Can you guys please stop with the spoilers?

idk May 9, 2017 10:16 pm

Can you guys please stop with the spoilers? Not only is this annoying to readers, it is also disrespectful to the translator. They are working hard to provide us with translations EVERY SINGLE DAY and are asking for nothing in return. So, again, I beg you: don't post spoilers on here and if you must, give us a warning and write after leaving some space so that we don't have to read it if we don't want to.

Responses
    manganiME May 10, 2017 2:00 am
    I never said anyone has to do it either way, this wasn't originally an argument you know. I was just saying it takes less effort on everyone's part to just put it in the topic. youraedthiswrogn

    If you put it in the body--it shows up in the topic. So, really, just putting SPOILER WARNING in the body and then hit the space a few times...two seconds of time to make people happy.

    manganiME May 10, 2017 2:02 am
    That is clearly not a working solution to the problem when people are still getting upset about it. Telling people "don't get upset" isn't going to work either. It is not logical to continue to do something tha... Jaz

    Yeah, the problem is you can't edit here. I wish this had an edit function (at least, I don't see one), then it can be fixed when someone types hurriedly and forgets to do the spoiler spacings. (Been there, done that).

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 2:09 am
    That is clearly not a working solution to the problem when people are still getting upset about it. Telling people "don't get upset" isn't going to work either. It is not logical to continue to do something tha... Jaz

    You're still just taking what i'm saying and warping it. Here is what i am saying: Putting "spoilers" in the topic takes less effort than putting the same exact text in the body AND adding spaces. Are you trying to argue that it'd take less time to write the same thing in a different place AND add spaces on top? I also never said saying "don't get upset" is a solution... What i said was that if someone fails to read the topic and spoils themselves its on them for overlooking a key part of the comment...

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 2:13 am
    If you put it in the body--it shows up in the topic. So, really, just putting SPOILER WARNING in the body and then hit the space a few times...two seconds of time to make people happy. manganiME

    This isn't what we're talking about, i've already acknowledged that you could do this if you want. You're just talking about things on your own... What Jazz and i had been arguing about is what is the easiest way to be considerate of the readers. I said to just put "spoilers" in the title, Jazz said to put "spoilers" in the body and then add spaces underneath. The "easiest" way to do this is obviously what i said as adding the spaces takes extra time and if the person reading the comment happens to "skip over" the topic, then that is on them. Jazz is basically arguing that adding the same text AND adding spaces to that is somehow quicker than just adding "spoilers" to the topic, which i've been saying is just logically not easier as their suggestion takes more time and effort.

    Jaz May 10, 2017 2:30 am
    You're still just taking what i'm saying and warping it. Here is what i am saying: Putting "spoilers" in the topic takes less effort than putting the same exact text in the body AND adding spaces. Are you tryin... youraedthiswrogn

    All my comments have been about using spaces between spoilers as a solution to the problem of unwanted spoilers. When I said "It's easier to press enter a few times than it is to make other people more observant of the titles." I meant that pressing enter is an easier solution to use to fix it than soley naming the topic and expecting people to see it because that has not worked for solving the problem. The time and effort is takes to press enter a few times is negligible.

    Mangago does have an edit feature for topics.

    Jaz May 10, 2017 2:31 am
    All my comments have been about using spaces between spoilers as a solution to the problem of unwanted spoilers. When I said "It's easier to press enter a few times than it is to make other people more observan... Jaz

    I meant to reply that last sentence to a different comment.

    Jaz May 10, 2017 2:33 am
    Yeah, the problem is you can't edit here. I wish this had an edit function (at least, I don't see one), then it can be fixed when someone types hurriedly and forgets to do the spoiler spacings. (Been there, don... manganiME

    Mangago does have an edit feature for topics. It's unfortunate there's not one for comments too.

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 2:58 am
    All my comments have been about using spaces between spoilers as a solution to the problem of unwanted spoilers. When I said "It's easier to press enter a few times than it is to make other people more observan... Jaz

    It hasn't worked for SOME people, but i don't see ALL that many complaints. Usually. On this comments section it seems like there're quite a few complaining about spoiler, though how many of those comments had "spoilers" in the topic is another matter entirely. You're saying it "hasn't been working" without really basing that on anything.

    idk May 10, 2017 3:14 am

    Whew, my dudes. When I mean "skip over" I mean that the comments are literally in my face. I don't have a choice about whether to read it or not and I would like to have that. And I do like to read comments so I was merely asking people to just put in a few spaces when discussing spoilers.

    SPOILER









    See? Didn't even take that long, about 3 seconds.

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 3:21 am
    Whew, my dudes. When I mean "skip over" I mean that the comments are literally in my face. I don't have a choice about whether to read it or not and I would like to have that. And I do like to read comments so ... idk

    I'm just using "skip over" because you gave me the terminology and i haven't taken the time to think of another way of saying it, I'm not talking about you. I'm not arguing the effectiveness or how quick it'd be to write the spoiler warning in the body, just acknowledging that commenters should be able to write "spoiler" in the topic without some guy who didn't read the topic saying "warning next time?".

    Jaz May 10, 2017 3:46 am
    It hasn't worked for SOME people, but i don't see ALL that many complaints. Usually. On this comments section it seems like there're quite a few complaining about spoiler, though how many of those comments had ... youraedthiswrogn

    People have very similar complaints to comments with only spoiler in the topic and comments without any warning and a spoiler. Whereas people rarely get mad about unwanted spoilers when there's a warning and space. There's no statistics to back this claim, it's just based upon personal observations of the comments section of Mangago.

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 3:50 am
    People have very similar complaints to comments with only spoiler in the topic and comments without any warning and a spoiler. Whereas people rarely get mad about unwanted spoilers when there's a warning and s... Jaz

    Okay. There're also people who read the topic, ones who use the text boxes the way they're supposed to be used, who don't have any issues with the body text because they read the topic and moved on. Also from personal experience, i am one of these people. I read the topic.

    Jaz May 10, 2017 11:27 am
    Okay. There're also people who read the topic, ones who use the text boxes the way they're supposed to be used, who don't have any issues with the body text because they read the topic and moved on. Also from p... youraedthiswrogn

    I'm aware of that but there's still people complaining. It's good it works for you and a few others but everyone is not like that. Pressing enter a few times, which we have already established isn't a tedious process, works for more people.
    I don't feel like explaining this any further because there's really no point. If you don't understand why I believe pressing enter is a better solution by now, then I don't think you will.

    youraedthiswrogn May 10, 2017 11:05 pm
    I'm aware of that but there's still people complaining. It's good it works for you and a few others but everyone is not like that. Pressing enter a few times, which we have already established isn't a tedious p... Jaz

    Why're you convinced that more people don't look at the topic than do? Of course you're going to see comments saying that they didn't see the topic, but you aren't going to see any that say they had no problems avoiding the spoiler, if they had no problems they'll just move on. The only comments you're going to see are the people complaining. It doesn't really matter, both ways would work.

    manganiME May 11, 2017 11:56 am
    Why're you convinced that more people don't look at the topic than do? Of course you're going to see comments saying that they didn't see the topic, but you aren't going to see any that say they had no problems... youraedthiswrogn

    The request isn't for folks who had no problems. :D The request is for those who do. So, your point?

    youraedthiswrogn May 13, 2017 3:03 am
    The request isn't for folks who had no problems. :D The request is for those who do. So, your point? manganiME

    My point was that Jazz was trying to back their opinion that more people skip the topic than read it by saying that they see a lot of comments with this issue, i was rebuttling by pointing out that people who DON'T have that issue wouldn't leave a comment because they'd just move on. In other words, there could be just as many, if not more, people who read the topic if you consider the small number of complaint comments on the subject compared to the number of people who frequent this site.