My biggest mistake

NEETnayd March 6, 2017 7:44 am

...... I treat YoonBum as a victim at first. "Borderline personality disorder" makes sense'; It contributes of why he is not...........

Responses
    youraedthiswrogn March 6, 2017 5:13 am

    Be careful with how you word this though, some people might get the urge to point out that just because someone has borderline personality disorder doesn't mean they're pre-determined to be a killer. Personally, i think it's Bum specifically that's messed up and his BPD is just a part of all that.

    seungbabe March 6, 2017 5:59 am
    Be careful with how you word this though, some people might get the urge to point out that just because someone has borderline personality disorder doesn't mean they're pre-determined to be a killer. Personally... youraedthiswrogn

    Agreed!!

    Anoni Grrl March 7, 2017 1:55 am
    Be careful with how you word this though, some people might get the urge to point out that just because someone has borderline personality disorder doesn't mean they're pre-determined to be a killer. Personally... youraedthiswrogn

    Don't you think Sangwoo had anything at all to do with it? Do you think it would have happened eventually even without Sangwoo?

    youraedthiswrogn March 7, 2017 5:25 am
    Don't you think Sangwoo had anything at all to do with it? Do you think it would have happened eventually even without Sangwoo? Anoni Grrl

    I don't think Sangwoo had literally anything to do with Bum killing Jieun. Sangwoo didn't tell Bum to kill her, he just said "wanna start?" and pushed Bum off the chair in front of Jieun. Bum wasn't thinking of Sangwoo during the killing scene, he was completely focused on his past and killed Jieun because he was taking out his feelings for his first crush on her, if anything this scene is exactly what i said would happen. Take a look at the flashback in ch 19 and tell me that you don't think he could switch from just stalking the girl to killing her after she rejects him... If you honestly can, then take a look at the scene where he kills Jieun while lashing out against the other girl in his mind. This is Bum's true personality, he's just more low-key than Sangwoo. More low-key, but just as dangerous.

    Anoni Grrl March 7, 2017 6:03 am
    I don't think Sangwoo had literally anything to do with Bum killing Jieun. Sangwoo didn't tell Bum to kill her, he just said "wanna start?" and pushed Bum off the chair in front of Jieun. Bum wasn't thinking of... youraedthiswrogn

    Well, you are entitled to you opinion, and I saw the flashback and recognized the rage--but I also saw everything Sangwoo had been doing for a long time to push Bum to that point. Bum had been rejected by all of his past obsessions, and he was never violent before. Bum usually just stalked people. If you didn't see Sangwoo pulling strings to get Bum to take this path, I guess we'll just disagree.

    youraedthiswrogn March 7, 2017 6:17 am
    Well, you are entitled to you opinion, and I saw the flashback and recognized the rage--but I also saw everything Sangwoo had been doing for a long time to push Bum to that point. Bum had been rejected by all o... Anoni Grrl

    What did Sangwoo do to get Bum to kill Jieun? I realize he kept him captive and scared the shit out of him constantly, but can you point out a scene where he triggers Bum's trauma? What Sangwoo does to Bum and Bum's trauma with that girl are two seperate things and its clear to me that Bum was acting on his trauma when he killed Jieun, not his fear of Sangwoo. Also, to say that Bum was "rejected by all his past obsessions and was never violent before" doesn't make sense as the only obsessions we've seen so far are the girl and Sangwoo, what are you basing this statement off of? If we're going off of the only two instances we've seen then if anything it further proves my point, this is only his second obsession and he's already been damaged enough from the first one to kill a girl. How was he NOT violent with the first girl? He screamed at her after she said "next time". I'm not saying that Sangwoo has no effect on Bum, i'm just saying that that and this are two seperate things, it makes no sense to act like Sangwoo is the reason for Bum doing the things he does as it's all just Bum being Bum.

    youraedthiswrogn March 7, 2017 6:31 am
    Well, you are entitled to you opinion, and I saw the flashback and recognized the rage--but I also saw everything Sangwoo had been doing for a long time to push Bum to that point. Bum had been rejected by all o... Anoni Grrl

    In your defense, him screaming at her isn't "violent" it's aggressive, so if you want an example of him being violent towards her read ch 19 pg 68-74 where he is responding to the girl telling him to die. Those pages show how hurt he was by what she said and him stabbing Jieun IS him being violent towards that girl, make no mistake, Bum IS stabbing the girl, it just so happens that she isn't the physical body he is stabbing.

    Jaz March 7, 2017 7:02 am
    What did Sangwoo do to get Bum to kill Jieun? I realize he kept him captive and scared the shit out of him constantly, but can you point out a scene where he triggers Bum's trauma? What Sangwoo does to Bum and ... youraedthiswrogn

    I'm pretty sure I had this same debate with you a few weeks ago. I gave the same reasons Anoni is giving now and you decided to agree to disagree there.
    The basis for his past rejection is shown in chapter 1, pages 12 to 14 here. It shows 4 different instances of people responding to his stalking. 2 of the 4 were very hostile.

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 11:18 am
    Be careful with how you word this though, some people might get the urge to point out that just because someone has borderline personality disorder doesn't mean they're pre-determined to be a killer. Personally... youraedthiswrogn

    Did correct my comment and yeah that was what i am implying

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 12:13 pm
    Be careful with how you word this though, some people might get the urge to point out that just because someone has borderline personality disorder doesn't mean they're pre-determined to be a killer. Personally... youraedthiswrogn

    Well your comment already take an effect... Someone did already correct me that i am stupid to connect the bpd with a fictional character that lead him to kill someone... And i am generalizing real people...

    This fandom is too sensitive

    Anoni Grrl March 7, 2017 1:18 pm
    Well your comment already take an effect... Someone did already correct me that i am stupid to connect the bpd with a fictional character that lead him to kill someone... And i am generalizing real people... Th... NEETnayd

    When did that happen? So far, we've been discussing the way the story portrayed Bum and Sangwoo. You two are the only ones in this thread bringing in real life at the moment.

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 1:21 pm
    When did that happen? So far, we've been discussing the way the story portrayed Bum and Sangwoo. You two are the only ones in this thread bringing in real life at the moment. Anoni Grrl

    No.... It was on the other comment section not here... Sorry about that.... I was surfing at my mobile phone so i cannot give to you the link...

    Anoni Grrl March 7, 2017 1:24 pm
    No.... It was on the other comment section not here... Sorry about that.... I was surfing at my mobile phone so i cannot give to you the link... NEETnayd

    Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to get all defensive :)

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 1:29 pm
    Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to get all defensive :) Anoni Grrl

    It is alright...
    Here are the comment threads.. actually there are two

    http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/1658658/
    http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/1652991/

    they are making a huge deal with it....

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 1:36 pm
    It is alright...Here are the comment threads.. actually there are twohttp://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/1658658/http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/1652991/they are making a huge deal with it.... NEETnayd

    I may be stupid as they say but correlating this fictional story with reality is not totally cool.... i am not that dumb enough...

    Anoni Grrl March 7, 2017 1:39 pm
    I may be stupid as they say but correlating this fictional story with reality is not totally cool.... i am not that dumb enough... NEETnayd

    You are not stupid. I have a different interpretation of the character, but that doesn't make you stupid.

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 1:48 pm
    You are not stupid. I have a different interpretation of the character, but that doesn't make you stupid. Anoni Grrl

    Thank you so much!!! I was relieved someone understood me
    I was just talking about yoonbum's craziness that correlates the disorder in some way and some people sprung up like...

    your comment is stupid.
    go educate yourself,
    Real people who have BPD are not killers.
    and clearly one statement there give me an hint he saw YoonBUm in a different light.. That Anon always points to Sangwoo only..

    Like, why associate reality with this??? Is it that bad to make wild guesses about the character's behavior??

    Anonymous March 7, 2017 2:33 pm
    Thank you so much!!! I was relieved someone understood meI was just talking about yoonbum's craziness that correlates the disorder in some way and some people sprung up like... your comment is stupid. go educa... NEETnayd

    Oh wow, just saw this. Who knew, you were playing victim to other people? Anyway, you'll never separate reality from fiction, and vice versa. The other will always influence the other. The KS universe is based on reality, just by that fact itself, reality is integrated in KS. So... ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    NEETnayd March 7, 2017 2:47 pm
    Oh wow, just saw this. Who knew, you were playing victim to other people? Anyway, you'll never separate reality from fiction, and vice versa. The other will always influence the other. The KS universe is based ... @Anonymous

    KS might be inspired from the real world/ is based from the influence of the real world, it does not mean that they are connected with each other. The interpretation of the characters is based on how the author relays his passage to his readers, so the perception of the character must not be outside the box but inside, in this manga story the author wrote. I have learned that since before I hated KS but now, I have changed my mind.
    I agree with someone that connecting reality with fiction is illogical...

    Anonymous March 7, 2017 2:49 pm
    Oh wow, just saw this. Who knew, you were playing victim to other people? Anyway, you'll never separate reality from fiction, and vice versa. The other will always influence the other. The KS universe is based ... @Anonymous

    Why sre you so agressive to posters? People are entitled to have an opinion. Argue the aubstance of the discussion rather than attacking the person.