I just can't do it. I cannot READ this. I get that it's fictional, and that it's also a ya...

I got to chapter 34 btw...

If you got to chapter 34, you obviously were not too offended by the mangaka's portrayal of the characters. FYI, Akihito is treated as anything BUT a dog by Asami, but hey, if that's the way if comes across to you, good luck in finding something that's so vanilla it gives you cavities. Cheers!

Take it easy! :) I will try to explain the meaning of this story even though English isn't my native language, however, I hope to explain myself:
This story is the expression of a sexual fantasy, you don't have to consider this like something that could happen in the real world. This story has its particular nuances: It can be considered as a sadomasochistic (domination and submission) sexual story that evolves in something different as well as an interesting "noir" and mafia story. Everyone is entitled to have their own sexual fantasies and tastes, and this story involves fantasies of submission (humiliation, rape, pain) that can make some people uncomfortable. When I started reading this story I was surprised until the moment I understood that it was only the way the author chose to put and describe an erotic story.

Lady L thou English flowed like a mighty river.......,....... . Anonymous. ha poetry in the morn.

Good for you. You're allowed your own opinion and voice.@LadyLigeia gave a terrific point of view on the outline of this story and personally, I loved her take on it. Everyone has different tastes and hard limits and should never be made to feel crap or uncomfortable about it.

I think you're right, and it's easier to have an understanding of the manga from your point of view. Haha! To be honest, I think I just let the story get to me too much
Your English it great btw, and I value your opinion.
Cheers!

Thanks,
And I agree with you completly. Nice to know we have some level headed people on here!

@ Islander the maj. of people here are sane. level headed. this site gets trolled a lot. Sometimes same token when you make a response or make a statement expect to be challenged. think of it as a very fine debate club on steroids. Lady L. what is your first lang.?

My first language is Spanish, the second Italian, the third English (and the one that I know less) :)

It's like the "No offense but" posts. Sure, everyone's entitled to their opinion and you're welcome to spew it all over the place, but you can't expect that you're not going to get blow-back. And I think that's where the real problem comes in. When people post negative opinions like this, they aren't simply "venting" as OP claims s/he is. If that was the case, s/he wouldn't come back to see if s/he got any responses.

So clearly, the point of posting is to get a response. And the defensiveness at opposing viewpoints makes it equally clear that OP had a goal. S/he is like the many who can't understand why not everyone believes as s/he believes, likes what s/he likes, hates what s/he hates. Unfortunately, s/he can't leave it at that but must try to make the wayward understand the evil in which they wallow. S/he's not venting. S/he is intervening.

I'm not really singling you out, OP. You're just the latest in a long line of opinionated fly-bys who felt the need to witness against this manga and warn us all that we're going to hell for our wicked, wicked ways. Like that was going to make a difference.

Hey! You know what? You should go check out Mob For Jack. There are a lot of sinners in need of your counsel over there.

Thank you, Anonymous, thank you for TELLING IT LIKE IT IS! ''Why yes, I am entitled to an opinion and my own voice, I am just venting, but on second thought, let me come back to see how many replies I've elicited out of people and how many of them have been irked by my ignorant,whiny long-ass post''. Hiding behind the freedom of speech, while at the same time denying other people's freedom of speech when someone disagrees with them, they're like ''back the fuck off, I have nothing to say to you, I only talk to level headed people.'' Of course, ''level headed people'' being code for people who think their word is law. I just love these cries for attention, like ''I cannot read this, why oh why, my emotions are all over the place, my heart is breaking....oh, but my heart was strong enough to withstand reading 6 VOLUMES out of 8!'' Riiiiiiight.

Anonymous is right. there has been a t least one a week , coming in diff. forms. It is getting old. did you decry your dislike on Caste heaven 's page too? I went to look did not see any thing under our name. there are things I read on this site that I don't like, but don't feel the need to leave a comment on. it's rather judgemental. Telling those who do like it there is something wrong with them. If you did not like it you could have stopped and moved on. Like you did with C. heaven. where is your post decrying that manga? I'm begin. to smell a set up. What I don't know is why

oh islander, honey, better trolls than you have tried. for clarification purpose: you mention that you can't bear it any longer, the horrible way Akihito is treated in this manga, how Asami doesn't deserve him, how he treates him like a dog, blah, blah, blah. yet, in spite of your deep hatred for this manga, you've read 34 chapters. wow, you must be a masochist. and at the end of your rant, you say: ''AND THE PLOT IS TOOO GOOOD''. newsflash: the whole plot is based on Akihito and Asami's relationship. come back when you have valid points and logic in your thinking.

Chill out, she's just saying while the manga is really well done, their relationship makes her uncomfortable because she feels Akihito's pain too much. Which he indeed actually feel.

I'm the same with some parts of Dramatical Murder, while I enjoy most of it, a few of the bad ends just make me want to puke (while others and give me some thrills xD). And despite my dislike of them, which though I guess is the point of them, I still don't think they're bad per say. I personally continue anyway because I like when stories makes me feel lots of extreme emotions.

To each their own level of "emotional disconnection ability" (not sure how to call it aha), I personally have a higher threshold level for mangas than for visual novels. If the girl gets into mangas as much as I get into visual novels I can totally get it xD.

Though their relationship has gotten a long way from chapter 34 now.

Umm, to all that think I'm trolling or whatever, I'm not. If I was trolling, I wouldn't do it with my actual account, I would go under 'Anonymous' like other people have.
Yes, I read 34 chapters, because "THE PLOT IS TOOO GOOD", I was hooked on the suspense, the background, and the beautiful artwork. But I didn't like the relationships in the story. Simple as that.
As for Caste Heaven posts, no, I didn't make one. I can choose what I want to post about. Kay?
Also, I posted this topics to get replies. Duh, why wouldn't I check them? It's a topic, so let's talk about it. Tell me your views! Even if you disagree with me, I'll still read it because this is a TOPIC FOR DISSCUSSION.
Anyways, it's a manga that I didn't enjoy reading, those are my view points. I have absolutly no problem if anyone else likes this manga, if so, tell me why? Your viewpoints. So far, only a couple of people have actually done that, so of course, I'm going to talk to the people that want to discuss it, and not just complain about my post

I don't get where she said she liked it. Just because she thought the art was good didn't mean she liked it. The fact that she said repeatedly that she was so traumatized she had to stop kind of suggests the opposite, don't you think?

Plus, she gets it so wrong, who and what Akihito is and how he is actually treated in the manga, that it's clear she did only the most cursory of readings. Add that to the fact that she didn't finish it and her judgment is kind of invalid. It's not fair to judge something you haven't finished.

Where did I say she "liked it"?

Haha "emotional disconnection ability" I guess I would call it that too!
And, yeah, I dont think the manga is "bad per say", I guess the difference between you and I is that I jump off at the extreme bits, and you keep going
But, yeah, I find that manga just consumes me, and I just get sooo engrossed into the characters, that it actualll feels like I'm dying inside. I've never really read a visual novel, but goodness, if they're as compelling as you say, I think I might have to stay away, or I might really die

It happens to me sometimes to get so involved in a story that it becomes difficult for me to continue with the reading. Once I read a novel that made me cry like crazy from the first chapter till the end...but I ended loving that novel to the bone. :)

It's true that I didn't enjoy reading it. And it's also true that I didn't complete it, I completly understand if you think my opinions aren't fair, because it's true that I haven't finished reading it.
From what I did read, my understanding of Akihito is that he is rambouncious, darring, and strong willed. And I think it's great that he's a main character thats SO STRONG! I really enjoyed how he wasn't afraid to say his opinions! So many main characters (in different manga) start out shy, and self-doubting, so having a confident character was like a breath of fresh air.
In Regards to His relationship with Asami (which, as what you said, can only be relevant to where I read to), I feel like Asami wasn't "mean" to him... But I feel like his actions were kinda "hurtful". I mean, he never listened to Akihito or respected his opinion. Even the whole Hong Kong incident with Fei Long was tramatic for him, but they were treating him like an object (I admit, mostly on Fei Long's part).
I think that whole incident made him close to the breaking point, which I am SO GLAD DIDNT HAPPEN.
I also fell like, because of the situation, he was forced to depend on Asami, which, I dont know, didn't feel right with me.