You’re right and you should say that.
You’re right and you should say that.
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Girl, sorry about these extra replies, I don’t know what’s going on w/ my tablet, but omg.
I accidentally replied to myself, but this was for you: sorry about the extra messages, my tablet is a mess, and clear,y it’s time for me to get off this site lmao
I’m not saying it’s okay as in it’s okay morally. It’s okay from a story POV and that two sides aren’t completely blameless in this situation. We see, for a fact, that Nanjo is completely wrong about his believes about Seonhwa. He is being a bit dumb and naive and that’s okay with me since I wanna see him grow as a character. Anyways, you shouldn’t be on a porn site anyways if you’re not at the age where you can’t identify a toxic relationship when you see one. And I said I love Monkyeon as a character and not as a person for obvious reasons. I hope you understand.
Understandable. I just wanted to point out that this isn’t a black and white situation. And yeah, I think Monkyeon himself acknowledges that he’s being a piece of shit and the story itself kind of also points this out. I mean it’s not like Nanjo is falling for him even after Nanjo’s body started to react to the sex. This is a compelling story and it works better at the perspective of viewing it in various shades of gray rather than anything.
“It's not a forum for policing people's thoughts and ideas.“ you’re literally so silly please reread your own comment. That’s why there’s 3 people who replied to you. You sound arrogant and pretentious
No one said it’s not okay but Tima’s interpretation does paint Nanjo (the victim) in a way that is COMPLETELY victim blamey (at least it did the way i read it)
This is not really a p*rn site (even if there is sooo much porny stuff right on the home page) but yeah I agree, too young people shouldn't be there. However, when I think about "young", I don't particularly think about 12 yo people but more like 20 yo. This is young, this is the age where you have a sex life but this also is the age where you can be more manipulated because yet too naive and inexperienced. Brain is not even fully developed yet.
Also, I agree this is okay to depict a manipulative character. We are not on Care Bears Land and that's precisely what I like about mangas from last years, they're more modern and realistic! What's not okay is trying to stand up for blond hair (I just can't remember or write his name ), saying he's not manipulative and dismiss reality.
And let's not even talk about victim blaming like @softylily say, the last thing okay here.
Anyway. Tima speech is dangerous and it's a collective responsability to say it, show it and not let it pass. Because young people identify them self and fantasize about those "love story". That's all I wanted to do initially
Haha no problem! You make me laugh and that's a good thing
Daddy chill
I mean, I agreed with you, not sure why you replied that to me but yes, she was very "victim blamey", to say the least.
I don't post here to have my opinions and thoughts policed by random strangers. Calypso insulted me and when I pushed back I'm the problem. The moment they saw I wouldn't agree with them they could have moved along. When I say post pandemic readers don't have comprehension skills I don't just mean inability to understand the story as it is I also mean the inability to understand that other readers will have diverse opinions and that's fine. Y'all can't even acknowledge that. When was thinking like everyone else a flex?? There is beauty in diversity of thought and just because you don't agree with it doesn't give you permission to smother others with how you interpret things. I've not forced anyone to think like me. I said what I said and you interpreted how you wanted which ain't a me problem. Just so you know I didn't start this. It's some of the goons in the comments. I don't often partake in these arguments but calling me 12 and insinuating I'm stupid ain't going to slide with me.I like posting to see if there are other like minded people who think the same. I could care less about the people who disagree with me. You are not the target audience. I am allowed to have my own thoughts and protect them from dilution. To me nanjo is a grown man in a position to choose better. If he really wasn't on some freaky shit he'd be the one to protect his relationship with redhead. Y'all saying he's a victim when he's consciously choosing to cheat(micro cheating)is wild. By some of that logic it's better to fuck your opp than have a conversation with your love one. It's ridiculous. He didn't think through this properly and that's on him. I don't know why stupidity and idiocy is so protected by readers when it comes to bottoms?? Imagine saying you understand the stupidity of a character and you see nothing wrong with that. But am the bad guy for not trying to make being dumb fetch? Okay at least I've seen the things y'all cheer for so your boos really do nothing for me. I think I've vented enough. I hope some dumbass doesn't say ' yOu woUdn'T be posting all this if you didn't care." It's old do better. Thanks for the updates they mean a lot. Bye.
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sorry i think i replied to the wrong person
ok u still don’t understand how ur original comment sounded and that’s okay! have a good one i think we all know this conversation is over. you can’t fix hypocrisy
LMFAOO
I’m not reading all of that, you didn’t even depart your paragraphs babe. Bye.
You are right about manipulation.
But the thing is Nanjo really being manipulated here?
First red head tries to manipulate him by showing he is some kind of poor guy with nothing and recieves gifts.
Second, blondie says he'll have sex, and Nanjo without even talking to red head agrees, is he really that naive? There's a fault in writing because like Nanjo is not supposed to be that naive of a character with how he is displayed.
So we don't know until we go later into the story.
And also I hope you don't think he was raped? Because I don't think that was rape, because consent was present and it hurting is something that might happen.
Don't attack me I'm just saying
That study that showed post pandemic literacy levels are abysmal is so true and this fandom and other bl fandoms should already be case studies. I don't know where critical thinking skills disappeared to when it comes to reading even if it's porn fiction.Most readers don't even read in between the lines anymore. Y'all like parroting terms like manipulation to look like you understand what you are reading when most of you don't do research on the shit. I swear I bet none of you have psychology degrees to back your shit up with years of intelligence. Y'all don't even look up stuff you just say it na hope it sticks.
My question is how is nanjo being manipulated by blondie?? Manipulation always requires a power dynamic of sorts. And bfr someone even says it just because nanjo's a bottom that doesn't mean he doesn't have power let's get that out of the way. The blondie made a deal as a joke and guy just accepted it. He says he likes the redhead but how can you say yes to your cheeks being pounded to 'protect' your beloved?Even if they ain't dating isn't that micro cheating?? Y'all are obsessed with bottoms being victims that you'll pull anything out of y'all's asses. Nanjo is a grown man that could have said no especially to a man he doesn't even like. He wasn't held at gun point. He wasn't coerced. He wasn't even tricked he just accepted a very ridiculous deal and y'all are acting like that's blondies fault. You say blondie is manipulative but don't say red head is manipulative for telling him to have a threesome he didn't want? Is manipulation only applicable when nanjo's the one being penetrated? Manipulation involves power plays, how is the blondie exerting power on nanjo when nanjo can always do what he wants??? Y'all just can't admit that bottoms like him are just stupid.
Blondie has a crush on nanjo. He was being playful and even he thought he'd be shot down when he made that deal so how is he being manipulative???
Another thing y'all need to stop learning about sex from porn. Saying nanjo is being raped is wild. We know he's never bottomed so why would y'all think it wouldn't be uncomfortable even when consent is given?? Penetrative sex for the first time ranges from uncomfortable to pain oftentimes depending on the receivers ability to relax. Nanjo is not relaxed at all through this and it's not blondies or his fault. His body is not used to getting dicked down yet and that's just normal first time things. Penetrative sex is a process tbh it takes time for the body to adjust just like so many things. Also the heteronormative sex positions for the first time in most BLS ain't it. For anal sex spreading your legs is really for the pros. For beginners the legs need to be closed so that the anal muscles can be stretched and open up the hole more so it's less painful during penetration. Doing missionary on an anal beginner is just terrible but that's the creators fault and all other bl creators for their lack luster interpretation of homo sex.
I know I'm about to be called a rape apologist and told to kill myself for thinking like this but do with this information what you may.