Okay lemme make it totally clear: yahwi is a terrible person and a rapist and the list goes on. It’s a fact. And I’m not saying by any means that Cain is even close to yahwis level but it’s still wrong what he did. (And like let’s be real a fever ain’t no emergency situation) Like yk he kissed someone without consent. Just cuz rape is fucking awful, it doesn’t erase other less extreme forms of sexual harassment
And some extra information: I actually don’t really like any of the characters in this story, so I’m not taking any sides or stuff, I’m honestly just here to see how it all plays out
I agree with you(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I’m still here because I’ve wasted my reading this and now I’m just curious how it’ll play out soooo.... （￣へ￣）
I agree. But I think it's mostly Cain just being a dog and not knowing what else to do, he wants to help Jooin in any way possible. Not that he's not in the wrong, I just think he's a bit unaware. Hopefully he apologizes or smth
I see where ur coming from but I disagree since Cain has lived 20 something years as a human. Well imma give him that he probably panicked because of their past and everything but yeah it’s wrong.
I just want to say, a fever can be a medical emergency. If it's too high for too long, it can kill you. Your body has a fever to burn off the infection. If its too high, you will burn from the inside. That's why most medicines are fever reducers and when someone has a fever, it's important to monitor their fever and try to get it down so they don't die. (I'm not saying I'm for Cain or Yawhi, just....trying to medically educate you. If you have a fever that is too high and not going down with medicine, you need to seek help.)
Oh yes thanks for saying that. I just thought that it was weird how Cain didn’t even measure jooins temperature but that could be explained by him panicking or it simply being a plot hole.
Oh hell naw what is this comment section. Y’all be talking so much about how it was an emergency situation but like it’s not, it’s just a Fever, Cain wrong for this and that’s just how it is.
thank you
thank you!!!!!!!! cain stans being okay with this is totally sick lmfao
Fevers can kill you
But in most cases they won’t. I understand that Cain was panicking but he didn’t even measure his temperature or anything so he wouldn’t even know how extreme the situation is
Sill he just gave him medicine to get better and to do that he as to transfer water. It was not a KISS!!
I don’t really agree. Yes, he gave him medicine and had good intentions but he still touched him without his consent, while sleeping. Ah one more thing I want add: he acted really rash. I didn’t really see how he tried for long to wake jooin up. He did it without thinking about it (not excusing his behavior). He could’ve just waited till he had woken up. And as I read in some comments (SPOILER WARNING FOR THE NEXT EPISODE) jooin apparently wakes up right after. Meaning that Cain could’ve woken him up
Bruh Cain was worried about Jooin no time to think about waking him up. When jooin specifically said that he wanted to sleep. And in the next chapter I think it the next morning so yeah your point false.
Honestly what is this logic? It’s alright to touch him without his consent, while he’s unconscious but it’s not okay to wake him up? No dude what the fuck is this. And well I don’t know specifically about the upcoming chapters so yeah, lol guess that wasn’t right information
Bruh all he did was transferring water it not that big of a deal when trying to help someone. He was not “touching him”
But like he literally was touching him. But well i guess we just disagree. Yeah ... idk I think I’ve made my points clear, I don’t really have anything to add lol
Yeah I have homework anyway. My brain hurts for reading these replies.
Lmao same here it’s 3 am imma go sleep
But like ... why not? Why can’t he tell her? I really don’t understand XD wouldn’t it make a lot of things easier?
Damn this was a ride. It’s actually the first story ever where I was deeply disgusted and well I still am. I mean I kept reading cuz I wanted to know what will happen so I will give that to the author but it’s just horrible. There is so much in this story wrong. And from my personal view of this story I don‘t feel like the harsh themes (rape, abuse,...) where handled well at all. Just disgusting and romanticized and if not romanticized then for sure normalized. And that whole bdsm stuff. Could’ve been a great part of the story and could’ve shown how some people try to hide behind the term “bdsm” and actually try to abuse people. But this is not even close to that. The author does show abuse and tries to push it into the “bdsm” category but it’s just toxic and oh boy just ... no.
Some other aspect I didn’t enjoy was the way the author tried to humanize the abusers. An example would be the last few chapters. Duna (and haesol) does horrible things to minho and then in the next chapter she helps him shower and if that wouldn’t be enough, in the next scene we see a flashback of Minho being an asshole. As if that would justify dunas behavior.
And also about the ending. First off what the hell. I felt like that came out of nowhere and the author was given one chapter (or maybe two) to wrap up the whole story. I could imagine that at least 4 more chapters would’ve fit here (that could concentrate a little on Minho and his new “boyfriend” and also on duna and haesol) and easily there could’ve been more. And even if it would still end on VERY toxic terms, that at least could’ve given the story a smooth ending and not leave it extremely open (what in my opinion doesn’t fit the style of the whole story), also leaving a ton of questions and rushing some character development in the last few seconds. And I think that dunas character development fit at all because she had a lot more fitting moments in the story where she actually could’ve reflected and changed over time but at the very end I just don’t see how her “ultimately breaking up” with Minho would lead to that, considering that they both already went through that situation more than one time.
There are so many things that are simply just WRONG about the ending (btw I’m using terms like “wrong” and “disgusting” cuz as I already said it’s not a manhwa where the topics actually get handled well. An example for a well known manhwa that actually would do that: killing stalking. And to just roughly say it: killing stalking and sadistic beauty can be totally compared in the way that it well treats rape, abuse, violence and something labeled as love. And lemme tell u. In only this view sadistic beauty sucks dick).
And there maybe would’ve been a way to end this story in a way that has some “deeper meaning” and doesn’t just glorify mentally and physically abusing people and either gives some goddamn karma to all those people or shows in a good mhm GOOD way how people in our society can do all those things and get away with it. But the problem with the second option would be that I think the whole story should’ve been established in a completely different way and go either deeper into the actual problem that rape obviously is and how people handle toxic behavior or include more problems (for example include the police like maybe Minho tries to somehow reach the police and while he doesn’t get the response from then that he would like and deserve, duna would get involved and try to idfk drag him back and remind him where his place is and this is just some random idea so don’t take it too seriously lol)
So yeah I think that’s it. This is a big ass paragraph but I had to let out my thoughts. And well on the terms that the mahwa ended now I don’t like it and am pretty disgusted by it. And that in the worst way possible lmao
This story is bad and even tho I like the character designs and I loved haesol for a really long part of the mahwa, it’s just not good. (I also wanted to point out the inconveniences of the story, that was something that annoyed the gell out of me and also some plot holes and just stuff that doesn’t fit the characters and the story as a whole. Also the translater called out a lot and I loved the comments. On some I didn’t agree fully but I think almost everything was spot on and in all it was just nice to read someone else’s opinion on the story and I don’t get how some people were so damn angry in the comments. If someone got a problem then go read it on an official side you poor fuck.)
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I don't don't know if you know but we are going to get "beautiful" side story about Minho being a sex slave of his rapist. I won't be even surprised if author will push Stockholm Syndrome judging on the teaser picture.
I thought the entire story would be nice to read and learn something abt bdsm oh boi I was so wrong , the plotline is non existent here
I didn’t know and oh damn ... oh god. Well I’m not looking forward to that lmao but I kind of am tho i think. Let’s go on a new journey where the answer „how can I terrorize a character the most?” Will be answered
Yeah it’s so messed up. At the start I thought that the story would probably surround the growth of dunas and haesols relationship and go from the non consensual “punishing” in the first chapters to at the end a healthy relationship. I mean I personally don’t like how a lot of manhwa have this plot “from rape/abuse to a healthy couple” but that’s what I excepted cuz it’s really common and I hoped that it would draw attention to the different aspects of bdsm like for example consent and coming with that also save words and the importance of being comfortable and okay with everything that’s going down and so on and on. And this story touched those topics at one point but it didn’t actually matter to me and from my view doesn’t “point out how bad their behavior now is in contrast to how it was when duna got into bdsm and she cared for the sub and said some important stuff” but just rushes over that in one chapter and then again continued to normalize rape
Thanks dude
It's even more scary cuz some ppl think tht all this shit is acceptable irl.,
Btw suchna fast reply I didn't expect it lol
Yeah fr and as far as I know in South Korea there’s a ton of problems regarding the law and society as a whole when It comes to rape and victim blaming so it’s pretty ironic how even in a ton of manhwas that involve rape and especially in this one it’s just normalized and made to fit into that fucked up society instead of criticizing it.
And lmao I saw your comment right after u wrote it XD
Man tht is so fucked up and honestly so sad, u heard tht even supporting femnism is seen outrageous and tjere is a lot of stigma and back minded ness w the Korean society, it doesn't help tht they are sucha homogeneous society too , but I don't want to give them Lee way in this age , cuz it's understandable if tey are insensitive due to their land locked region and no foreign contact , but this is the 21st century u have the internet to educate ur self with for fuxks sake .
Sike u must be on the site a lot then, I usually don't comment much , but I saw sooo many angry Comments on this manhua and went to check what's happening, I havnt caught up on the manhua itself but seeing ppl's reaction and whatever the shity plotline I have until I'm womderinf if it's worth reading, like sure I was initially was interested due to the bdsm content, but this author is clearly not THAT educated or aware of it. Anyways it was great talking to u, I wouldn't mind giving u my socials if u would like to have enriching debates and discussion w me :-)
Thank you so much uploader. I love this so much and it’s such good quality, without watermarks or anything too and the translation is top tier
I thought this was bl and screamed when the sex scene came cut I definitely wasn’t ready for it. Love it tho XD
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