Ok, but what's really sad is Hyesung finally moved on and was at peace and now he's going to have to relive his trauma and share some of his most horrible and vulnerable moments of his life with his son (which would completely shake the family dynamic because Dojin is not a good guy in those moments). Or choose to suffer in silence and begrudgingly forgive his mom. Either way, he won't truely be at peace again. Going forward, Byul's view of Dojin or Hyesung is going to change and it's either Dojin's or Hyesung's character and pride that's going to be sacrificed.
I'm also confused how the story is going to continue though. Because setting Byul's relationship with his parents aside, Siwoo is also no contact with his parents. Siwoo's situation mirrors Hyesung's. So is Byul going to show empathy towards Siwoo and be hypocritical or is he going to copy his father and force Siwoo to reconnect with his parents like Dojin is doing with Hyesung? I was hoping Byul would learn from Hyesung's situation and apply it to Siwoo's going forward but now I don't know what to expect.
Honestly, I blame Dojin. He's the reason this whole thing happened (he literally r*ped and baby trapped Hyesung). He let's his best friend, fans, and others constantly talk sh*t and villainize Hyesung. He's the one who has been secretly contacting and financing the grandmother this entire time. He's the one that introduced Byul to her and let Byul hear the 'grandmothers side of the story' BEFORE hyesung's. He didn't step in when Byul said this cr*p. Byul wouldn't have this distorted view of Hyesung, if Dojin didn't let people constantly villainize and disrespect Hyesung. He clearly agrees and resents Hyesung for not letting himself be baby trapped and running away. Because who would let people talk to and about his spouse like that? unless they hated them. A good father and husband wouldn't have left any room for misconceptions to occur and if they did would have cleared them up immediately.
This just makes me dislike dojin even more
Never like him god, he's just a classic pos
Dojin has always been that GUY. straight up garbage. I only read for Hyesung in the original run of the plot. Dojin gets away with a lot for most readers simply because he’s the seme, he’s drawn to be the more traditionally masculine type with all the privileges that come with it, and plain and simple Hyesung is the female projected standin character so he’s subject to your run of mill misogyny.
FR, also let's not forget how people both in the manhwas and reality blamed HYESUNG for his reactions, like he wasn't abused, neglected and abandoned as a child, wasn't graped and forced to have his grapists child, as if the one of the main reason they're together wasn't because they imprinted and he will die if he didn't get close
Byul was conceived when hyeseung snuck into dojins room and hopped on him and did u forget when hyeseung said he would give birth for money ? Dojin wanted the baby yes but it was always hyeseungs decision
Yeah when he was experiencing his heat after recently turning into an omega, he wasn't in his right mind unlike dojin who was sober, and HYESUNG agreed to give birth cus dojin wanted that child, and let's be honest do you really think he could get an abortion with dojin interfering? No, so he just became a surrogate (sorta)
Hyeseung didnt evn try he wanted money outta dojin heesoo offered him money to get an abortion and he was like no i want money more
I think you need to go back and reread the first manhwa
No i think u need to do that cause how r u forgetting key details
I didn't, that's the thing, i don't read shit with rose tinted glass for good-looking rapists (dojin) and defend them everywhere, hyesung was infact manipulated and coerced into giving birth
Your glasses prescription must be off cause he never raped him and he never forced him to give birth. Like i said you fr dont remember what happened thats crazy
Did we read the same thing, Tf you mean he didn't rape him and coerced and manipulate him to give birth
Bruther byul was NOT a product of rape. Later in the story when hyeseung was gonna leave thats a different story. When hyeseung found out he was pregnant dojin expressed he wanted him to keep the baby but at the end of the day it was hyeseungs choice. He decides to carry the baby and get money instead. Heesoo even offered to take him to the damn clinic he wanted the money more
I need some writers to head to AO3 and make me some fan fiction of Hyesung's crash out and divorce era because this author clearly hates him and is only happy if he settles and continues to be disrespected. </3
So he can have empathy for his grandmother but he can't have empathy for Hyesung who centered his entire life around raising Byul?
He can, that's why he's crying
They clearly only have him crying as crappy plot development to move the relationship in the story forward. He wouldn't have been secretly meeting the grandmother if he really felt guilt and empathy for what Hyesung went through. He's crying because he feels bad for himself
It would be long, but I do feel the shame. I don’t really enjoy how they’re twisting such a sensitive subject just for plot development.
As for Byul… it’s complicated. We, the readers, have a completely different point of view. We know about Hyesung’s past. We know what he’s been through — the assault, the rape, his struggles. We also know the deep impact of being abandoned by his mother. We know everything about Hyesung.
But Byul doesn’t. He thinks he does, but he really doesn’t know better. He barely knows the general outline; the rest are just assumptions based on what he’s observed. Like how he observed how loving and talented Hyesung is, and assumed Hyesung has always been like this.
Another thing to remember is that Byul is still a child — just a teenager. He makes mistakes. And we know he didn’t mean what he said to Hyesung.
What I also want to add is that Byul is an empathetic person — maybe too empathetic. And unfortunately, in this case, his empathy is directed more toward his grandmother than his mother. Why? Because the grandmother told her version of the truth — the version that benefits her. Meanwhile, Hyesung stays silent. He doesn’t talk about what really happened, and he has everything to do so. So we’re left in this uncomfortable space where the grandmother was a victim but had the time to heal, but she still hurt Hyesung deeply — and continues to.
And now we have Byul, who thinks he knows what happened — but he doesn’t. A Byul who stays in contact with the grandmother and excuses it, partly because his own father does the same. A Byul who ends up minimizing what Hyesung went through, because he believes he already knows all he needs to know.
I'm happy the author included the past incident with the MC and acknowledged that it was super traumatic and scary. Stuff like that occurs too often in sports, and is often dismissed too easily and brushed to the side (even if nothing in particular happened, them discussing harming the MC so causally was horrifying). Particularly in hockey, hazing, hurting skilled players and r*pe culture are often encouraged and ignored. So, it's nice to see an author shed light on these issues and write about them seriously.
chapter 1-4: night of banquet (+1)
chapters 5-10: the next day (+1)
end of 10: couple days later (this could be anywhere between 3 to 7 days)
chapters 11-first half of 15: next day (+1)
2nd half of 15-18: next day (+1)
2nd half of 18-24 :next day (+1)
Total: minimum 8 - 12 days have passed
Let my MC breathe guys, dudes worried about paying rent and tuition and his whole world got flipped on its side, it's impressive how well he is handling this in such a short timeframe.
I feel like a lot of readers are negating the emotional turmoil the MC is dealing with currently.
-He's in debt
-about to get kicked out of school because he can't afford it
-just became an omega after spending most his life as an alpha (omegas are also treated as 2nd class citizens)
-told he has a fated mate with someone he doesn't want
-ran into the family that destroyed his family
-ran into his first love
-found out his first love liked him in the past
-said first love THEN called him a wh*re
-and was almost r*ped.
All in the span of less than 2 weeks. Y'all worried about him returning white hair's feelings and he's probably worried about rent. Let the man settle in dude.
Also this is a reminder, they are all adults, no one is in a relationship and no one has even invited the MC on a first date yet -.- How are you guys going to hate on the MC when these 2 haven't even done the bare minimum in courtship? White hair is so busy projecting the IDEA of a relationship with the MC, that he isn't even trying to establish a relationship with the MC (you can't speed run a relationship and jump to forever partners without even establishing an emotional connection yet dude, childhood friends isn't enough, y'all strangers now). The MC also did the mature thing and recognized that his feelings for white hair weren't real and only due to them being fated mates. He then proceeded to give him a firm rejection with no leeway to misunderstand all within 2 weeks.
As stupid as it is, the story is realistic. Men will really blame their wife and kids for things out of their control or will put them in dangerous or potentially harmful situations and then refuse to take any responsibility for their part in the incident.
TBH this is probably one of the few times I don't have an issue with the author claiming a character is 100% straight and that's because of sports and specifically hockey culture.
While most people would acknowledge 2 men messing around with each other is at the very least on the gay spectrum, it's actually crazy common for men specifically hockey players to mess around with each other and it's because of p*rn. A lot of these guys are p*rn addicts or grow up in a predatory sports environment where they essentially remove all emotions from sex and see it as something completely physical and something done to someone else. This is why you hear about 'straight' men participating in threesomes, orgies, g*ng bangs, etc and claim they are straight because there was someone else in the middle (they often view sex as them doing it to someone else and with unequal power dynamics). Also because there's the myth that 'true sex' only happens when there's insertion, a lot of men will 'help' their buddy out via hand jobs and think nothing of it (heck we even see the myth that as long as you aren't 'taking,' you aren't truly gay). It really falls down to a variety of issues some being the lack of or cr*ppy sex education, p*rn addiction, the predatory environment often found in men's sports, r*pe culture, homophobia, etc. But knowing the MC grew up in a hockey environment and knowing hockey dudes personally, it's actually not surprising to see him view himself as straight despite messing around with men.
Exactly, tbh i myself was in a basketball team and I'm bisexual but guys tend to be curious... I used to hold a grudge against dudes who do that lol but when u realise it, it's teens exploring shit. Porn addicts.
The amount of guys I knew who did stuff with their teammates and then blamed it on getting high or drunk -.- Like babes this has become a weekly thing. But at the same time homophobia is super rampant within sports (especially hockey) so I can understand why a lot of these guys are in denial especially since some of them freak out over wearing rainbow jersey for one night.
Also, I feel like people forget as you said exploring sexuality is a thing. You can participate in a gay act without being gay (as weird as it sounds). Like Tom Hardy has talked about messing around with a guy out of curiosity and then realizing he's not gay because of it. Also, there's sex workers who sleep with the same sex despite not having attraction to them. Several people who are in the closet, sleep with the opposite sex without being attracted to them, etc. Sexuality is pretty fluid and a wide spectrum. And so far the author has been respectful so I don't mind them adding this aspect to the MC
Thank you for saying all this! I personally know someone who thought they were straight their whole life until they met their soulmate of the same gender. They are still together to this day and they don't even think too much about what their sexuality is because sexuality is fluid and the only thing they're certain is they're so in love with their partner
While awareness and representation are important, I feel like sometimes the gay community becomes too preoccupied with labels and neglect that fact that sexuality is fluid and a spectrum (a good example is the bi vs pan debate within the queer community and no one deciding on a definition). It's important to prevent erasure as many of the comments have stated but if you then turn around and erase someone else's experience or journey you are only hurting the movement. A lot of people meet their soulmates or people they are attracted to at different stages in their lives, that go against their pre established beliefs about themselves. I think we as a community need to focus on making sure there's a safe space for these people to explore and experiment that's judgment free. There's no one way to be gay, no one way to be queer, and no one way to be bi. Sexuality and gender are a spectrum (that can change at any time) and while it's important to push back against conservative and radical straight movements, it's also important not to force your peers in a box also.
Exactly, I think there's a lot of people in the queer community that experienced similar things. And the countries where they come from also play an important part. Figuring out about out sexuality differs from everyone, and sometimes one could take a lifetime. What matters is to respect each other, and just as you said, not to force a label on other people