The art is pretty but

again, its just a fantasy hentai built only for fetish purposes, and you are trying to find meaning in that, yk there are hentai where the girl lays eggs when she is filled with semen of some other species and her stomache bulges out, thats a whole different level of unormality isnt it? but its just a fetish hentai, solely built for the purpose of getting off to it, you cant find meaning in that

Look, this is NOT an argument. I feel like hearing a kid being told off for whatever by the teacher and retaliating with "but i'm not the only one!"

some comic books manage to build a universe that somehow makes sense, and my question's only purpose was to know if this one did too.
It was very well answered by other readers that no, it's not. and I even managed to learn some random stuff in this conversation so I still don't know what you're fussing about.

I think, even though my level in english is very low and basic, i managed to make very clear that
[ I ]
was asking to satisfy
[ MY ]
curiosity, I'm sorry if it is not the case and I'll take any grammar advice given to me. But you're still not presenting any argument here.

Also I don't know what hentai you re talking about but you sure read some weird shit xD give me the link please x')

and you sound like a kid trying to make sense into some fiction porn, if you were simply curious about what exactly is their biology that makes thing happen, i would had actually agreed with you, since when i read omegaverse i always wonder how does the male anotomy work, how do they get pregnant, do they have smth like a magical uterus, but you are saying that this is harmful, and bdsm is not healthy or smth along the lines, thats where i have the issue, because, this is just some porn shit, its not at all harmfull, and having interest in bdsm is perfectly normal, and i dont personally read those hentais, but if u actually want link i can give u in dms, those are quite popular on nhentai

Did you actually reply to my comment without even reading it... ?

i did not reply to your original comment, your original comment was fine, even i agreed to parts of it, its what you said in your replies

okay so before you start spiting anymore bullshit, I think we both need to make things clear, ok?
BDSM DOESNT!!! mean in Bed Do Sex with Me.
BDSM means Bondage Domination Sadism Masochism

Just to make sure that my bad english wont twist things, i'm going to google and copy paste these definitions.

Bondage;
1) The state of one who is bound as a slave or serf.
2) A state of subjection to a force, power, or influence.
3) The practice of being physically restrained, as with cords or handcuffs, as a means of attaining sexual gratification.

Domination;
1) Control or power over another or others.
2) The exercise of such control or power.
3) The fourth of the nine orders of angels in medieval angelology. (didn't even know this)

Sadism;
1) The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others.
2) The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
3) Extreme cruelty.

Masochism;
1) The deriving of sexual gratification, or the tendency to derive sexual gratification, from being physically or emotionally abused.
2) The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from being humiliated or mistreated, either by another or by oneself.
3) A willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences.

Normal;
1) Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical.
2) Functioning or occurring in a natural way; lacking observable abnormalities or deficiencies.
3) Relating to or designating the normality of a solution.

Source: The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition

Even you, as unwilling as you are, should see the problem in what you are saying, solely based on these definitions.

Other than sexual particularities, I believe the only occurrences of these are in torture and bullying.
I may be wrong and I'd be willing to hear about other occasions in which B, D, S & M may occur.

These are my arguments.
I'm not just spouting nonsensical bullshit just to make you, or/and other who share your opinion, appear like some dumb fuckers okay?

And I'm not going to write it again in a different manner to try to make you understand. If you still don't get it, it's time YOU do something about yourself.

If you don't have any valuable arguments, just shut up, or insult and block me, but stop wasting my time trying to legitimate an obvious shit such as "being interested in bdsm is normal and it's harmless".

thanks for explaining nothing to me, as someone who participates in bdsm in personal life, let me tell you again, bdsm isnt 50 shades of grey, and it isnt just beating up ppl randomly, it is based on trust, safeword and aftercare, everyone has some kinks and fetishes and indulging in them is quite normal,


But in the new study, researchers found people who like BDSM, which stands for bondage-discipline, dominance-submission and sadism-masochism, were well adjusted and reported slightly better wellbeing than people who don’t take part in those activities.

“We do have a lot of academic literature that’s finding these positive things and not finding harmful characteristics,” said Dr. Beverly Stiles, who has studied BDSMers but was not involved with the new research.

“The people that identify as being part of the (BDSM) subculture, this is who they see themselves as in their core,” said Stiles, chair of sociology at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas
-source, newyork reuters.

it is very different than how it is potrayed in fiction, and thats why i said there is a fine line b/w real life and fiction.
so just because someone has interest in it doesnt make them weird, or mentally unstable, its normal. and this is my argument

and that's why i fucking said that authors should be careful. didn t need to pull out a... sociologist lol out of your pocket. BDSM ISN T THE NORM. Be it in fiction or in real life.

ANd i'm saying it AGAAAAAIIIN this is getting tiring but the main audience here is very young or immature. pretty sure BEVERLY THE SOCIOLOGIST would agree that BDSM IS NOT for every one and SHOULD NOT be taken lightly.

want me to copy paste again "normal" definition ?

you re not talking to your closed circle of BDSM... ers?
the audience here is WAY larger than what BEVERLY WOULD EVEN IMAGINE and having a speech so irresponsible is unacceptable.

Since you are such BDSM enthusiast you CERTAINLY have seen the comment sections of various mangas tagging gang rape as bdsm and some readers commenting " awwww t's so cuuuuute I want to see more!"

introducing 12 years old to BDSM IS harmful and introducing it in such a light and inconsiderate way is even more dangerous. Each and every aspects of BDSM is aimed at a PARTICULAR AUDIENCE. it is NOT the NORM.

Like I said I, on a personal level, don t give a fuck about what you guys read and enjoy, and i read some way more hardcore shit, but i'm not gonna lie to myself and trivialise it because BEVERLY think it is healthy for PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY FCKING DO.
why would I worry about consentant adults? --'

As for
so just because someone has interest in it doesnt make them weird, or mentally unstable, its normal. and this is my argument.

No one ever said this. wait maybe some did but not me. i'm saying that it is not the case for the majority, thus it is not "normal".
it is YOUR taste, ok? YOURS, and it's not my place nor whoever's to judge

And I keep insisting that it's a very bad idea to trivialise such a practice, because as you said, it is a matter of trust, but that's not what is portrayed in 99% of the mangas about violence tagged bdsm and bdsm mangas.

Are you gonna keep playing dumb ? because if this is your only goal, okay. I apologise. you know so much and i was so wrong because i'm a stupid ass brainless bitch with no culture who does not engage in BDSM relationship which is not normal at all.

well seriously. stop twisting my words, ok? you re getting annoying. i've been very clear about what I think of trivialising shit that doesn t fit any audience, and THIS is my opinion, i never talked about people who are already into it, i hope, in a much safer way than those in the comments here. and it can be read even in some of my other comments, even not too long ago https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14609530/
(seriously, check this manwha, the popular tag and this Hell of a comment section)

i really think you gravely misunderstood me here.

you are right, see what i am trying to say is, if you are thinking abt the audience as the immature ppl or kids even then not only this but any porn manga is harmfull for them, and yes one of the fundamental base is trust. rape, randomly choking someone, are non consent is not bdsm.
i saw the link, u attached and you are absolutely right. maybe the meaning of bdsm has been twisted now after all these weird content which people would categorise as bdsm when its simply abuse.
but having interest in bdsm is normal and not having is also normal.
see for example, if i say i as a women like women, which majority women dont, that doesnt make me not normal, (i hope you are not a homophobe) same way if someone likes bdsm its perfectly normal, even tho majority dont,

then again if u go by the google defination, then being gay is also not normal since ppl are usually straight and then bdsm is ofc not normal,

oh right another statement, the target audience of this manga was not 12 year olds tho, they got to see it, is because of the carlessness of their gaurdians, because for 12 year olds who have no common sense, bdsm is a far matter even normal smut manga is also harmfull, this manga was targeted to 16/18+ who again (i am sorry for repeating this) can differentiate b/w reality and fiction(i hope)
because in japan these kind of smut mangas cannot be purchased by ppl below a certain age and they have clear 18+ written on their cover page, so its def not for minors,

Hey, not being "normal' doesn't instantly label you as abnormal.
Normal is just a term that applies to the majority, the norm.
If you're not normal, you can be abnormal, or particular, your status of "individual" earned you this categorisation.

Like I said, I reading way worse shit and it is not my place to judge anything or anyone.

I'm just naming things.

As for the age on the covers, it's not even enough of security since readers are also all individuals.
You can read hardcore shit at 12 and being as unphased as the moon before my naked ass or read softcore shit at 20 and be totally shocked or influenced by it.

That's why I keep repeating that some stuff are unhealthy, it is not a judgement, it's a fact.

Because we humans are fragile and malleable creature, and we often don't understandd and mix things up.
and the tiniest thing, the environment, condition, life experience, or just the wrong day, can be enough to totally fuck us up.

Now that you seem calmer, I can tell you why I didn't agree right away with your comparison to weird ass hentai
Clearly, you're most likely to get hurt by trying what you think is BDSM after reading a few manga or watching movies, since it does exist in real life, than you would by trying to lay eggs lol.
The boundary between fiction and reality gets blurrier when the topic is an existing thing, and not everyone can handle it right regardless of their age.

And I'm sorry I got heated up but you seriously missed my point, I never intended to insult anyone Or make fun of anyone's preferences.

I think omegaverse is based on wolves not cats. Someone may have already replied this but I didn’t read because the replies are insanely long.

Yes that's what I was told ^^ makes me think that those werewolves then were based on cats because these are very felines behaviours x')

So. Omegaverse is primarily male/male main pairing since it got traction as a genre with this primary pairing. There are hetero pairings and even published novels with them. Omegaverse as a genre is fairly new comparatively and has not had the time to balance out amongst other romantic pairings. This genre even made its way into supreme court over an author wanting to monopolize the genre and hetero pairings as their own.

It can also be mixed with animal characteristics as a way to play more into instincts and/or to appeal to the general interest in animal characteristics as found in other genres.

Give it time and more volume of other gender pairings will show up. Though, Yuri pairings may be an acquired taste for some since all alphas have a penis, even females. Females are also able to impregnate either female or male omegas and you can find them as background or secondary pairings in yaoi main pairing stories.

So for dom/sub. I do not see why a play needs to be legitimize. Even a lot of vanilla sex has people who like to feel a little dominated by their partner or to dominate their partner. In very vanilla ways.

Dom/sub play culture has a huge emphasis on trust and it is alright if it is not your cup of tea. This as a genre is newer than omegaverse, but is still a genre that has traction and is growing. Aspects of the genre are over fantasized aspects of the play. (I.e. the emphasis on words or power.) For those who have difficulty with dom/sub concepts, switches would be an added complication toward understanding and how they are incorporated into the rules of the genre.

Dom/sub and Omegaverse are two separate genres with their own sets of rules as to how they effect the world of the story.

Wanting to legitimize them through biological means is interesting. Humans are animals. We have pheromones. We have instincts and our own quirks. The desire to be dominated or to dominate. To feel in control or to let go and allow someone else to be in control. These are aspects that can be found in people. Biologically speaking, these are rather easy to find connections. Taking aspects or ourselves and fantasizing them is not an odd concept nor a new one.

At the end of the day, you choose to read what you want to. Your likes and dislikes are your own. If you find yourself not understanding or being uninterested in either or both genres, nothing wrong with that. My recommendation would be to simply not read them. I can see how they would be difficult genres for those who prefer more logical concepts and less fanciful or primal/instinctual based concepts.

All things considered, this story was very mild for a dom/sub genre. The main characteristics of the genre were there, but mild. A good intro to the genre but probably not as satisfying to those who have already immersed themselves.