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Can u give ma the link to the raws pls?

https://newtoki89.com/webtoon/8108165/%EB%82%98%EB%A5%BC-%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%ED%95%98%EC%A7%80-%EC%95%8A%EC%95%84%EB%8F%84

That’s what I’m thinking like how do y’all not like him he’s caring and saved sooin...

Rightttt and he does ask wat sooin wants to do all the time

It is worth it, atleast for me

Im very picky hehe and i absolutely enjoyed this (the revenge/make her husband emperor plan makes so much sense and gets you engaged in what happens next)

I like it! It has some sweet spots and some cool spots. The fl isn’t a damsel, but she isn’t cold-shoulder kinda fl either. She’s smart and it’s good stuff. The guy seems respectful and cares for her in a good way. Nothing is prefect, but I think you should give it a read. If you don’t like it, then it’s easy to just stop. But it’s better to read more than one or two chapters. :)

omg read it! it might be intimidating as it involves a lot of politics in their world, but its still vv enjoyable. and the art is stunning too! its one of my favs now and its rly underrated in my opinion bejsbakf

im just really hoping for no more rapes tbh

maybe he'll break down in tears and tell nakyum to leave him for good

Me too hopefully we don’t or we gonna beef

That would be really interesting to see him cry

Nakyum has nowhere to go if he leaves so he will basically starve and die out of cold if he leaves seungho. As for seungho yall always have expectstions of him and his character yet you cannot see that he is NOT OK since he was caught having sex with a boy? He has been taking medication for being a homo and that disturbs his mind and clear consciousness as well. Only if he stops opium,that medication and being by nakyums side will he get better. And for a dude who put his whole trust in another man who thinks he escaped from him,yall sure,once again have high expectations and untealistic thoughts. Like do yall expect seungho to hug him and get over with it???he literally asked nakyum why did he leave him and he got silence.

Nah that's not an excuse to treat another human being so horribly. Thats a REASON sure but never an excuse. You can argue that ppl with mental problems or on drugs cannot control themselves or can't think rationally and yeah that's true BUT that does not mean they should be entitled to hurting others and fall back onto their issues as an excuse.

EXACTLY. This. This x 1000000.

Αre you aware of what era does this manhwa takes???also are you aware how the kisaeng were treated in korea???you talk about valuing ones feelings when in fact there was none of it on that era ESPECIALLY on women of lower and middle class. The author is not like your typical yaoi one,she really puts detail on tradition,class differences and trauma. If you want a human to be treated kindly THIS IS NOT THE MANHWA. Seungho killed a dude for "mistaking" nakyum and you still here talkig about treating others nice???as i said you are in the wrong manhwa. There is plenty of fluff and rainbow content in thousands of yaoi out there yet you choose to whine on one of the most ANGSTY yaoi. The author made it clear with seungho that we deal with a very DISTURBED person. There is no psychiatrists to help him nor tell him that being homo is good and he doesnt have to be obsessed with opium and medication to get over the trauma. Nor is there someone there to tell him to treat a KISAENG NICELY when in that era KISAENGS were treated as GARBAGE.

Also pretty sure from the very FIRST chapter you should have been warned that you wont deal with a fluffy "treat your uke nice" manhwa. Im just always so confused over yalls expectations and whinings like wtf?THIS TAKES PLACE IN 16th CENTURY WHERE WOMEN AND SLAVES WERE TREATED THE SAME.

Yeah see this is what you're forgetting: The author is writing a completely fictional BL story inspired by an ancient Korean setting. She can have all the strong and historically accurate foundations for the ancient culture, society, laws and rules of Korea but despite her respecting and following true to this, she has the power to create something different regardless of the times because this is an original and fictional piece. In her power she can create characters that may defy their times, characters that break away from societal norms, characters that feel opposed to the laws etc because she can as a writer. This is the reason why I am even giving Seungho a chance, solely because of the era he is from. But that does not mean raping someone is still acceptable. That does not mean hurting someone is acceptable. By your logic, I can pick up a history book and read that instead but no this story is a work of fiction therefore we will be seeing how these two live in a time like this but that doesn't mean we should accept that. I believe we're all giving Seungho a chance due to these times because I know damn well if this was based in a modern setting we'd be out for Seungho's blood. It's quite obvious Seungho will come to love and cherish Nakyum therefore why even drag out his suffering like this, instead work on building character development (especially for someone in this century) and building a romance between them. Have the world against them and their love instead of having them against each other. You are still very much excusing his actions which is not ok because even though these ppl in the novel might think it is normal we (readers) know it is morally wrong.

Also I find rape the lowest of lows. In all eras. Murder its circumstantial.. there may be reasons depending on the situation. Rape... never a reason, time period or not. Rape is worse because the victim will live with that forever and their trauma may never be healed. Murder they're put out of their misery quick and clean (unless it's torture). Also most noble people had the power to execute, murder for treason etc and was known to do it. Rape was morally wrong even then but people wouldn't speak out due to lack of power and influence. You talk about Seungho murdering should have made us realise to extent of this book but no it didn't because I dont find murder as degrading, belittling, traumatic or violating as the rape did.

i said maybe, because seeing the state that hes in its a possibility(he just got rejected in the most hurtful way possible and as u said before he uses drugs+we have his personality traits that are not that desirable), but i never said they would make up??? i literally said he would cry and tell nakyum to leave him (as in gtfo i dont wanna see u), how did u understand that i have high expectations of him from that? Its gonna be a long way until we get an ending (im not saying happy ending because it may not happen) and there will probably be a lot of drama, so all we can do now is speculate, but please dont act up in the comments like this

yeah, but no like a deafeated cry, im talking about angry crying and throwing stuff around (hopefully not nakyum lol)

I see where you are coming from. Raping has no excuse but all im saying is that the author takes notice on the fact that in that era class and status was everything. If you were on the lowest of the low you would be treated as such. Seungho is no exception to how nobles were treating their staff and lower class people,like when he beat the crap out of his servants when nakyum went off with teacher inhun. There is no one to judge or sentence you on that era for doing such things,nor tell you that it is bad...!even in the 20th century,rape was never taken into a serious account. Hell,even in my country it still is difficult for the victim to find justice and punish the offender if the other person has a lot of money or status. Im saying that rape was not a big deal on that era if the victim was on the low class. I aint justifying seungho but im interesting extemely on his character and his development and unravelling so far,way more than nakyum. I also hope in the future that seungho will treat nakyum as an equal rather than constantly reminding him why he keeps him. He loves him but does not know how to open up

Look we are taking up somebody's comment section fighting over this. I understand you are taking into account the cultural differences of their (stories setting) time. I get that, I was just more saying although those are reasons for him and we can't blame someone who was conditioned and raised that way because they dont know any better, we can still point out the wrongs of what he is doing. Nakyum can still feel hurt and upset even if he has no power to fight back. At the end of the day these are all reasons for Seungho's actions but they cannot be excused. Obviously I am still reading this so I hoping for major Seungho development, which means I am still rooting for him. That doesn't mean I can accept what he has done. At this point we should just agree to disagree and leave this comment section tbh. It was a nice discussion but should end here.

Nahhhhhhh babes don’t be shyyyyyy this tea is piping hot, don’t mind me and continue

OMG STOP SKSKSHJAHSQUHSUH

Yo literally everything you said is facts. I agree with every single word thank you

Well I'm glad some of you agree with me I was a little worried that many people weren't accepting Seungho's actions as wrong. Even though all of us are still rooting for him and some character development its still good to recognise the wrongs he's done

Yep exactly! We can root for his development without condoning the shitty things he has done

Toma best boy, I hope he doesn't die