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WAIT YOURE RIGHT I DIDNT NOTICED AND THE COVER CHANGED TOOO

What exactly confused you so I can explain?

Me too! Does Sion believe Pavel betrayed him because Sienne said so? How is he so sure?

uggghh I don’t even knowww (╬￣﹏￣) I’m even confused at what i’m confused about to the point that I don’t even know what i’m confused aboutttt Lord help me

Let me see if I can summarise it. There is another reader in here that can summarise it better. You will find them trough the comment section since they are in here for every chapter (let me check their name.I will write it on another comment).

But back to the explanation.

On the first timeline Sion was in love with Parvellone. And Sion had the Sain Zion stigmata. It's like a tattoo or something that proves that he is the chosen one from God. And Parvellone is the angel of destruction. For the holder of the saint Zion stigmata to be awaken, The angel of destruction must die, aka Parvellone (wich happens on the first timeline, Parvellone died.Parvellone changed Sion memories from the first timeline, so what he remembers happening back then isn't what really happened).

About Sienna.
The Mayee house wanted control over the empire or whatever, and having a holy lord from the house Maye was a good method to achieve that. So they put Sienna on the throne.
However, Sienna's didn't have a stigmata of his own
. So the Maye house took children and tried to transfer their stigmata to Sienna's body. When Sienna discovered about Sion stigmata, he kidnapped him and tried to transfer his stigma to him(peel the skin and put it on Sienna's or smt like that).

Back to the first timeline, Sienna wasn't able to transfer Sion stigmata, Parvellone found Sion, I don't remember what happened there really, but they both die, activating Saint Zion stigmata. Sion goes back to the past, but on Sienna's body.
Sion original body disappears.
Sienna's soul no longer inhabitants that body.

Also, Sain Zion stigmata holder was destined to become the holy king, but Parvellone interfered with that on the first timeline, trying to change Sion destiny.

This is literally God saying, well sorry it can't really be changed, and rewinding things.

@Eggu_chan is the other person that can explain this better to you. You can find their comment right below yours (●'◡'●)ﾉ .
Hope you enjoy the novel

Lmao i was thinking "are they talking about me????"

Bruh i live in stigmata comment topics.

Although there is somepne who left better and well worded out spoilers a bit bellow. Lemme see if i can link it

https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/15656049/

If you have any specific questions though, i'll do my best to answer em. My spoiler comments are scattered as hell

Tipo.kkkk.
I always see you in this comment section and you always spoil me everything I need to know, so I thought about summoning you.
Tx for coming.

A question will sion ever find out the whole truth? So will he one day know parvel never betrayed him bc his inner thoughts r rlly sad rn

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Sorta! He'll find out overtime when he digs through the history of their kingdom and when he finally finds the contract between parvel and the prev holy king before siennas. Via that and history books, Sion sorta piece things together. He also finds out about Parvel's grand plan and finds a way to basically prevent it from happening.

So at the end he knows that parvels knows hes sion ;0?

Yes. I'd say near it.

Thank u bc tbh that will make me not read it too much i find that point slightly..disstressinf

I'd recommend saving chapters for now. What i'm doing tbh but for diff reasons since i've already the novel. Manwha seems to be pretty far from the climax of the story.

The story is kinda like a mystery genre?? Since Sion overtime has to figure shit out along the way and the mystery of Parvel and the truth is one of the biggest ones to be revealed later on.

May I know why Sion want Parvel's grand plan to fail? I don't mind with spoilers. And what is actually Parvel's grand plan?

So what actually happened in the first timeline? What did pavel change the memory into again?? And how can Pavel fall in love with Sion this time when before Pavel betrayed Sion? Why did pavel betray sion for seinna again?

wait parvell knows for sure that it’s Sion?? I thought he just knew he wasn’t the actual Sienna….

Yes. Just think of it as a connection where if parvell sees Sion he will always recognise him.

I just read the recent chapter. Looking at the last thing Parvell said in the new chapter Does that mean that Parvell has died and gone back in time multiple times?? And if so did Sion also die during those times??? waahhh i feel like im just getting more and more confused by the chapterrrr (⊙…⊙ )

Yep! It's a connection based on their stigmata. Parvel figured out "Siennas" was Sion as soon as they first met when Sion first woke up as Siennas.

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Sooo--Parvel's "grand plan" is to basically follow the fate planned out by god for the ones who hold the stigmata of Saint Zion and Angel of Destruction. Sion will eventually find out what happens based on going through the history of previous stigmata holders.

Essentially, it involves the angel of destruction sacrificing themselves for Saint Zion's Stigmata to activate. Hence WHY when Sion connects the dots, he will scramble to prevent that in any means(without telling Parvel his own grand master plans) and WHY Parvel's and Sion's first life was completely fucked up.

How?? It's because Parvel tried to oppose the fate god handed to both Sion and him, Parvel took Sion from his rightful path(to become the holy king) and ran away from the holy kingdom. Well, Parvel currently believes because that life is played on God's chessboard, his plans were destined to fail(and it did, parvel's brother died, his mom died, his dad died, his and Sion's friend died, Sion got captured and tortured and Parvel had to sacrifice himself in the end to make things better for Sion).

Remember Sion's memory of before he died? It's fake, Parvel's the cause. Before he sacrificed himself, he made sure that Sion won't ever trust and doubt Parvel so he wouldn't follow the same fate in the next life. He just didn't take into account that Sion's stigmata ALSO brought Parvel back in time(which is when Parvel first got his stigmata, i believe current manwha chapter shows it). Parvel is completely distraught in that chapter because he thought Sion used his miracle to bring Parvel back instead.

Thank you!

Wow I gotta re read that chapter again Parvel must've been so shocked

On first timeline, Parvel never betrayed Sion. The gist was that, Parvel took sion to the neighboring kingdom to avoid Sienna's grubby hands and declared war. His best friend is the prince in that kingdom and is friends with Sion, Parvel's plans was that even if he doesn't survive the war, he plans to leave Sion on the hands of his bestfriend.

Overtime though, Parvel's side was losing. So, he cut off his hand which has his stigmata which resulted in him losing the powers from it. I can't remember the right timeline of events so i may be saying things out of order buuuuttt---Parvel gets imprisoned with the peace of mind that Sion is left alone but eventually finds out that his bestfriend was assassinated and Sion was captured in the process. ORRR while parvel was at war with the holy kingdom, his bestfriend gets assassinated, Sion was captured and Parvel gives up his stigma in a way to keep Sion safe.


Either way, the end result is what matters, Sion gets tortured, Siennas plants into his head that Parvel sold him out and was loyal to Siennas this whole time.

Then, the escape happens. How? Well, parvel was able to escape thanks to a guard/officer who Sion helped a long time ago(remember the officer who had a dog that was introduced early on? Well, Siennas originally planned to make sport of the 3 puppies and had them be chased by the predators of the garden. Have his noble friends watch for entertainment. Well, stuff happened and the officer ended up getting mixed into the mess, his own dog was forced to be part of the slaughter and well, Sion saved his dog last min)
I believe this guard is the same guard who helped big time during the fire in the theatre and Sion had dinner with him and euclise(Parvel's brother's gf).

Anyways, continuing on the escape, Parvel slaughters his way towards the castle/holy temple that Siennas resided in and is blocked by the soldiers and the former holy king's sword(the same role as Parvel now has). Well, Parvel convinces him that Sion is the chosen one and the other agrees and uses his stigma to regen Parvel's cut off hand. Thus giving him his stigma back.

All hell breaks loose. Parvel's stigma basically blitzes people out of existence. That's the "earthquake" siennas and crew felt and why the ran off leaving sion behind. Sion manages to escape too and so--this is where things get warped on Sion's side of the memory.

So we've already seen in the first few chapters how Sion died right?? Well, it's faked. By Parvel, how it happened was that Siennas was found by Parvel and gets hit by Parvel's power. Dies gruesomely and eventually finds Sion dying(bleeding out from his wounds on his back) Parvel is distraught and blames himself, he believes defying the fate god planned for him and Sion caused all this so he sacrifices himself to activate the true power of his stigma, which is connected to Sion's stigma. The death of the one who holds the angel of judgement's stigma will cause a miracle to happen. This is hinted from the religion's lore. The first Holy king Saint Zion comes back to life and caused a great miracle that healed and revived those who the angel of judgement punished/killed.

Well, before Parvel dies, he tweaked Sion's memories so he'll remember things differently. As i said, Parvel believes it's due to him things turned out this way. So he wants Sion to avoid him/hate and doubt him in the next life..he just never realized that Sion included Parvel in his miracle. Parvel returns back in time where he first got his stigmata(where he was dying from poison in the snow). Which is why he was so distraught when he realized he came back in time.


I read MTL though so i never figured out Parvel went through multiple timelines??? Idrk if it's true, a mistranslation or i never caught on to it. This is why i really want official/fan translations of the novel ngl. I miss out on the sweet sweet details which is important on a lore heavy story like Stigmata.


Also my bad if im being incoherent. I'm sleep deprived and was dealing poker for alost 8 hours lol. My brain is fried. You can tell with how i forgot some titles and timeline

Awe shit i didn't know i was replying again to the same comment sob pls OP, delete my reply above, i'm hella embarassed now LMAO

No wonder i felt dejavu

OHH NOO, I accidentally click dislike

Lol what a coincidence??? I binge this in one day as well and now it's 2:26 am

3:15 am for me lmao, all in one night

Yoo same I just finished reading it, currently 12:05 am, started at like 10 or 11 am then a nap break

Same here but when the next update i saw the korean site it’s finished already with 130 but i couldn’t open the chaps

i doubt that such a move could kill a strong s class like director song but sung hyunjae is such a nasty jerk when he fights. i love him so much lol

No

WE LEGIT HAVE THE SAME REACTION AND WORDS

Yep

what chap??

What chapter?

Check out 345 in this manhua

Cause the author finds it stylish

Maybe the author can’t draw fingers that well

He's probably got some type trauma that means he don't take the crusty gloves off