There's no right in single one of your comments, there's something right in your head. You're an absolutely idiot
Aren't you the Karen here though? You're being a hypocrite once again! I did try to engage with you properly but all you did was degrade me and kept telling how I'm this and that, you never proved me wrong or made one logical point that will make me give up. And it's Christmas vacation, there's no homework where I am, but it sucks that wherever you are, you still got school! Couldn't be me. How about you let me have the last word and we just both stop replying? Problem solved.
Even though a lot of BL is toxic and abusive there's also a lot of healthy BL's so they're
just generalizing. don't mind them, you're not a horrible person this person is just causing an issue for no reason. It's December 30th which is no holiday in my country I also believe it's the same for the other person that replied to one of their other comments yet they decided to be rude in the comments section by telling someone they're a sad miserable lonely creature just for even asking a simple question. Truly shows which one is the real horrible person here. Their og comment didn't really make sense either since josei and yaoi are 2 different genres with different audiences most of the time so the ones complaining about the pee or squirting would probably be ones that rarely read BL since it isn't very common for josei artists to add squirting compared to yaoi artists. I just hope you have a nice day lmao don't waste your time talking to them next time, they're too boring to talk to anyway.
It’s funny you say you tried to engage with them properly when the first thing you said to them was “stfu crybaby” that’s not exactly properly engaging with someone is it? You complain that all they were doing was degrading you but you are no better than them, you were doing the same exact thing. Also, no matter how hard you try to deny it, if you like BL, you’re fujoshi. And yes, you fetishize gay content. It’s just the truth. I understand that it’s hard to accept. Please get off your high horse acting like you’re superior to them. You claim that they are the one making assumptions, sure that could be true, but it’s hypocritical to say that since you were also doing the same thing…
Your words and I quote.
“ You're one of those homophobic dumbasses that sees one BL containing toxic themes and you go on the internet shitting on not only on other BL fictional stories, but on real life gay people.”
Is that not an assumption? lol.
Not only that but to say “Explains everything about your intelligence to not keep with up an argument ” when you don’t even have a valid argument is very amusing to me. I don’t know if you know about the rules of debate, but the moment you insult your opponent, you lose. It’s called Ad Hominem. You make a fair point that enjoying BL/GL content doesn't automatically equal fetishization. Many readers appreciate these stories for their narratives, character development, and representation. However, dismissing all straight romances as 'low quality' or 'cringe' falls into the same trap of harmful generalizations you're arguing against. Criticizing toxic themes in any story, regardless of the characters' orientations , is valid criticism. It's not inherently homophobic to point out problematic elements in BL content, just as critiquing a heterosexual romance isn't heterophobic. And hate to break it to you, but it is indeed true that BL manwha are rampant with the issues pointed out.
Again… You mention double standards, but there seems to be one in your own argument: You correctly state we shouldn't judge all gay manhwa by one problematic example, but then you broadly dismiss straight manhwa as 'cringe.' These kinds of sweeping generalizations work against your fundamental point about avoiding prejudice. Like what? Come on. You are the one who got mad at their comment and started attacking them first. Why are you mad when they come at you with the same energy you gave them first??? Treat others the way you want to be treated!
I am sorry to say this and I don’t even mean this as an insult, but you are just as much of a hypocrite as you claim them to be! Let’s all be civil here!
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Holy shit. Stfu, where the hell did you came from random? Nobody was talking to you and I can easily debunk all this random shit you're spitting at me right now. What a loser... anyways, I'm not wasting my time writing long ass paragraphs to a homophobic sticking up for another stupid ass homophobic, have the day you deserve.
True, I feel like I should've made that clear that there may be a lot of BL that is unfortunately toxic and abusive, but there's also a lot of healthy ones. Like for example, I paused this manga a long time ago, but Given is a good one. There's also 19 days (my favorite). I read a mix of healthy and non-healthy manga because I love reading stories that have different perspectives and experiences. I just read mostly non-healthy stuff because I'm interested in psychology and it helps me understand the complexities of human behavior and relationships, but I know there's people that read BL that fetishize those things and make people that read these types of things that don't look bad. But, yeah, some of the people hating on this don't even read BL at all. I don't think all of the hate here is because it's "straight". Shit, I remember this one BL story that had cringe stuff similar to this story and people, including myself, were also hating on it but not because it's gay. I really agree with you though and thank you for agreeing with me!
Well you do have a point
I am not a homophobe. And I’m not really defending them as much as I am refuting your points. And yes, I am a random but that doesn’t invalidate my perspective. This is a public forum, so if you can’t handle “randoms” refuting you, then maybe don’t say anything at all. You mention you could 'easily debunk' my points, but choosing to dismiss them with labels and personal attacks instead suggests otherwise. If my reasoning is flawed, I'd genuinely be interested in hearing why. Labeling anyone who disagrees with you as 'homophobic' without engaging with their actual arguments weakens your position. Defending fair criticism of individual works isn't the same as defending homophobia.
If you block them, they won’t be able to respond to your comment anymore lol. Just click on their profile and scroll down.
Your behavior shows a striking double standard. When someone agrees with you, you're capable of nuanced discussion, acknowledging complexities, and having respectful dialogue. Yet when someone expresses a different perspective, even a simple preference for straight romances, you immediately resort to hostile language and accusations of homophobia. Having a personal preference for straight romance isn't homophobic. Just as you read BL because you connect with those stories and find them psychologically interesting, others might prefer straight romances because they relate to the female lead's perspective and enjoy experiencing romantic scenarios that align with their orientation. A straight reader wanting to imagine themselves in the FL's shoes while the ML shows affection is no different from any other reader choosing content that resonates with their personal experiences and desires. You eloquently defended how reading certain BL content doesn't automatically mean fetishization or endorsement of toxic themes. Why not extend that same understanding to readers of straight romance? Just as you said about BL : 'I just read mostly non-healthy stuff because I'm interested in psychology' - others, including me, might have their own valid reasons for their reading preferences that have nothing to do with prejudice.
sorry to butt myself into this when i wasn't even apart of the convo to start with but i wasn't really agreeing nor disagreeing with them i just didn't exactly like the op since they seemed really douchy to someone (in a different comment) for asking a simple question (in a different comment on this manhwa) and their og comment didn't fully make sense to me since BL and Straight Love have different audiences so of course some people here wouldn't be used to seeing squirting in manhwa (saying this as an avid reader of both) and not to defend them, but I think the responder from earlier was just being overly defensive because the op's comment was a little aggressive so they could've misinterpreted as them trying to be homophobic even of they weren't since a lot of us in the community face similar comments that are actually meant to be derogatory towards queer people. I'm not on anyone's side, I just thought I'd bring a 3rd perspective into this (or 4th lol)
No, you make sense and I agree with you. They are being overly defensive.
Nothing to be sorry for.
Holy shit, hop off my dick, I am not reading all that! How are you that mad that I won't engage with you? Stfu already.
So obsessed for no reason, literally on my dick. Be quiet bro please.
They literally agreed with most of my points fucking dipshit. Acting like they were arguing with me! Pay me 100 bucks right and we can argue all day! You're gonna have to give me money if you wanna argue about this shit! I literally ended the argument and you stepping in like a white knight, shut up.
Your enthusiasm for avoiding long responses is admirable, so let me keep this brief:
You engaged thoughtfully with a 200-word response about BL manga earlier, so we both know reading comprehension isn't the issue here. The real question is - Why respond aggressively to those who disagree while showing you're capable of nuanced discussion with those who agree? That kind of selective engagement suggests you might be more interested in confirming your biases than having genuine conversation. If you truly aren't interested in engaging, there's a simpler solution than telling others to 'hop off' - you could just not respond.
Everytime a straight manwha is in here, everyone is ready to diss it but if it's homosexuals suddenly it's good the way these people defend homosexual. So what if there's piss, if it's gay, you would think it's hot. You guys are twistee