Ig I'm a red flag??
no LITERALLY! i get preferences but wouldnt most ppl at least try?
its fine to have preferences but it makes zero sense to never try. the reason why almost all BLs are that strict with roles is cuz theyre written by women who are writing from the heteronormative lens
I think they're talking about themselves. It doesn't make zero sense for someone to not try. Nobody has to try anything if they don't want to. It's up to the person at the end of the day. Some of you really have to stop with this because it's seriously getting ignorant in the comment section.
babes the only reason a gay man wouldnt try (other than a medical condition) is internalized misogyny and homophobia. and there ARE homophobic gay ppl
how is it ignorant?? isnt it more ignorant to be weirdly mad at the ppl upset about being baited? like if ppl are that upset about the possibility of switching theres something wrong upstairs. cuz those ppl and the female authors are sooo obsessed with putting these fully grown gay men into boxes.
ur also ignoring the most important part of this thread which is there is a reason why BLs rarely include switches. its heteronormativity, and often gender roles as well (not as much for this one cuz the bottom is still masculine but still most other BLs portray the bottom as feminine, cant get off without butt stuff, etc)
Sorry, but you don't know that. You don't know each individual or what they prefer or what their mind set is. The fact that you're even trying to make this type of argument based on people you don't know is weird.
im obviously talking in general, but YOUR weird for defending straight female authors making heteronormative content and putting the characters into boxes they dont need to be in. idk what kind of projection is going on but you need to assess your own beliefs.
and AGAIN you are ignoring the meat of what ive been saying and the larger issue in BL with heteronormativity and gender roles, acting like the bottoms literally cant top anymore cuz theyve become a woman
I'm literally talking about irl? The person replied to is a gay male.
imma say for like a third time, stop responding if ur gonna ignore the meat of what im saying.
Just like you're ignoring mine and pretty much made assumptions.
Because literally where did I defend anything? I though you were talking about that person and irl queer men SPECIFICALLY.
Literally this
Also regarding this, no I did not. That's just your assumption because you don't have me doing any of that nor have I ever done that. But what you did was generalize gay men who don't like or want to switch (whether top or bottom). You don't know even a fraction of gay men in this to be saying things like that and yes it's WEIRD.
Some of you in this comment section are so "progressive" to the point that you're regressive.
in this world*
Agreed. Honestly, gay men who are strictly top or bottom exist and considering them a red flag is stupid. Kittykat saying some bs. Nobody should have to try something they don’t want to
wah wah wah. we all know that its mostly men who dont want to bottom, and its because of internalied misygony most of the time (i clearly said medical reasons are an exception). bottoming is associated with being feminine because youre recieving, and gay men are just as capable of being misogynistic.
cry me a river?? im allowed to talk generally and i said medical reasons are an exception. there absolutely is a misogyny problem among gay men and it often manifests in some of them refusing to try to bottom.
Like, strict tops and strict bottoms are such red flags.
It gives sexist heterosexual stereotypes.