About 99.9 percent sure it's just the fact that his son was exhibiting homosexual tendencies, a.k.a. just being a normal gay guy. His "illness" was referred to one of the spirit and that it had been passed to another person, who is also gay and reveals he's wanted him since they were children.
So you're not going to let us see how you teach him how guys feel good? Fucking selfish bastard (〜￣△￣)〜
Some of yall don't know how painful it is to have to cut ties with toxic people for your own overall health and stability. Especially when those toxic people are your family or long time friends. The raws definitely hinted that his parents were toxic as hell.
Hey hey hey... at this point we aren’t aware about how toxic his parents are because most of us don’t read the raws :( your comment is technically a spoiler...
Please let people make their observations on their own chapter by chapter and refrain from spoiling
Or you could just not read the comments? The raws have been out there for good hot minute before translated. That's like asking people not to talk about a movie when it's been out forever.
Plus, I like spoilers and I'll still read. If you don't like spoilers, sorry. You'll just have to learn to avoid the comment section. It's been full of them before I even said anything.
I don’t think so.. I thought they were hinting that they were toxic and I haven't read the raws
excuse me for butting in, but @catneki is right. he was also really nice and respectful about it.
so the least you couldve done was also treat him with respect by realizing/ agreeing that you are indeed at fault here and not blame others for also having done it. also, writing SPOILER in your title takes like what, 2 seconds of work?
additionally, just cause others post spoilers without warning or the fact that the raws are out there, doesnt change the fact what @catneki already tried to bring across and that is that ppl who come on this site, who didnt read the raws nor the other comments will be affected by your spoiler. (and just cause you like it doesnt mean others do, give them the chance to decide if they wanna read or not)
you couldve just have said, alright i agree, it was a dick move, i'll keep it in mind, or whatever and just be done with it.
btw this whole thing couldve been avoided if only you'd have written spoiler in the title. so pls dont be an ass about it next time someone calls you out.
In third world countries or poor countries. This isnt considered toxic. Its considered life.
You work for your family and your family work for you. Everyone works to survive even children.
It's sad and a hard life, but this is reality for some ppl.
My family grew up like this in Vietnam.
https://youtu.be/22cDgXj6K98
In poor parts of china some parents leave thier kids so they can make money and send it home. Its difficult for both parent and child.
I'm an immigrant in America, we're a family of 6 (dad is gone) living in a tiny apartment with 2 small rooms and everything else is combined into one room. we still struggle to get food on the table, I know exactly where he's coming from.. your family is bound to be toxic if you live in this type of environment
also what i said has literally nothing to do with being poor but wanting to leave, he left his parents and didn't feel bad, this obviously hints at toxicity
We got sponsored into American. We are a family of 15, including my parents. My family were fisherman and farmers. There were no fridge and microwave. Everything you made is what you eat that day. If you didnt work you didnt eat.
Both my parents had to stop going to school around 14 so they can work for family.
Yes. It can be hinted a toxic family, but there are also selfish ppl in the world. Who dont want to sacrifice for family and just wanna live for themselves and they have no problems with turning back on thier family.
Ive seen many different sad situation. My friend's grandpa. He is from Mexico. He came to American to work to the bone. Be was able to bring his family over. He bought 2 houses so they can live together. They grew up, he grew old and had a stroke and could no longer work. His kids abandoned him for money. They tossed aside didn't want to care for him and wanted to sell his house for money. My friend ended up having to care for him. They all grew up poor in Mexico, but got greedy.
My family, the older kids learned to work hard and help out the family to push the family out of providy. The younger kids forgot what it was like to be poor and they got lazy. Also in America they always push for individual happiness instead of working for the family.
we got sponsored too, we only decided to move to this apartment after the people dropped us, no idea why you're comparing struggles right now
Just saying. Right now all it shows is that he's poor And he has to work to pay for family bills and watch his siblings. you said. Because he left without feeling bad means the family was probably toxic.
As of right now. He just seem seems selfish. Maybe later it will show the parents are verbally and physically abusive. Idk the spoilers maybe it will be explained later.
But there are selfish people out there who have no problems with leaving thier family. Not because thier family is toxic but because they are just selfish.
Like i said in poor countries sometimes the kids have to drop out of school to work so that food can be on the table and there can be shelter. Its not toxic. Its toxic to leech off your family that is struggling then when you are doing better instead of contributing. You jet off for you own happiness.
Thank you !! :,)
I’m only saying because they said “IN THE RAWS it hinted heavily that they were toxic”! I would not have said anything if it was merely speculation on this chapter :,) but since it wasn’t speculation on this chapter then it was indeed a spoiler for most people who come here just to discuss the current chapter!
@catneki dw i got you! ;)
his parents seem pretty selfish, no? having so many kids in such a dire situation, dad wasting money on alcohol, etc.
s. korea is not a poor country. those in third world countries might have to live like that since there are no opportunities (like college, scholarships, etc). but as you can see the boy climbed up himself, found opportunities thru his own money. How is that toxic tho? he wasnt "leeching" off of them, they didnt pay for him for anything, he did it himself by working. In the end he gave them a bunch of money too and then went off. he didnt steal any money.
altho, i do think it was selfish (but still understandable) because he had siblings. But i dont think he was "leeching" off of anybody.
Having kids... That happens even poor ppl sometimes have a lot of kids and thats because of the lack Of contraception. Those things arent free.
Growing up how did he feed himself and a child? Hoe did he have shelter? How did he have clothes? Yes he worked later on but before that, none of that is free. His family could have just abandoned him or left him to die.
Also i think he was helping out with the bills not paying all of bills. So it wasnt like he was paying for everything he own including the house. Its more like everyone is pitching in to support the family.
Also beer... You act like the dad was gambling or buying something extravagant. Its not he was buying extra large 4k tv or luxury goods. Its just beer. You can get cheap beer.
Leeching off.. what i mean is the investment the parents spent on him while he was growing up Money and time. when the kids grow up they are supposed to help back. How many years did they take care of him vs how many years he started working and gave up on his family? Idk the working age in korea maybe 16? It wasnt like the mc was working since birth.
Anyway darkenthat said that the mc didnt feel guitly so the parents must be toxic. Thats a stupid argument because there are selfish ppl out there. Yeah maybe the parents are toxic in later chapters(qi_cake said so, but idk), but right now it just seems like the mc only cares about himself.
The only stupid thing is. If the parents were really toxic. I wish the author would just show it up front. Like did the parent abuse mc verbally and physically? Did they burn his books and made him work instead? Did they moleste the mc? I wish the author would just say the full sob story so we know the full story of mc, but maybe its like a suspense secret reveal????
there were like 5 kids... maybe they just should not have sex? but ofc i cant judge, but i do think they shouldve maybe just said "ok thats enough kids". and who says "everyone" is pitching in, its mostly just him... his siblings are too young, and at least one parent stays home with the kids. the MC was being burdened by having to working so hard and sacrificing his studying time to support a bunch of kids that werent his or anything. also, being an alcoholic is expensive, and if its to the point that the mc points it out its probably smth that is quite inconvenient but idk.
i feel like the parents were sorta ignoring him, and were too busy with his siblings to show him affection. they put so many responsibilities on him and used him as a source of income for the family- he's so young, i can understand why he grew cold to it. Maybe if the parents were grateful or showed that they loved him...?
yes they did raise him but thats why the mc gave them a lot of money when he left, and he practically spent his whole school life working and paying most of the bills- i think that measures up to what they did for him. when you have kids you expect them to take a lot of money, but you dont see parents going around asking for kids to pay them back. also dont bring in what other ppl said i never said i agree or disagreed with what qi_cake or darkenthat.
he said that he loved them, but was just tired of that life, which i get. I just think its a little judgmental to say he's leeching off or is a selfish person after o n e chapter. he rlly isnt as bad as ur making it out to be.
I only brought up qi_cake cuz supposedly the parents actually did something and can be considered toxic. I just dont know what it is. So they probably are toxic.
I forgot did the mc graduate from college or from highschool. I forgot. But college plus high school (in korea hs is supposedly 3yrs) should be only about 7yrs. (And he most likely worked beginning of highschool. The parents took care of him for 16yrs. Before he worked. Thats not the same time mc worked. Yes he had to do school work and possibly watch hia sibling, but thats like everyone else too. Its not really hard work.
Also did it say he paided most of the bills? And that one parent didnt work? Idk its been awhile and i read a lot of novels and webtoon. Cuz i find that hard to believe. Cuz a parent can work fulltime and a student can only work part time. How can he make more money? Also there are such things are day care. It is possIble for The parents to work in the morning and they all gather at night.
How much does a can of beer cost? How much can a person drink in a day? I really cant imagine it costing as much as a car or a house. I mean it doesnt look like hes drowning in beer and passing out all the time form drinking 100 cans a day.
Im terms of kids. Yeah they could of stop having sex, but yeah.. i dont think anyone would, but yeah i agree they probably shouldn't have kids, but then there would be no story and no mc, but the parent would probably have a better life. They could probably go out and do whatever they wanted. They would have less bills.
In terms of love. Did the mc say he wanted loved or was upset he didnt get love? From what i remember he mostly talked about how smart he was and how he had to work for the family and his dreams. But his dreams were disrupted by his family because they were poor and needed his help. So yeah in the end he put his own happiness first and cut ties because they were poor. (Well thats the conclusion for now. Until the great reveal of his true tragic past.)
Well it sucks to have a poor family, but it isnt forever. All the kids will grow up and they could have helped each other in life later on in times of need.
uhuh. Im just tryna say that the parents probably arent the most perfect flawless hardworking figures like ur making it out to be, and the mc isnt just a selfish rat taking advantage of that. he literally gets nosebleeds and has to work his ass off for a scholarship while doing a job while taking care of his family... thats pretty tough ok? not "everyone" does that. um if theyre that poor ofc they cant pay for daycare, where did you even get that. drinking a lot of beer adds up but ok, you seem pretty hellbent on defending the parents so whatever. good talk but its taking too long ╮(￣▽￣)╭, we'll just be finding more reasons for this and that.
Well to me it just doesn't make sense. That you think he's paying majority of the bills. How is he paying for the apt, school, uniform, and supporting 7 ppl?
I also find it odd that most likely he didnt work till he was 16. How did the parents support everyone before he started working? Then all of a sudden they stopped work? Then they no longer generated income?
How can pay majority of the bills? The kid does school full time and tutors and whatever. But he can support his whole family and pay majority of the bills plus have a large saving by doing part time jobs? He also has time to be tutored(but cant afford it even though he has a large saving and making bank). It just doesnt make sense how he's making more part time than is parents who can work full time and everyday.
Its not that i am hell bent on the parents, but i think theres some major plot holes.
because its been o n e chapter, what plot holes lmaooo T_T
chile, its not even what the webtoon is abt.
Lol like i said it just make sense.
Cutting ties don’t always mean that he doesn’t see them as family anymore. Maybe he just moved out and still sends them money. I hope he does bc his family did raised him and provide shelter and food for them. But I also understand the mental stress he was put under. And each person act upon their own needs and wants. The MC doesn’t want to live that suffocating life anymore so it makes sense for him want to get away but it’s not okay for him to drop them completely. It’s just like a countryside kid moving to Tokyo bc he’s sick of his hometown and want to explore and have more opportunities. We should at least applaud the MC for being able to do what he did. He hold himself accountable for his studying, studied super hard, and then his grades was falling due to work and stress, the fate of passing the entrance exam determines what college he can get into and what kind of job he’ll be able to work. His future depends on it. So I think it was okay for him to be a lil selfish in trying to work hard for himself and used his money. Bc if he didn’t and let everything go, he would’ve been stuck in his house only working part time jobs. He didn’t demand anything from his parent or accused them for not helping.
Also some of y’all need to chill and stop comparing lives and who’s household is worse or better off. No one gets to choose what kind of household you get born into but you can choose the paths you want to take and what kind of lives you want to live. If the MC had completely cut his family off and doesn’t send them money, I agree that’s too far and selfish. But his parents are also toxic for the MC and on his mental health . Maybe they didn’t abuse him but seeing them just reminds the MC of their struggling household and the obstacles he had to endure and it puts a lot of stress on people. Just like if someone made you uncomfortable in school and even if they stop bothering you, every time you see them you’ll still be reminded of it. And that’s why the MC needs to leave so he knows that his family is not what he’s limited to. The MC never blamed his parents for anything or demand anything out of them. He didn’t cross the line and he gave them his savings he saved up to help with the household. If he was TOXIC he could’ve dipped and didn’t leave them anything. The connection between them was already cut off when the parents were too busy and tired to care for him as a parents and a young child being put under stress for years
It seems there’s people rooting for him to “stay overweight” without even taking into consideration his weight gain reason. He comfort ate himself into that weight and it wasn’t healthy. Losing weight was literally his own decision. It’s not like the guy was like “I’ll fuck you if you get skinny”. Damn y’all non-reading asses
Y’all really have no faith in my dude (〜￣△￣)〜
He is NOT going to cheat. Not even a question, the fuck
I didnt want to unlike so sorry!
Its all good xD
Waiting for 19 Days to show up under Other Mangas by the same author xD