Beware of these rape enablers who act as if it's okay to love rape just because they are fully grown ass incel

These are the kind of bitches that you are agreeing to rn

https://www.mangago.zone/thing/about/847660/

Be better :|

I'm not embarrassing myself to begin with. Also I don't think you understand what enabling means. According to Merriam-Webster, enable means "to provide with means or opportunity", among others. Nothing about reading rape in a fictional setting is giving people the power to rape real life people.

You can romanticize anything in fiction. Murder is romanticized probably more than rape, but I don't see people screaming and crying about that. It's only because rape is sexual in nature that anyone has a problem with it. When you say "vulnerable" I'm assuming you are talking about minors. If you are reading adult porn as someone under the age of consent, then you don't have the right to say anything because the stories are not meant for you.

And yes, what you are doing is "kink-shaming". People write fiction to explore themselves. No one is saying that you have to read what they write. And whoever said kink is private is definitely not someone who has experienced the world outside their computer.

I would hope that people whose favorite series that have dark adult themes like violence, rape, etc. are you know....adult enough to be able to make the separation besides fiction and reality, which you seem incapable of doing. Just because a story has 20 rape scenes doesn't mean the reader will go out and think that rape has no consequences and act on them....because the normal everyday person knows that simply isn't true.

Your naïveté and little understanding of the world and how humanity operates is showing. Talk to and interact with people outside of your echo chamber.

Are you a cfucking clown? Because t’s laughable how hard you try to sound educated while defending fiction that glorifies rape under the guise of “exploring kinks,” as if pulling out a dictionary definition of “enable” suddenly absolves you of promoting violent, dehumanizing content You’re not making a case for freedom, you’re just desperate to protect a fetish at the expense of empathy and basic decency ANDDD Your murder comparison falls flat too and fucking outright STUPID AS FUCK, because unlike rape, murder isn’t routinely EROTICIZED, EXCUSED, or inflicted on real people only to be invalidated by people like you claiming “iTs JuSt FicTioN" And let’s be honest frs thattelling minors to stay silent proves that you care more about defending rape fantasies than protecting actual vulnerable readers. If calling that out makes me a “kink-shamer,” so be it then tf? because at least I’m not bending over backwards to romanticize abuse and call it “literary freedom", y'all are sooooooo soooo out of it please seek immediate help

And what's even worse if if you're a woman, defending rape shit and calling it fiction knowing damn well how Women are oftenly, or MOST OF THE TIME are victims of rape

Be fuckingggg betttterrrrrr puhleaseee stop embarassing yourself on GOD

Instead of engaging in what? Calling people out for the content they choose to enjoy? These stories are glamorizing rape, sexual violence, whatever. Because the normal ass person knows these things are wrong. And yeah, it is purity and pro-censorship because you are trying to force people to conform to your beliefs, even though if that's not what your intention is. Your ultimate goal sure seems to be "lets get rape out of stories because if you enjoy it it makes you a bad person irl". You shame people and call them names because they happen to enjoy adult themes. The reason we say "it's just fiction" because it *is just fiction*. Like I said, the normal adult person, a majority of the population, knows sexual violence is bad. Because they read it in something like a comic and enjoy the dark themes of it isn't switching a flip in their brain being like "oh actually what I thought to be bad is actually a good thing and will have 0 consequences". Because, you know, people have the mental capacity to differentiate between fact and fiction.

No one is mocking anyone who finds it harmful. 99% of people *agree* that real life sexual violence is harmful. What people have a problem with is the fact that you purity culture warriors are going out of your way to berate and attack anyone who doesn't like a "relationship full of happiness and communication" in terms of fiction.

I do really enjoy dark content actually. I've never once tried to hide it, that's why I'm defending the fact that people are allowed to enjoy what they want in the subject of fiction. I'm defending people's freedom to choose their interests, something that you seem highly against. I love cannibalism in fiction. I'm not going to go out there and eat people. Why? Because I'm not some idiot who *actually* wants to eat people.

"Creepy ass adults" lol, you mean adults who are able to know that "hey fictional rape is different then irl rape, which irl rape is bad". Then are you in for a surprise once you become an adult lol.

You missed the fucking point, Creepy ass Grown assAdult. I'm tired of you creeps roaming around this community and flaunting your pride in Loving rape shit

Because What’s actually “creepy” isn’t someone pointing out the harm in glamorizing rape, it’s actually creepy bitch ass adults like you, proudly defending it under the guise of FICTION and claiming it’s normal because you can separate fantasy from reality (Because you're an adult??? how the fuck does that validate your responses exactly?? Because so far it makes you look like a whole ass circus) The fact that you feel the need to remind everyone you're not out committing crimes doesn’t make your obsession with rape, cannibalism, or abuse in media any less disturbing CREEP it just shows you know how questionable it looks and are trying to excuse it because once again your a fuckng adul???? Tf??, which once again makes you look like a mad fucking clown You’re not defending FREEDOM NOR NUANCE DAWG you’re defending your comfort with violent content that dehumanizes victims, and trying to twist criticism into censorship because you can’t handle people holding you accountable. What’s truly embarrassing is adults treating content rooted in trauma like a quirky aesthetic, if that’s your idea of maturity, then maybe it’s not the younger generation that’s lost :3

AND BOTTOM LINE? I Talked about how rape shit should not be tolerated or even promoted in any kind of way and you're out here defending it because you think you can separate reality from fiction because you're an AdULt, please take a few steps back and analyze how fucking dump, creepy you sound

Your stupid ass is not being prevented to read whatever the fuck of fucked up shit you like, but I am pointing you your ass defending these rape enjoyers and enablers, which makes you just as fucking creepy, log off and find a job, all the kinds of hobbies out there and you decide to indulge in defending rape shit? Be fucking better, you're already an adult with grown ass pubic hairs

The least you could do is use that brain and be mature you fucking creep

Anyhow, fix your asterisks, it'll make me think all your yappings are A.I generated lollllssss

Honestly I'm having a really fun time arguing with you and seeing you seethe, because you seem to be taking this really seriously. Please stop fighting with your emotions and bring me facts, because I really don't care what you think tbh. I'd like to have a legitimate conversation instead of fighting a child screaming their head off because "oh no you enjoy icky fictional content". Oh also, thank you for believing I sound educated, because I am lol.

I'm gonna skip past most of that drivel cause tbh I'm getting bored of this and have things to do, but I want to talk about the part of "what's worse is if you are a woman". Yes, I'm a woman. Yeah, I do know how women are victims of rape. I know women who have been raped. I know women who draw or write about rape and violence in a fictional setting as a way to come to terms with what have happened and use it to empower themselves. If you *really* care about women being raped, then donate to groups who help women who are victims of sexual violence (I do, btw lol). In fact, I can argue that women who enjoy it in a fictional setting are better than women who enjoy it in real life porn, because the porn industry is actually known for being an incredibly exploitative and violent industry for women. It ties them down to a point that they can't escape, and are used over and over for their bodies. Sure some women find it empowering, and good for them, but not all do. But you don't really seem to care about that much do you? No, you love to go out of your way to berate women for creating/enjoying this kind of content, a lot of them possibly using it as a way to accept themselves for past sexual violence, and then to tell them that they don't care about actual survivors of sexual assault and they are pathetic losers and creepy. You don't know what that creator has gone through and what mechanisms they use to cope. If people who have been victims of this kind of behavior can't stand this kind of media, then just don't consume it.

Okay I get it, you thrive off rape, now gtfo cause you're already clowning yourself even more

Because If you're truly EdUcaTed then you should understand that using trauma as a shield to excuse and normalize graphic depictions of rape for entertainment is not AND NEVER EMPOWERING, Yourjust DEFLECTING and it's DISGUSTING. Survivors processing pain through fiction is one thing; turning it into content for mass consumption and then mocking people who find it harmful is something else entirely. You’re not defending survivors ho you’re just trying to justify your enjoyment of violent fantasies by dragging victims into your argument :|| If someone critiques that, it doesn’t mean they’re Screaminf like achild it means they’re recognizing how harmful it is when people treat rape as just another edgy trope. The fact you find this “fun” while others are disturbed says everything :|

It is not a flex, never will it be a flex, and if you like rape go ahead and bathe in it, because there's no point in arguing bicthes like you who defend the romantization, normalization and the praising of rape media like your life depends on it :3

Just how deprived are you to develop such a mindset? Do you feel so called out that I am calling out rape enablers for openly defending rape shit? So much that even other users recognize them for being disgusting? And have seen them gang up on people who call out their disgusting fetishes with rape

Even one of the rape enjoyers have said so many disgusting shit such as making fun of SA survivors, making sex jokes of minors?? And these are the people you're siding with? You the that desentisized???

I think the most insulting part of this is you think I'm using AI lol. I'm using asterisks to emphasize instead of all caps because I just prefer to do it that way. I bet you also think em dashes are indications of AI generation.

Ok, this is what I think. I think you're assuming that because I can accept fictional rape and irl rape are two different things, is that I am glamorizing rape. If I read a story that uses rape in a romantic light I'm like "wow that's not how it happens in real life", or "wow that's actually a bit of stockholm syndrome". But then I move on with my day. Yeah, what's shown in these stories can and does happen in real life. People fall in love with their abusers. Just because the story is like "look how romantic it is", I'm like "eh" and move on. If someone thinks it's romantic, ok, I don't care though. I have more things to worry about in real life like actually getting raped and helping actual rape victims.

What I think is creepy is the fact that you care so much about what other people enjoy and try to get them to admit to liking these sorts of things to ostracize them and drive them off the internet. Like, relax? Every adult of every age likes fucked up things. If it doesn't affect you or me, then ok. If you think I'm supporting real life rape, then ok, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. In fact I may get better sleep knowing how angry and blind you are to life outside of a computer.

Also it's Saturday, I don't work on Saturdays lol.

Even more these bitches are fully grown ass adult women, like what do you guys EAT to grow up thinking rape is okay because it's fiction????? Like what the fuck??

You must be really angry because of all your spelling and grammar mistakes.

Do you think all victims of rape should just be sitting in their houses in the dark groveling in the corner being afraid of everyone and everything? I'm glad you agree that people can process pain through fiction, but why do you assume people writing about it for mass consumption are making fun of it? Do you personally know these people? Do you know about all the possible sexual assaults they've gone through? If they want to capitalize on their trauma then let them do them, I really don't care. If someone says to me "hey i think this rape scene in this story was hot I'm going to do this in real life" then I distance myself from them as much as possible because it's weird. But if someone says "ya toxic yaoi is hot" I'm like cool.

If you find it hard arguing with me then stop arguing with me. I know for a fact I don't normalize or romanticize rape, so why would I care about what a child on the internet thinks? The only reason I said something on this original post was because it's getting annoying seeing others get all up in other's business and creating callout posts when these people you're crusading against were just existing.

EW, you're proud of allat? The audacity to call me a creep when your pass time is indulging in rape themes? When your a grown ass bitch??

If you’re genuinely out here defending glorified rape in fiction by pretending it's some noble exploration of “dark themes,” you’ve already missed the point dude No one’s trying to ban your smut stashor collection or what the fuck you call that shit cause we're questioning why your idea of escapism hinges on consuming content where consent is treated like a joke, or in short, RAPE. Saying “it’s just fiction” doesn’t magically erase the cultural impact of romanticizing abuse :| because at the end of the day you're tolerating it, and tolerating it means agreeing on normalizing kt, especially when it's packaged as desirable or 'Sellable' If you truly cared about survivors or had any shred of media literacy and reading comprehension (which you obviously don't :3), you'd understand that criticism of these tropes isn’t about “purity culture” ho it’s about not being so numb to harm that you call it “empowering.” You’re not deep or edgy for enjoying this stuff u’re just loud and desensitized

You need immediate help, as well as getting fired for having an employee who thrives off of reading and watching rape shit

Allat yap for you to say you don't remanticize rape but your dumbasss is defending it?? This thread is literally me calling out these freaks because they have cause harm on OTHER USERS and you're out here yapping about how hurt you are because you feel called out? Nobody GAF, it's on you for yapping in this thread when clearly it's not for you?? But seeing you defend these rape enablers then you're no better than one of them

What? Are y'all on a single group chat sharing about different kinds of rape media you've seen on BLs and rate how fucking hot it is? Because that's what those freaks are, their pfp comments and death threats to other users who call out their bullshit is already a proof of how much of a freak they all are

But you don't care about that do you? Because you only care about defending rape shit and convincing other people that you're not mental because your an adult ass bitch who knows the difference between fiction and reality :| bitchass

I don't really care what that other person is doing because they're not me. It's one person, not a group of people. I'm not going to make sex jokes of minors cause I'm not that kind of person and it's weird. I'm not on a "side", but if you want to assign a title me then I guess pro-shipper or whatever the term is would suit me best. I know these other users are all minors who know nothing of the world, even though you guys always think you do because you're all so haughty. Tbh I don't feel called out, because I don't really care what you think.

And yeah I'm probably that desensitized, I've been on this planet for a while lol.

Then what the fuck is your dumbasss doing here?? You preach about minding your own business but you too can't seem to do it too? Like?? Stop fucking clowning yourself even more in defending these rape enjoyers, and get on with your fucking life

Because by your dumbasss logic if a story portrayed a teacher lovingly grooming a student, or a racist villain getting a happy ending without consequences, it’s totally fine and even enjoyable because "it’s just fiction," right? After all, it’s not ReALLy hurting anyone, and you can just “move on with your day.” Do you not see how messed up that sounds? Saying “it’s fiction” doesn’t erase how normalization works, especially when it’s dressed up as romance or catharsis. If you wouldn’t openly defend pedophilia or hate crimes in a story because it’s “not real,” then maybe...Just maybe rape doesn’t get a free pass either :|

Ugh....I don't want to meddle in but, one of them that you're defending rn told an SA victim to die or sumthing like that just because that person felt uncomfortable for the person you're defending to not promote/defend SA n rape.
I think if I remember it right, they (one of the person you're defending) would always try to argue with others defending the worst SA/rape calling it "fictional".
They're many victims like the one I mentioned who was a SA victim of whom the persons you're defending have gone through the same situation.

And also, defending SA and Rape just because "it's fictional" is NOT "kink-shaming".
I mean it's like you're saying "I'm fine and feel nothing but excited seeing a person get sexually assaulted and raped because it's FICTIONAL. They don't exist so why bother even feeling bad for them?"

Like hello? Are you okay? Gwenchana TT??

Lemme put it together.
I get that fiction explores dark themes, but defending rape or SA, even in fiction, really crosses a line. It’s not just ‘harmless fun’ — those stories affect real people too.
And also just think about it, if it were a real person instead of a fictional one, would you still feel the same way? Why does fiction suddenly make that okay to defend?

And also!!! Main point: You can love reading them, enjoy reading BUT, don't defend and promote it just because "it's fictional". That's just entirely wrong.
Fiction is not a free pass to glorify abuse. Defending rape — even in fiction — is a reflection of your values, not just your taste. If you find yourself justifying sexual violence instead of condemning it, the problem isn't the story. It's you. (Very sorry I had to say that but it needed to be said)
If you defend rape in fiction, you’re telling survivors they don’t matter — and no story is worth that.

Literally my whole fucking point :| like istg

So few things cause I'm getting tired of going post by post, and I'm prob gonna be done after this cause this is getting boring. Also I know nothing I say will get through to you and you'll just have to face the reality on your own eventually.

1. Saying "I hope you get fired from your job" is what I mean when I say you guys care too much about what other people do with their lives. There aren't consequences for enjoying fictional media. There are consequences for knowingly raping or murdering a person.

2. If that other person is sending people death threats or whatever against you guys for saying you don't like rape, then weird. I'm not going to send someone death threats for not liking rape in fiction, and on the flip side I also would hope people would understand to not send death threats to me or call me a creep for not being bothered by fictional rape....because, and I'm going to your your absolute favorite argument, it's fiction.

3. "You preach about minding your own business but then what are you doing here". I'm not the one calling people out for liking something that has nothing to do with me and sending them death threats. I'm pretty sure sending death threats and actively wanting people to kill themselves and lose their livelihoods is much worse than enjoying fictional rape, but you seem to have no problem with people dying in real life or losing what allows them to exist.

4. "Rape in fiction" isn't a new phenomena. It's been around literally forever. There are tons of novels with dark themes like rape, torture, etc. Even look at history, this stuff exists. Sanitizing it in fiction isn't going to stop it from happening. People haven't been raping people because there is rape in a very niche form of media (yaoi/yuri).

I think that's it. Also, calling people names will result in people taking you less seriously, I would recommend not using it in future arguments.

Eugh to think this is what adults are like just because you didn't call me names doesn't make me arguments less of what it is, and that doesn't excuse you for tolerating rape media :3

At this point, it's clear that you're more invested in justifying harmful content than reflecting on how it impacts others. I'm not here to argue with people who mistake criticism for censorship or empathy for weakness. If you truly believe that fictional depictions of sexual violence exist in a moral vacuum, that's on you but don't expect everyone to cosign that mindset. I'm choosing to disengage because there's no value in debating people who lack basic media awareness and empathy. To think that you're an adult is actually so alarming, I genuinely hope you get exposed for the rotten shut you choose to indulge in :3