This is possibly the best manga out here, the art and the characters are so great! And their relationships are always giving me a twist. It should be rated 10/10
100% agreed
One of*
It pretty much depends on your mood.
But other GREAT mangas/manwha’s Killing Stalking & Blood Bank. They’ve hella good and interesting stories like Wolf in the house.
I don't remember if I read Killing Stalking, so I can't really vouch for it.
But I've read Blood Bank and I think it was its only saving point was the art. In terms of plot development, characters depth & interactions, and story pacing, I dispute the claim that it can compete with Wolf in the House.
It may be interesting, if we're talking preferences (in this case, to each their own), but I personally didn't think it was interesting at all.
I can only think of few works of Yamada Yugi that can compete, tbh.
To each their own, I agree. And for me, I'll still include Blood Bank in my top10 greatest yaoi (atm since I'm reading new titles every now and then). I find the plot and characters interesting. It has a different appeal from Wolf is in the House, but both are really good. I think a major let down for Blood Bank is its rushed ending.
I thought it was too predictable, and some of the conflicts were entirely avoidable. I also didn't like the characters. But I see what you're talking about when you say they have different appeals.
I really like that Wolf in the House doesn't fall for old cliches. I expected Diesel to become Minsuk's rival for Bexan's love, and for Pablo to become Ein's rival for Diesel, because that's the old yaoi cliche that new characters are there to steer jealousy. But they turned out to become good friends and allies, and I'm loving it. The conflicts moving the plot forward are not threats to make them doubt their love or to break the couple up (which is a huge criticism I make to Hidoku Shinaide).
I'd include What Lies At The End, Nemuri Otoko to Koi Otoko, Close the last door, BJ Alex and Strawberry Combat among my top 10.
Ah, definitely good series you included.
There’s a bunch of awesome series (if you only count yaoi/shounen ai)!
The ones I write are absolutely just a few (& those who pop up on instinct)
Everything you said in the first two sentences apply to BJ Alex, the plot is very predictable (although the concept is interesting at first) and the characters have no depth to them. I'm not writing this to attack you really, but I don't get how you could say those about Blood Bank -which I also think doesn't deserve being compared to a masterpiece like Woolf in the House- and put BJ Alex in your top 10
I agree with you and in fact I mentioned BJ Alex can be accused of being predictable and the conflicts are entirely of their own making (tho I deleted this part in the end for the sake of relevance).
The thing with BJ Alex is that it's... satisfying (I can't find the right word in English, sorry).
The author gave us a plot that had everyone have very strong feelings about the situation (the comments section of that story is crazy). I think that's a plus over BB.
Even tho the outcome was very predictable, it was also very much desired by the readers, so it was satisfying to read. I believe it can be forgiven for being so predictable when they are giving us exactly what we wanted and raged about on the comments about for over 40 chapters.
And part of this was the characters' development. DG had a noticeable character growth and Jiwon's backstory explains a lot.
I don't agree with anything you just said but to each their own I guess
I suppose so, to each their own.
(Which is why this whole thread amuses me - people feel the need to come here to dispute my preference for Wolf in the House and BJ Alex and praise Blood Bank just to end up saying 'to each their own').
umm no my intention wasn't to defend Blood Bank at all, and the reason everybody ends up saying that is that it's a peaceful way to end the talk before it turns into an unnecessary and immature argument; it doesn't mean we suddenly to agree with you
The author is great, I prefer Momentum, but Diesel and Ein's characters & story in this one are great. It's rare to read yaoi that doesn't just rely on the lazy unrealistic cliches like you pointed out, and has a diverse range of characters without stereotyping. There aren't any awful "ukes" and "semes" stereotyping for one. The pacing, dialogue, plot all come off as a bit more "mature" from this author. At first I was put off by the supernatural theme, but gave it a go on the back of just how good Momentum was, and it did not disappoint, the right balance of comedy without coming off as childish.
That's not what I meant at all. We all in the end agree that to each their own, so why bother coming to tell me you disagree with me about my preferences in the first place, y'know? That's pretty immature to begin with.
I haven't read Momentum yet, but I'm in love with this author. I hope to read in the future.
You said everything I like about this story, the lack of cliche and stereotypes, and the humor is really good. It is, indeed, not childish.
I was put off by the cover tbh, specially considering that Make Me Bark was all the rage when I started reading this, so I thought it would be something similar. I'm really happy I gave this a chance.
I was counting only yaoi in my list, indeed. I mostly read romantic relationships in yaoi due to the troublesome portrayal of girls in manga (tho it's been a while since I've tried, so I might be missing out on great things). But if I were to include other genres, I'd say only this yaoi would make my top 10.
Just checked and haven't tried killing stalking yet, I'll give it a try!
Ah, the portrayal of girls are quite bad no matter genre & that’s why I can’t think of any girl character I like - at all lol
And Killing Stalking must be my favorite, Koogi (the author) really knows how to get readers curious, anxious, trick them etc etc + She has a clown chapter or two in it so I pretty much skipped it to 100% :)) (lol)
I just wondered if you could point out to me a side of it that I haven't considered before, that made you love the manhwa; so that I could understand why you would put it in your top 10. But you couldn't so that was that and I tried to end the conversation.
I in fact listed many facts why I personally put it in my top 10 yaoi. You disagreed, because you don't think so. It's your preference, it's not right nor wrong.
Which brings me to my point in the first place: why did you feel the need to come to smo's comment to question their preferences to begin with, if in the end they are particular to each person?
Nothing against a good discussion about manga, ofc. But I don't have to convince you that this or that manga deserves to be in my top 10. People don't have to defend their right to like or dislike something for it to be valid.
I admit the cover put me off bc I thought it was a dj for attack on Titan.
I like many girls in manga when they are not romance. I'm particularly fond of Vitamin, it's kind of a Shoujo, but it calls bs on many toxicity girls are subjected to. I love that author tbh. Hope is also a great one.
Oh, might check them out.
I already answered your question: I thought you might point out something that I hadn't considered before. You're not obligated to defend your right to like something, I never said you were, and my aim wasn't to attack your preferences as I said in the first place.
The face of a smarmy asshole. Ugh. I want to cut Weeman's face, he's so grating with that fake angel face!
Jiwon's parents aren't any better, way to be a N parent. That's emotional abuse.
His brother however seems to be a nice guy, just clueless about his brother.
I hope Jiwon can get over them and be genuinely indifferent to such awful people.
I'm not sure which side to take. Both Hakdo and the Hyung are... Well, undeserving of Sangho.
I'm afraid tho, that the Hyung is gonna try to seduce Hakdo out of revenge.
I can't agree more with this statement. In my opinion it's which is the lesser of two evils. Imo, that just happens to be Sangho's hyung.
After this chapter, I'm not so sure. Tbh, I guess it's nice Sangho doesn't seem to be too invested in Hakdo by this point, but his reactions to Hyung are clearly worrying.
I guess Sangho is a nice guy and will eventually find someone who deserves him, or at least Hakdo will take his head out of his friend's ass.
Interesting. Since this chapter is what clinched the ex being the lesser of two evils for me.
I'm curious now, why do you think so? I got the impression Hyung had a worse personality than what we thought from this chapter.
But then again Hakdo is still the same little shit, so...
Remember, I'm just saying he's the lesser of two evils. And that I'm not saying that the hyung is absolutely wonderful. This last chapter confirmed that he was wanting Sangho's attention specifically. While Hakdo, as I said in another post, just finds Sangho a convenient outlet for when he needs to release his frustrations, it doesn't even HAVE to be Sangho. Nor does Hakdo show any signs of caring for Sangho. Plus he assaults him despite any objections Sangho raises.
Oh no, I got it that you meant he's the lesser of two evils, not a good choice. I just didn't see it after last chapter, given how awful his personality is. But I see your point about Hakdo's indifference, and that's true. Maybe because they take so long to update, I forget past chapters when I read this.
Either way, I am unconvinced that Hyung is the lesser of two evils bc I have a feeling that he just likes "the chase". He's an N, who just wants Sangho to feed his ego, from what I understood. Not only he's uncaring like Hakdo, but also actively pursues a toxic dynamic with Sangho.
That's suppositions about Hyung from what we know so far, however, hence why I'm not convinced who'd be the lesser of two evils.
Totally fair. Although, my focus really isn't on who cares more for Sangho, because, in that regard, I don't think either of them comes out on top. I just like the fact that the Hyung seems to be (more?) interested in Sangho, specifically, no matter what that reason is. I guess I'm also just a little bit biased already towards characters who can shake up the status quo in an established relationship of any kind where only one of the partners is expected to compromise all the time as is the case with Sangho's and Hakdo's relationship.
In the end it's a lose-lose situation. Considering how nice of a guy Sangho is, best case scenario would be a player 3 joining the game.
Realistically speaking tho, it's more likely Hakdo will have a change of heart.
Tho it could be a "thank you, next" kind of story lmao.
Shaking up the status quo doesn't dismiss the idea of this ending up being a 3P however....
I feel so rewarded after reading this chapter!
I'm so proud of DG. That's such character growtg from him, who accepted scraps at the beginning, to now be very confident on what he wants out of a partner and not accepting to settle for less.
To make it better... Jiwon is suffering for his own actions. It's not DG running a nasty revenge. It's not DG abusing him. It's his own damn actions. And he realizes that, given his inner dialogue.
We see here two characters who went through rough heartbreaks with their first love, but with two very different outcomes. Where Jiwon got bitter and closed off, DG decided to take a lesson out of it to better himself and move on. And that was before meeting Jiwon in the restaurant and getting the chance to get closure on his own terms (so the fact that Jiwon never got to have closure with his senpai doesn't make him and DG different cases).
Now I suppose it's Jiwon's development chapters, and I can't wait to read it. I can see the artist has softened the way they draw him, his eyes are way more softer while it used to be sharp. The artist is really skilled.
MY POOR HEART!
I love these two together, omfg. The art is so damn pretty, Shizu and Mina are too damn handsome for their own good. I love how good Shizu is as a boyfriend, so cute! And Mina, I love how far he's come, but still sad at how scarred life's made him.
I gave up on this manga for obvious reasons, but it keeps on appearing on my notifications. Any way to stop that?
Read the fucking masterpiece
I don't like it anymore, I won't read it. I just want to stop getting notifications.
it wont stop till you love it again. and once it does, u wont want it to stop
If you want to stop getting notifications, on the page of the manga just hit the garbage can buttion next to where it says 'im reading this manga'
Thank you!
Now a serious comment:
I loved DG's growth chapters. It's like the author took everything we complained about him and made him realize his mistake, apologize for it, and walk out of a toxic situation.
But now it looks like it's Jiwon's turn and omfg, yes, everyone wants him to realize what a jerk he was, but this is possibly going to be his growth chapters. He has shit to deal with that's unrelated to DG - namely, his family and his 'ex', so I'm expecting some heavy shit to come.
In the end, everyone just wants the same thing: for Jiwon and DG to be on the same page on a healthy relationship, but I'm scared tho, cuz I've seen a lot of manwas recently where, after a lot of shit, the couple ends up each going their own way, having "learned important life lessons from that one relationship".
I think they will end up together but if they went separate ways that would be great too.
A great way for Jiwon to grow up is to face his ex and his family and tell them all off and make them suffer and realized what a great person he has become even without their support.
If he stands up for himself in front of them that will empower him and make him more confident and proud of himself even if they turn out to be utterly garbage people without any remorse at least Jiwon can move on thinking that is a waste to suffer because of them they don't deserve his love and all the bitterness in his heart.
If Jiwon gets better that way then he probably someday will be ready commit in a true relationship.
But focusing on DG and chasing after him shouldn't be his focus right now.
I want them together, but I think their relationship is a bit past salvageable. IDK what development Jiwon would have to go through, but I'd for sure would hate it if he hit rock bottom and DG took pity on him, that's no development at all.
I also don't think taking revenge is very empowering, bc he punished them... then what? His issues won't suddenly vanish. We all wanted DG to take revenge, but I think it was much more dignified to have him realize his mistakes, apologize and try to move on. And the point here is to have Jiwon move on and become a better person.
If you're still bitter, then you haven't really moved on at all. Healed wounds don't hurt, y'know? You're only ever over something when you can honestly say you don't care.
That being said, if a confrontation with his family or ex does happen, I'd love for Jiwon to realize he honestly doesn't care. Exes get specially pissy at that ╮(￣▽￣)╭
My bet is that either the ex is going to have turned good and apologize to him, or he will see the ex and realize he feels nothing at all towards him and give up on resentment.
But what I'd also love to see is him realizing he doesn't have to be perfect and drop the mask he wears around his friends. If they like him, it's for who he is.
I actually don't want them to be in relationship at all. after all that Alex did to him, I don't think they should get together. but this is a yaoi cliche. so don't worry, they will end together even if I don't want too cause it will never be healthy.
I have conflicted feelings about them tbh. On one side, I want their happy ending, on the other, I think it's "spoiled".
Is anyone surprised at all? Like, really? We've all been expecting this to happen, and I've endured over 40 chapters of outrage for THIS.
"BuT Dg BrOuGtH iT uPoN hImSeLf Bc AlEx SaId It WaS nO fEelInGs AtTaChEd" - yeah yeah, okay, sure, and Jiwon took the chance to abuse him, but gueeess what? MY BOY DG, HE REALIZED THAT WAS A MISTAKE!
I was so proud when he decided to let go of Jiwon, and not just out of spite! I was REALLY proud that he realized what went wrong and APOLOGIZED for acting out of line!
"bUt It WaS nO fEelInGs AtTaChEd" - He apologized! You hear that? He apologized for acting out of place when Jiwon had made it clear they were only fuckbuddies.
"Dg AcCePtEd It Bc He WaNtEd To, He CoUlD hAvE wAlKeD oUt" - and now he doesn't want to and is walking out! HAH!
So what if Jiwon is only now realizing he has feelings for DG?
THAT'S HIS OWN FAULT. HAH!
What a nice person, love ya
Yeah, but I didn't expected it to be that ... i can't find the words
I didn't know it would be like that, but I think it was kinda to be expected that Jiwon would only realize he loved DG when DG left him. I was mad that the author made DG accept to the last sex scene, but I realize the intention: Jiwon got DG to behave just like he always wanted, just to realized he hated that.
Everyone talked shit about DG. Everyone said Jiwon was honest about what he wanted. Everyone said DG brought this upon himself. That he could walk whenever he wanted.
Yes to all this. So, now DG is accepting the nature of the relationship, owning his mistake and apologizing for it, and walking out.
Alex never was really honest though. you don't get jealous of someone you only have sex with so no XD he give him mix sign's and rape him on been jealous, what again show he wasn't honest at all.
Soooo true
100% true, I agree.
Omg I hadn't seen it that way. True!
First of all: I want Sangho to bottom.
Am I the only one who's noticed how similar Hakdo is to this Hyung? I think Sangho has a type.
While I am very wary of this fishy Hyung, I'm also really annoyed at Hakdo playing hard to get with Sangho. A little competition would do him good. And tbh, I'm enjoying seeing someone pursue Sangho.
judging by Hyung's comment, I'd guess he "lost interest", which makes me agree that Hyung looks like the type to mess around. I can't even tell if it was a nasty break up, Sangho is so chill about it, but I guess he was heartbroken. I'm actually worried that he's attached to this hyung, it seems he still does a lot of things from their time together.
Hakdo's infatuation with his friend annoys me, it looks like he's only clinging to it out of stubborness. And I get a bit peeved at flighty characters who avoid commitment and emotional attachment when we already know they're going to marry and adopt five dogs and a cat. Seems like unnecessary drama.
But if all he wants from Sangho is to play around, fine, that's his choice. But that makes Sangho fair game to hyung. And I quite like hyung so far.
What kind of college guy goes after an underage high schooler? That's a fucking predator. But what to expect from someone who's only hanging with Jihoo for his money. Hweeman annoys me so much. I really hope to see him getting what he deserves, tho I don't wish for Jiwon to be the one to deliver punishment. I want him to suffer for his own actions.
Jihoo seems to be a nice guy, tho oblivious to his brother's suffering. He's just comfortable with the status quo. As for Jiwon, I can really see where he's coming from now, and it was a sad environment he had back at home, I can't help but resent his parents for what they put him through. He was such a sweet child.