Can you guys please stop with the spoilers?

DO the translators care if people post spoilers? I mean, why would they? It's not like people are going to stop reading because of spoilers... I don't think there is anything wrong with posting spoilers as long as, like you said, they leave a warning. If they're just leaving spoilers without any warning, basically bating people into spoiling themselves, THEN i could see the spoilers being disrespectful to the readers, but spoilers themselves aren't disrespectful... As far as the warning, I don't see the need to put all those spaces though, all they should do is put spoilers as the topic that way people can just NOT read the body once they see the topic is about spoilers.

I also don't see why the translators would care, but I totally support the Spoiler Warning with adequate spaces so the spoiler doesn't show up without a "click" on the plus/more sign.

I don't know about this translator in particular but I have seen other translators finding it rude because they were uploading chapters pretty quickly and giving up on their translation because we could find it somewhere else. I just didn't want this translator to feel that way and stop because I really like their translations. But yeah, I can't speak for them, I was trying to do damage control just in case it got worse lol

And the thing about putting "spoiler" in the topic is that sometimes my eyes just skip over the title and read the post directly so it was just a plea to make it so that I had to choose whether I wanted to see it or not. Again, that's my fault in a way and I will read the story regardless but still, I would like to not see spoilers right in front of my face, ya feel?

I agree with this. I see no harm in adding a few spaces to prevent unwanted spoilers. The spoilers would still be there for people who want it and it would be almost completely covered for people who don't. Everyone wins.

Not to be an ass, but if your eyes "skip over the title" then it is on you for not paying attention, right? The topic is there for a reason, to tell what the person is talking about. It is important. Obviously there're times when people don't fill out the topic, but that has never stopped ME from reading the topics rather than the bodies while going through the comments. Personally, i've NEVER run into a translator that minded spoilers, but if i did i'd ask them why they care. For every person reading ahead, there is at least two more people who don't know where to find the other translations and are waiting for these ones anyways. Not just that, but i've seen quite a few translations taken down because the translator got caught because their translations were broadcast across the comments section, so even IF someone goes out of their way to translate, there isn't any guarantee it'll be there for long.

Yes, it wouldn't hurt to do this, just to go the extra mile. I just don't think it is necessary. If people read the title they won't read the body after realizing it is about spoilers.

It may not be necessary but it should be taken into consideration when this happens all the time, not only here but in other discussions too, and people always get upset about it. I really don't think pressing the return key a couple of times is something to complain about, it takes such little effort. It's easier to press enter a few times than it is to make other people more observant of the titles.

I don't think there are translations somewhere else. The raws I see put here are in non-English languages or it's people who read those languages posting stuff or it's folks who saw the raws and GUESSED what was going on via the art, not the dialogue.

If the translators come here and say stop--everyone should respect that. If they don't, it's not an issue.

Yes, but my point is that if people would read the topics it wouldn't be a problem in the first place... the reason it "happens all the time" is because people aren't putting in any effort on their end to read the entirety of the post and are then complaining about spoilers because they didn't read the topic, which is their own fault. It doesn't matter what is in the body of the comment or how it is written, it could be in cursive, it woudn't matter. If people would just read the topic and notice it is about spoilers and just move on there wouldn't be any problems.

If people would press enter a few times there also would not be any problems. I don't understand why you are so against the suggestion.

I didn't say i was... Don't make this out to be more than it is. I'm just responding to what you're saying with what i think. I even said "they could do this, to go the extra mile"... All i'm saying is that the obvious solution to this is to put spoilers in the topic and for people to not be lazy about reading the topic and then blame the commenter for their own slip up.

It's easier to press enter a few times than it is to make other people more observant of the titles.

^^this

It's easier to just put "spoilers" in the topic than to put it in the body of the comment followed by a series of lines... Nobody said anything about making people be more observant, just that if you put spoilers in the title and people don't notice it that its on them and they should stop acting like it is the commenter's fault when they did give a warning. I feel like i've already got my point across as its just sheer logic, feel free and disagree, i won't really mind.

I'll point you to my response to Jaz as they took what i said and misconstrued it. I wasn't saying making people more observant is the easier option, what i was saying is easier is to put "spoilers" in the topic rather than putting it in the body and applying a series of spaces... Are you going to argue that simply writing "spoilers" in the topic takes more effort than writing the same thing in the body AND adding spaces? They were just reaching...

Courtesy isn't about easier. It's about taking a little extra pains for other people. We asked they do it for COURTESY's sake, not convenience/easy-does-it's sake.

Lol, what we had been talking about is what is the easiest way to be courteous...

Look, if you're okay with just having it in the subject header. Yay. Good for you. Other folks are asking for what takes less than 3 seconds--a simple courtesy. Doesn't mean anyone HAS to do it, but it's hardly asking for people to give up much to do it.

That is clearly not a working solution to the problem when people are still getting upset about it. Telling people "don't get upset" isn't going to work either. It is not logical to continue to do something that is making people upset.

I never said anyone has to do it either way, this wasn't originally an argument you know. I was just saying it takes less effort on everyone's part to just put it in the topic.