What's up with the comment section? Why did someone insinuate that the author's a criminal...

For me personally that's 50/50 (TA) i myself have been SAd and I know there's different survivors so I will never understand other SA survivors SO I cant really give you a straight forward answer

For me personally that's 50/50 (TA) i myself have been SAd and I know there's different survivors so I will never understand other SA survivors SO I cant really give you a straight forward answer

Their is no difference. You're just lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about jerking off on rape drawings and participating in rape culture, which is what allows rapist to be rapist and facing no consequences

You are a rape apologist

"It's not my faukt bc it's made to be enjoyable".

If you find a man getting betten up and raped to the point of passing out, being ripped out and awakening in a bed full of blod "enjoyable" we got a serious problem

The huge difference is that cnc is CONSENSUAL. It's a play. Rape is rape, play is play. Consent is the key

Ok bro I guess I am a rape apologist, but you didn’t answer my other questions

Ehhh bro i don't think that's something you should be admitting.

A rape apologist is someone who excuses, minimizes, justifies, or deflects responsibility from perpetrators of sexual violence.

“For me personally that's 50/50 (TA) i myself have been SAd and I know there's different survivors so I will never understand other SA survivors SO I cant really give you a straight forward answer.”

—Okay that’s valid, I guess what I’m trying to ask is; Is it making sense to call a victim a rape apologist? Someone who’s just coping.

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The entire "cnc and rape kink is a way to cope" is an illusion directly coming from rape culture. It doesn't help you heal, it's quite the opposite. Your brain just begins to believe that what happened is not that big of a deal. Without realising it you're beginning to fell like being rape/SA was not that bad.

On short terms it can help, but it's like putting tape to hold a bridge breaking down. In long terms, it's highly harming, and lead you to ignore the signs, ignore your bodily integrity, and deny your right to consent

Reading about rape to cope is a myth that advantages only one type of people: rapist. By making already vulnerable and traumatised people belive that normalising rape, they will heal, only makes them even more able to rape and to coerce you into thinking that "it's not THAT bad"

The best way to effectively heal in a psychological meaning, is to find a safe place. You don't heal a wound by cutting it even wider. You heal it with patience, care and love. The stories that will heal you are the one remembering you that you deserve consent, care, love and softness

Okay that’s valid, I guess what I’m trying to ask is; Is it making sense to call a victim a rape apologist? Someone who’s just coping.


For me, I'm accepting, if you're not, you're not. If you are...then ermmm that's a very interesting take.
To be fair, you can't really pinpoint.Who's a victim and who isn't i mean I get that if you do, try to point it out, you'll possibly point out a victim. It's either you take the risk or you don't ,for me I sadly, do Take the risk. If they tell me and disagree with me and they r a victim, then I let it go. I won't drag it on.

You can be a victim AND an agressor. It often happens. Some agressor also rape to cope with their own trauma. It doesn't make it okay.

As i said, the entire "read about violent rape to cope with your own experience" is a myth coming from rape culture. Studies proves it : by doing so, you're not healing. You don't stop feeling pain bc you're healing. You stop feeling pain bc you're slowly denying your own bodily autonomie and the importance of consent without realising it.

Healing is long. But "healing" by being an actor of rape culture, the culture which allows the number of victims to increase more and more, is not a solution. Although your not responsible for rapist behaviour, you're responsible for your own (and i mean supporting rape culture). Supports victims, stand against this culture. Don't become an accomplice of what traumatised you

Okay, valid. I just feel like this all started with a very nasty accusation and we don’t even know each other (not started with you but the one you agreed with), quite interesting take. I simply applied the same logic they made, although they later claimed they never said it, I copied and pasted their words.

I feel like this whole argument has their own takes, but to accuse of something like this is just downright nasty. Like you said, you can’t pinpoint who’s a victim.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE VICTIM BLAME

Girl, when you "copied passed" you literally missed an entire part of my sentence

I said "just saying that reading bl= rape apologist speaks a lot about your view on gay people and relationship" (literally meaning that this is a stupid take)

And you even felt the need to lie by saying that this shitty story was on my reading list (which is not). The entire argument is me telling you how you're an actor of rape culture, and you saying that it's okay bc you have a kink

Did you even read tf. Where did i victim blame

“Reading about rape to cope is a myth that advantages only one type of people: rapist. By making already vulnerable and traumatised people belive that normalising rape, they will heal, only makes them even more able to rape and to coerce you into thinking that "it's not THAT bad"”

Oh this actually reminds me of something else where predators would read the novel Lolita to minors to make their relationship seem normal and okay.

I actually really appreciate your comment. I’m not a rape victim so I don’t read rape fiction to cope with any trauma, but more so to cope with my own desires.

I don’t think reading rape is a good coping mechanism. Tbh I was actually thinking of getting in contact with a therapist tomorrow to consult them about my strange fetishes and what to do with them.

I don’t know if rape manwha has necessarily affected me mentally, like wanting to commit rape or wanting to be raped. But it has damaged my emotional health and made me focus less on the importance on consent whenever I contemplated what kind of romantic/sexual relationships I wanted.

I think that’s all the more reason to actually talk to a professional to sort things out.

I think it would be best for a person who had been SA’d to also get professional help instead of resorting to rape fiction.

It's literally the opposite girl. Try using your 2 lasting braincels even thought i know they too busy fighting for the 3rd place.

I'm literally saying how rape culture use victim and their vulnerability and trauma to make them believing they will heal by being an actor of rape culture.

Victims are Victims. But that also can be perpetrator, it's not a stoic and unchangeable thing. My take is literally, even though it's easy to be fooled, don't let rapist win by making you an accomplice without realising it. It's literally blaming it on rape culture and rapist, not on victims

Dont be me man dont fall for the rage bait;(

Accomplice is insane. Me coping doesn’t mean I support rape happening in reality.

You came in here telling them to hurt themselves and then the second one of them might be a survivor you realize how bad this made you look and are now transitioning into a “omg pweese choose peace and love and cope in a way I find morally acceptable” stance. Your attitude that survivors who read noncon or want to use kink to empower themselves are just stupid puppets of the patriarchy or whatever is inherent victim blaming. Talk about patronizing. Go sit in the middle of the road!