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ThingOfEvil October 29, 2023 12:08 pm

I have quite a bit of a problem here.
I simply don't get it. The more I read them, the less I understand. These Dom sub... Verse?

I already had a hard time with omegaverse and honestly, I have turn off my brain completely while putting all my focus on one thing that I find nice when I read one, but in this dom sub thing, it just doesn't work.

First, are the authors trying to... Like, legitimate and randomise BDSM? And make it credible on a biological level?
In omegaverses, they still use biological functions and mix them between sex and, uh... Cat. Biting the female neck is a cat thing, to prevent her from running away because male cats have thorns on their penises. The whole heat/rut is also a cat thing, the nest thing as well (for pregnant females) and so on.
It's honestly pure bullshit but at least we can trace the origins, the process behind the creation of this.... Thing.
I guess the first creator of omegaverse had a weird zoophilic fetish?

But what about this dom sub stuff?
How did they come to make it a subgender and stick biological reactions in it?

Thus, I don't understand the biology of this.
They say there are Dom's

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subs, switches and normals. Which mean it is not normal, right?
So what about these "sub levels" and why are they always seeing a generalist doctor instead of a psychiatrist? Where does it come from, what kind of... Hormones? Are at work here?
Or is it some kind of illness?

Is it a way to romanticise bondage and domination plays?
But ... Why?!?


I seriously cannot wrap my head around it.

Responses
    H1R3 October 30, 2023 10:43 am

    Finally! Although I haven’t read those long discussions, same! Omegaverse, guideverse and dumsubverse and many more just unsettled me. It feels forced with that fated pair stuff. Then it wouldve been better with just men being able to get pregnant stuff but things like omegas being extremely weak and always being strong stuffs are hard to read!

    Jamie October 30, 2023 1:49 pm
    Finally! Although I haven’t read those long discussions, same! Omegaverse, guideverse and dumsubverse and many more just unsettled me. It feels forced with that fated pair stuff. Then it wouldve been better w... H1R3

    Omg yess! I’m always thinking, if it’s “fated”, “instinct”, or whatever else…..how do you even know it’s real love since it’s just forced upon you. Can’t remember the one omegaverse name but it was when they kinda broke the whole fated partner thing and chose the one they love BUT it was still very sad. I remember some omegas just accepting the fact they can be SA by alphas

    ThingOfEvil October 30, 2023 2:25 pm

    Don't even get me started on "fate".
    I place it in the same category as time travel and amnesic authors who forget their story while they write them.
    I just can't stand it, these three above are the ultimate politically correct way to ruin a story that nobody ever asked for.
    The absolute Deus ex machina.
    Comes out of nowhere to go nowhere.
    That's a NOPE for me.

    I tried, huh. I really tried but it was always either irrelevant in the story, or entirely fucked shit up.
    Earned me a few haters in the comment section btw xD

    GhostBear October 30, 2023 3:53 pm
    Oh if the names of these yuri omegaverses come back to you DM me please!!!! I've been searching for months but I couldn't find any >< ThingOfEvil

    The ones on this site that I can think of rn are Ameagari no hanayome, Perfect Heroine wants to posses me, You taste a little sweet and Best Friends. Now tell about that 4earverse about those kids that had great world building. Also I don't think you're wrong in wanting to know the history/meaning behind Omegaverse and stuff. I like the genre but I wonder about that stuff too. Like when did this come about, who were the first, how did they react, how did the rest of society react to a new "secondary gender", Do male omegas have periods...It's come to a point where I take all my reading experience and come up with my ideas. Like medieval times, what did omega males where, what did alpha females wear. Who,what, when and how did omega Civil rights movement start. Were wars started bc of fated mates. And like eventually wouldn't Alphas and Oemgas be a majority of the population (bc in most stories they make betas have "low fertility) and wouldn't that at some point even out the genders and maybe eventually lead to just As and Os?

    ThingOfEvil October 30, 2023 11:26 pm
    The ones on this site that I can think of rn are Ameagari no hanayome, Perfect Heroine wants to posses me, You taste a little sweet and Best Friends. Now tell about that 4earverse about those kids that had gre... GhostBear

    Oh !! Thanks I'll check them out! And I'm gonna try to find this manga I was talking about ( might take a while, my personal library has grown quite a bit xD)

    I'll DM you when I find it ^^

    xashh November 1, 2023 6:25 pm
    Omg yess! I’m always thinking, if it’s “fated”, “instinct”, or whatever else…..how do you even know it’s real love since it’s just forced upon you. Can’t remember the one omegaverse name but... Jamie

    pleass update if you've remembered/found more info about that series you're talking about that

    ThingOfEvil November 1, 2023 10:40 pm
    pleass update if you've remembered/found more info about that series you're talking about that xashh

    Yes, yes! It's Kemono-Human School.
    Just keep in mind that the author is a fucking mad pervert who specialises in hardcore shotacon, so a few panels can be pretty cringy. But THIS manga is 100% safe.

    It mainly follows young boys in their everyday life in a school for humans/beastmen.
    Every detail of the universe is explained by their teachers/classmates, but the human boy you'll see the most appears like a huge pervert (basically he's just VERY curious about beastmen because he came from a school with only humans), and their interactions are pretty hilarious.
    When I say VERY curious, I mean VERY CURIOUS, I swear that boy has no limit xD

    You will learn everything you've ever wondered about 4earsverse and even stuff you never thought about lol.

    ThingOfEvil November 1, 2023 10:43 pm
    pleass update if you've remembered/found more info about that series you're talking about that xashh

    Ah oops you weren't talking about this one xD

    Well if someone else is interested... Here you go. Kemono-human school. By Kaminosaki.

    DON'T LISTEN to the people in the comments.
    Don't even check out his other work.

    xashh November 2, 2023 3:11 am
    Ah oops you weren't talking about this one xDWell if someone else is interested... Here you go. Kemono-human school. By Kaminosaki.DON'T LISTEN to the people in the comments.Don't even check out his other work. ThingOfEvil

    yeah i was talking about the breaking the whole partner thing by @/jamie. but thank you for the recommendation! I'll check it out

    ThingOfEvil November 2, 2023 8:07 am
    yeah i was talking about the breaking the whole partner thing by @/jamie. but thank you for the recommendation! I'll check it out xashh

    Don't check this out if your not into beastmen stuff you may just find it boring ^^

    The one I was talking about just develops the lore 562% more than any other of the genre (and I on a personal level really like the interactions between the kids and their teacher)

    Salvation November 2, 2023 3:08 pm
    OF COURSE I'm asking myself questions, I'm not watching reality-tv here so I obviously want to find some kind of meaning and logic in this new trend.There are more and more of those.If I could be satisfied with... ThingOfEvil

    idk what your point is, having interest in bdsm is completely normal, and people(kids)who can differentiate b/w fiction and reality shoudnt read this in the first place, plus this is just some fetish thing,its not even that serious

    ThingOfEvil November 2, 2023 8:40 pm
    idk what your point is, having interest in bdsm is completely normal, and people(kids)who can differentiate b/w fiction and reality shoudnt read this in the first place, plus this is just some fetish thing,its ... Salvation

    If kids could so obviously differentiate fiction from reality, they'd have the right to vote, but presidential elections prove that even ADULTS can't do it lol.
    So let me try to find logic in stuff.
    This is normal as well

    Salvation November 2, 2023 10:35 pm
    If kids could so obviously differentiate fiction from reality, they'd have the right to vote, but presidential elections prove that even ADULTS can't do it lol.So let me try to find logic in stuff. This is norm... ThingOfEvil

    ?idk what your point was, you can find logic, even i was curious how the biology in omegaverse works, but you are saying "what if this become harmfull??" bro this literal porn stuff, kids are not supposed to read this any way

    ThingOfEvil November 3, 2023 12:21 am
    ?idk what your point was, you can find logic, even i was curious how the biology in omegaverse works, but you are saying "what if this become harmfull??" bro this literal porn stuff, kids are not supposed to re... Salvation

    Just because they're not supposed to doesn't mean they don't.
    It's even pretty much the opposite.
    Nowadays parents don't give a fuck and instead of educating their kids, they fight to censor everything. That's how it works.

    So of course seeing more and more hardcore stuff trivialised with no base, no purpose, no logic and no barriers, I worry.
    Superficially. Because in the end I don't give fuck, I kept mine away as much as I could from shit I couldn't properly explain and made it clear to them what was ok, what was not and why according to my standards.
    They still did whatever the fuck they wanted in the end anyways --'

    There are mainly kids on this website, and it's even more obvious when you read the comments after every book shared here and holy #!@*¥ they're so full of shit that they wont listen to anything. I used to be like that too so I quite understand but still...

    And when I say kids, I'm not limiting it to being of legal age, but also to being mature enough not to be triggered by any fucking thing I say.

    Salvation November 3, 2023 6:29 am
    Just because they're not supposed to doesn't mean they don't.It's even pretty much the opposite.Nowadays parents don't give a fuck and instead of educating their kids, they fight to censor everything. That's ho... ThingOfEvil

    jesus christ u do know hentai exist, this still has some base level explanation, if u read hentai they are just plotless porn with most weird fantasies, you are reading sm into some random porn

    ThingOfEvil November 3, 2023 8:24 am

    Jesus Christ what's bothering you exactly? The fact that I'm trying to find sense in this or that I mention how unhealthy it might be?
    I answered your two questions yet you're still here stating the obvious without saying anything.

    Salvation November 3, 2023 10:08 am
    Jesus Christ what's bothering you exactly? The fact that I'm trying to find sense in this or that I mention how unhealthy it might be?I answered your two questions yet you're still here stating the obvious with... ThingOfEvil

    yeah acutally both of them, you are trying to find sense in porn and also mentioning how harmful this may be when this just a porn, and there is nothing weird in it, it has no pedophilic, nor rape, nor incest ideas, and if kids/children are the concern, then all porn(hentai) should be banned shouldn't it?

    Salvation November 3, 2023 10:09 am
    yeah acutally both of them, you are trying to find sense in porn and also mentioning how harmful this may be when this just a porn, and there is nothing weird in it, it has no pedophilic, nor rape, nor incest i... Salvation

    its just a bdsm fantasy, and having interest in bdsm is normal

    ThingOfEvil November 3, 2023 10:59 am
    yeah acutally both of them, you are trying to find sense in porn and also mentioning how harmful this may be when this just a porn, and there is nothing weird in it, it has no pedophilic, nor rape, nor incest i... Salvation

    Okay, first, no. Being interested in BDSM is not "normal" it varies from each and every person. It is just a kink, and not the safest one, as it CAN hurt.
    It is not yet abnormal but it certainly ISN'T normal.

    2) no one talked about banning it. I DO read it as well, but I'm not then gonna simply IGNORE the risks, I'm not THAT irresponsible.

    3) yes, there is weird in it.
    Bringing a very potentially harmful fetish at a biological level without even trying to build a lore to justify it thus trivialising it IS weird;
    Yet I didn't just pop to point out how dangerous it might be, ok?
    I asked and tried to understand because I'm a curious and quite open minded person;
    But seeing how you make a fuss about my interrogations, it makes me even more sure of how unhealthy and stupid this genre is.

    Pedophilia, rape and incest are not the only dangerous thing in porn, BDSM is an entire part of this category and if it was THIS normal, there would be ropes and whips in most couples' bedroom.

    So you can dislike my comment, and you can give me your opinion, but being pissy and trying to change my mind with obvious sofism in a very aggressive and argumentless way won't take you anywhere.

    Salvation November 3, 2023 12:39 pm
    Okay, first, no. Being interested in BDSM is not "normal" it varies from each and every person. It is just a kink, and not the safest one, as it CAN hurt.It is not yet abnormal but it certainly ISN'T normal.2) ... ThingOfEvil

    bro bdsm revolves around consent, and aftercare ,safeword i wouldnt had said shit if u didnt made bdsm seem weird, and again this is in no way harmfull, there is a fine line between reality and fiction, its just a porn fantasy hentai, now if u bring ppl who cant distinguish b/w reality and fiction then any smut is harmfull in that regard? and there are ropes and whips in couples bedroom who have interest in bdsm, and arent you the one saying "if this was normal" thats the whole point, it is not? its like saying if omegaverse was normal, if u have interest in bdsm then do it or then dont, why are u trying to consider, a pure fantasy hentai, which involves kink as smth to be considered in real life? this is my opinion.