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no he needs worse i dont condone rape but wat he put tht girl thru he needs to go thru jus saying ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Right but the girl was no better but def

true (￣∇￣")

Who likes pain? When was that said? Chan-il is the one causing drama, did he have to break something to talk? Cirrus doesn’t want to talk, leave him be until he wants to. But I do hope they both talk soon. I know Chan-il is a nice guy but right now he’s not helping the situation. His girlfriend told him: I’ll tell you later.

But he still went to Cirrus and confronted him.

Cirrus just passed him after telling him what he needed to say. He didn’t touch Chan-il or anything.

Oops I forgot to say. And I don’t think Chan-il knows that Ri-in is super close to Cirrus. But he still shouldn’t have overreacted by destroying something. I can’t wait for this to be over!

he purposely make chan il misunderstanding instead of explaining things, he did tell the truth but manipulate it. He making look like he and the girl do have something

Chan il didnt know because cirrus have trust issue (which he keep whatever bad happen to him secret). It logical for chan il to get irritated like that because in his perspective his best friend is flirting with his girlfriend

He didn’t purposely make Chan il misunderstand. Chan is the one that accused or thought of them having something. He should’ve just asked his girlfriend, but he went to Cirrus and overreacted. And his girlfriend also told him: I’ll tell you everything later.

He didn’t manipulate. He doesn’t have to tell Chan-il if he isn’t comfortable, you can see he doesn’t even tell others what he’s going through as much. Chain’s girlfriend is Cirrus’s childhood friend.

It’s Chan’s fault if he’s insecure. He can just ask his girlfriend. ITS NOT CIRRUS’S FAULT FOR SOMEONE ELSE’s INSECURITY.

And I’m pretty sure Chan is not even mad about that. It was just the last straw for him. Chan is just fed up with Cirrus avoiding him.

No, Chan knows Cirrus is Ri-in’s friend. Who was the one that introduced Ri-in to Chan? Cirrus.

Well Chan shouldn’t be so hard on Cirrus and ask calmly, he did not have to break something to talk. So dramatic. Chan is good guy but not a good friend right now, he’s disappointed.

People who are insecure need help. Chan can just go to his girlfriend and ask her.

when i said he likes pain, what i mean is like he purposely self sabotage himself and make him in that situation. (not blaming him for everything else that happen to him that he cant control). By self sabotage, he's too insecure, quick to assume, give silent treatment (he ignore chan il), trust issue, abandoned issue, manipulative , mirroring personality.

Quick to assume? Assumed what in the recent chapters? All he did was talk to his closest friend and was comforted. HE is not obligated to tell Chan-il, and Chan should stop bothering him, that’s why he’s just mad cause Cirrus is avoiding him.

I do hope they talk but only when Cirrus is ready. This is HIS personal issue, not Chan-il’s.
Chan il Is NOT ENTITLED to know.

In a relationship, communication is not always the key. Usually people afraid to face the worst (the truth, guilt tripping etc)

Probably thats why chan il immediately ask cirrus (also the fact bcs they are friend).

but nevermind, sound like you know what will happened. my only source to read this manhwa is by using this website

And yeah, I know. Cirrus was manipulative in the past but right now he’s simply asking for comfort and that’s what he got. And then Chan-il’s girlfriend told him that she will tell him later.

Cirrus is like this because he is a victim of abuse. He ignores Chan cause he’s insecure, and so is Chan.
Skylar told Cirrus that he likes Chan-il and that Cirrus is a second option, obviously he would avoid Chan-il because of how heartbroken Cirrus is.

Communication is ALWAYS the key, my friend. Communication is what guides the relationship, trust!

I think some people forget that Cirrus is severely abused by his family. He only had candy in the past. He was jealous of Chan-il who stopped focusing on him and went to Skylar. And now Skylar tells Cirrus that he’s a second choice, wouldn’t you be sad?

I understand but Chan-il shouldn’t have taken his anger out on Cirrus. Clearly he overheard that Cirrus was crying from Ri-in’s phone. :/

not in recent chapter, he did throw juice box direct to skylar head because skylar look happier talking with chan il.

ofc it look logical why it happen from reader perspective because we can see cirrus emotion. but it doesnt change the fact he's assuming thing and make his relationship go rock down. (kinda)

He’s really insecure. I agree with you. Yeah the juice box part, I’ve talked about that before with others and it really bothered me. Cirrus is reaching a point.

Cirrus did assume but let’s not forget Skylar also made it worse by beating him until he bled and also told him hurtful words that made Cirrus confirm his views that Skylar still likes Chan: “I only dated you because I can’t have Chan-il”, “You’re second choice.” And other words he said I forgot.

They still haven’t talked about that. If only Skylar and Cirrus talked it out more, then Cirrus wouldn’t be so angry with Chan-il and avoid him more.

So Cirrus isn’t just assuming, he thinks it’s true because of what Skylar said. It’s both of their fault for misunderstandings.

And now Chan-il and Ri-in are roped in this.

cirrus perspective point out that chan il is indeed not perfect, he can get angry too.

What cirrus supposed to say is something like "its not what you think, me and her doesnt have relationship like that. You should ask her yourself"

By this is he keep his secret and avoiding misunderstanding.

Chan il do entitle to know that nothing romantic happened between them.

Yeah, because chan il assume thing before its happening.

The event of skylar said that is because he irritated that he suddenly got that trash treatment out of nowhere.

I also want to highlight skylar trauma in this point, he is not typical weak boyfriend. He is a highschool boy with high anger issue. He get bullied for being gay by his own ex bsf in the past. Also, develop several mental illness to the point of being suicidal.

Skylar is not the type of guy to take it and tremble like scared puppy, he face it and fight it back. Which got even worse after the trauma.

Cirrus did assuming, it just become "true" because skylar negative respond.

What a person said in a anger is usually something they didnt mean. Especially when we know that they both are dating even though in private, they do treasure each other a lot.

well it was a famous phrase and it was true for most occasions.

However, its only the case if both person willing to talk it out. Which i believe chan il and rin in can solve.

Most people is scared by things than doesnt happened yet. What if it turning worse? (ego, not wanting to admit fault, trying to change the topic, manipulate them into thinking they're the bad one). I say this as a situation that might happen in a mindset. This could what chan il think

No, Chan-il isn’t entitled to know everything is what I’m saying, I’m sure Chan is wondering about that too.
He can ask his girlfriend, like you said.

He could have said that, I agree.

Ngl the anxiety mindset is out of topic, i know chan il didn't think like that to rin in.

“ The event of skylar said that is because he irritated that he suddenly got that trash treatment out of nowhere.” But Cirrus doesn’t know that he said it just because he’s irritated, that’s why even now he still thinks Skylar likes Chan.

I’m aware of Skylar’s trauma. But Cirrus doesn’t know because he doesn’t open up. And he doesn’t have to, but how long can Cirrus wait?

Cirrus didn’t assume anymore the moment Skylar said “it’s true, I like Chan-il more.” He said it himself, ITS TRUE. How is someone supposed to mind read him and know that what he’s saying is just out of anger?

Cirrus took that answer to heart. Skylar shouldn’t have said that. Especially after Skylar had asked Cirrus out, I would be heartbroken if my partner told me that after asking me out.

Cirrus can’t mind read. He won’t know that Skylar said that out of anger unless Skylar clears it up.

A lot of people say Cirrus should trust others but it ain’t easy. He has tried to trust so many before as a child and one attempted to rape him (teacher), and the others cast him aside and treated him horribly.

What do you mean?

Also hey, thanks for discussing this with me. It feels nice to tell each other our side and our perspective. I know what you mean when you say that even Chan can be angry. He can and that’s a human being.

what im trying to say is cirrus can avoid misunderstand. thats all.

I didnt mean cirrus should cry and tell everything he been through to chan il to explain things.

However since next chapter would be better since chan il get a grasp what happen, it should be fine. (i assume from the spoiler)

I know. I said I agree with what you said. Haha.
I think we’re both confused lol. Don’t worry all good.

And I made a post here if you wanna check and we can talk there too if you want.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/16471178/

that one from my comment of communication is the key, sorry it does sound of topic since i didnt replied to that spesific comment

No worries I got confused, that’s all

it happened because cirrus assume and make the first move of being aggressive.

thats why it become a truth for him since skylar is super pissed off and blurt whatever nonsense to make ciruss tick off.

skylar is in fact not a calm person, he's a wild asf.

It being true or not doesnt matter to skylar, his prioty is pissing off cirrus at the moment.

honestly 2 whole comments page only with two of us probably a bit too much for other readers.

I do like your offer to discuss more but nah im too lazy, the manhwa not even end yet. It wouldn't be a story if there's no angst, the point of this manhwa is the dark side of life. I do get your point that it's totally not cirrus fault, chan il not entitled to know everything and skylar is at fault for lashing out.

Its understable how they react the way the are, no one is villain here. Im just sad to see the plot going this way because im rooting for everyone happiness

I understand. I get lazy too sometimes, I’m a bit tired right now anyways since I argued yesterday 4 pages or 4.5 you could say

arguement is indeed draining

wait what spoiler

HRAensn did say rin in explain in next chap

ohhh wait how did they know that lol freshtoki hasnt updated that far yet

It’s in the chapter where Ri-in got up from the table and went to citrus to comfort him cause he was crying and other stuff. She told Chan: I’ll tell you everything later.