To those who jumped on me for wishing Minwoo a happy ending, I will slap this chap to y'al...

He might've been over protective in the earlier chaps but I srsly thought that is because of his trauma when he failed to protect the MC when they were little. Now, MC gave him a parameter—a boundary and not even a single time he tried to step over it amd be the manipulative and obsessive monster y'all claims him to be. Can't say the same to the ML tho

I'm sorry you're too disgusting to think it was okay to give the MC a panic attack by selfishly holding onto him physically while he freaked out. Sorry your brain is damaged enough to think respecting boundaries means physically assaulting someone because you're a pathetic jealous little boy You're too retarded to understand that the ML being shitty doesn't magically make the dude you're gooning for a green flag You couldn't be any more moronic lmfaoooo

Why are you speaking this meanly to a stranger over yaoi are you insane??? Check yourself this is not normal

Sorry you're too stupid to understand that OPs stupidity and excising red flag shit actually translates into excising shitty people irl

Hey coward how who turned her replied off @TypeS. Here's as sweet message for you

You're a hateful bitch but if that's what fulfills the Regina George twink fantasy that you're trying to portray then we give yo that. Girl you sound more brain-damaged than an actual person who has it. Might have been because of too much gooning to the white haired guy that even the last bit of brain juices came out of that stinky stick. I get that you can't be open minded with regards to Minwoo's character because you have no mind to open to begin with. Exercising red flag shit my ass. What's red here is your eyes coz you a crybaby and you definitely hitting coke.

i genuinely love you for this

HAHAHAH I LOVE YOU FOR THIS don’t let that weirdo bring your mood down you did nothing wrong

To put it into perspective for you: Saying he’s only overprotective is really watering down the things he did. His own trauma doesn’t excuse his own actions. A good example of protectiveness is the mc’s sister. The sister protected him but didn’t shelter him and let him make his own decisions. Minwoo DID step over MC’s boundaries before. It wasn’t until the fight he got scared he’d never see MC again, that he decided to listen for once in their life. He’s only NOW starting to be a normal friend.

He is also obsessive (he literally admitted it more than once), and manipulative, as he tried to control who mc hangs out with, who mc met, and who mc can talk to. He admitted that his protectiveness also benefitted him by keeping Mc to himself. In chapter one, mc mentions that minwoo doesn’t like him joining a simple group chat. He told mc to stop his relationship with ml and monitored him by staying over at his house to prevent him from leaving. He made mc feel uncomfortable, suffocated, and scared of his reaction. Which is not normal for friends to be scared of their own friend’s reaction to their relationship. MC bottled up all these frustrating emotions and blew up at minwoo rightfully. Minwoo also kissed MC in his sleep. Minwoo also beat ML unconscious due to his own jealousy at seeing them mutually making out.
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What you're doing is actually concerning and I hope you don’t have this mindset for real life. Because you don’t realize the red flags. You’re excusing and minimizing his actions to just being “overprotective” or “traumatized.” You’re not really thinking about how MC feels at all. Him starting to be a NORMAL friend NOW shouldn’t be praised. It’s the bare minimum. “Tries to protect him despite their feud,” should be the standard for a normal human being. If you fight with your friend and they're about to get sexually assaulted, you’d ignore them? This isn’t a competition between ML and minwoo. BOTH are bad in their own ways. The fact that you can’t recognize minwoo’s faults is the reason why people point it out for you to understand. ML’s flaws are obvious.

Ikr! Idk why they get so triggered and act like it’s a crime to say Minwoo deserves happiness, like??? Okay then, I’ll scream it louder — LONG LIVE MINWOOI LOVE YOU, YOU DESERVE HAPPINESS WOOOOO

I understand your points, thank you. Still I would wish him a happy ending coz he's apologetic and making up for it ( I read the raws) He might have his shortcomings and redflags but he's not as evil as what other peeps think

To put it into perspective for you too: After reading it carefully, I really appreciate your opinion. But to be honest, you're too focused on Minwoo’s mistakes, which are actually not even comparable to what Seojun and Joohyun did. I agree that Joohyun’s sister isn't that strict, although she is actually really worried about Joohyun. In the last few chapters (raw version) Joohyun ends up pregnant because he isn't good at protecting himself.

Who do you think will be fucking disappointed later? Hm? His sister? His parents? Idk... After trusting everything to Minwoo, Joohyun still ends up pregnant with Seojun’s child, who is basically a stranger <<<-----

Maybe Minwoo’s behavior did make Joohyun uncomfortable because he loved him so much, but at least Minwoo never crossed the line by forcing or raping him. He respected Joohyun’s boundaries from the start because he knew Joohyun wouldn't have his first time unless it was with someone he loved. Joohyun only warned him once and Minwoo immediately realized it and backed off. Isn’t that how it should be, in your opinion, right?

Am I cruel for wishing Minwoo didn't save Joohyun when he almost got gang raped by Seojun’s friends? I hope Minwoo doesn't come back to save Joohyun at that time, so he can learn his lesson. But it seems like the author wants to use a semi-classic plot where someone other than Seojun still cares about Joohyun. Making it clearly a classic love triangle.

Looking at the bigger picture, Minwoo’s mistake is only minor, and even you said it yourself that it's the bare minimum, but the way you portray Minwoo makes it seem like he committed a huge sin that everyone should know about. I've read your perspective three times and it feels somewhat forced, so I wrote this long explanation because I want to add this point of view to the discussion with you. I hope you'll never experience what Minwoo went through irl, sacrificing himself for years for a friend, only to have it all fall apart because of that friend’s stupidity in love.

Anyways you guys are free to wish him happiness all you want, there’s nothing wrong with that. The only wrong things is if you guys said, “he deserves better” implying the mc is bad, which isn’t the case. It’s fine to like any character, but it’s always important to recognize the red flags and not to diminish them at least. Diminishing red flags is part of the reason why there’s so many red/black flag MLs because authors see readers like this and think they’re popular. Minwoo reminds me of a starter yandere ML before they turn for the worse.

The thing is, I’m specifically focusing on minwoo because the topic is about minwoo. I’m also focusing on him because MC and MLs flaws are super obvious and self explanatory. Me pointing out minwoo’s flaws alone doesn’t mean I support the ML more. ML is obviously not a good guy. I’m saying both ML and minwoo aren’t good love interests. I’m pointing it out because a lot of readers here seem to not notice minwoo’s red flags and think he’s super innocent. It’s to make people aware. People should know about these flaws because them acting so unaware is concerning. It seems you’re desensitized to red flags, to the point that you consider this light behavior. If their friends or if they as a friend ever act like minwoo did irl, then that’s scary. Imagine a male friend you have no romantic feelings for is so possessive and controls what you do for years.

To get into the details, I think you forgot that minwoo kissed mc in his sleep in one chapter and another time when he almost marked him in chapter 25 if mc didn’t push him away. He also beat the ML unconscious due to his own jealousy. (Which is super surprising that the ML never retaliated or was mad about it). There is no sacrifice that minwoo did. He voluntarily chose to glue himself to mc’s side. Minwoo also is the reason why mc is so naive and sheltered, because he never let him get involved with others. Just the fact that minwoo monitors his other friendships and doesn’t have another proper friend, says a lot. That’s not what a sacrifice is called. He said it himself twice that he only did all this for his own benefit. MC isn’t obligated to listen to him or return his feelings. No friend should be scared of their own friend’s reactions. I will never control my friend. Saying minwoo sacrificed himself for mc for years reminds me exactly of guys irl trying to defend themselves for wanting their girl bestie all to themself. It’s like a man saying, “I put in all that work staying by her side for years! It should only be me. No man should be able to just swoop in and take her from me!”

It’s okay if you want to keep thinking that way. I can’t change you unless you want to break your mindset and see the bigger picture, because I think people who like Minwoo are valid. I already mentioned the way Minwoo made Joohyun uncomfortable, even if not as explicitly as you did. I was pointing out the bigger picture that Minwoo is still trying to respect boundaries.

Speaking of Joohyun, as naive as a 20-year-old college student can be,,, do you really think he’s that naive? He can think for himself, right? So it depends on whether he takes it or not, and stupidly Joohyun chose to take it. Many people agree that Minwoo should find his own happiness, because he truly deserves it. Whoever ends up with Minwoo will get the WHOLE package, even if his obsessive behavior needs time to heal, because I know we can’t change people <<=

Just thinking about it makes me frustrated, because how come the one who cared for Joohyun first was Minwoo, yet Seojun always late? In some chapters, I was really happy seeing Minwoo start to let Joohyun go, but then he had to care again, just why??

I still want to enjoy this story because I like baby and I want to see if the author will give an even better plot. I also hope the author gives Minwoo a happy ending, because he deserves it.

>> Minwoo deserves someone BETTER, someone more MATURE, someone SMARTER, and someone WHO'S AWARE OF THEIR OWN WORTH.

Thank you for letting me have this discussion with you, take care.

I have no issue with any of you liking or wishing happiness for minwoo. The only issue I ever had is you guys downplaying his bad actions every time. You can simply admit that he’s not an angel and still like him despite him being a red flag. That’s perfectly fine. Heck there’s so many red flag MLs and ppl still love them. Anyone is free to like a red flag character as long as they are aware that they’re not 100% good.

I will point out that it’s really weird that you said “unless you want to break your mindset and see the bigger picture,” implying that there’s something wrong with my mindset for not excusing minwoo’s actions. I don’t think you’re using the “bigger picture” phrase correctly. I don’t want a mindset that excuses bad actions. And I don’t want to ignore red flags. I also don’t want to take the lesser evil by saying minwoo is better just cause he’s not a black flag. The mindset you’re trying to convince me of, is actually dangerous and should never be applied to real life.

I’m only pointing out minwoo JUST started respecting boundaries now. When he hasn’t been doing it for several years of mc’s life. He has shown more times to push mc’s boundaries throughout the story. He only started respecting his boundaries when he realized he had no chance and that he could lose mc as a friend forever. Him deciding to respect mc’s boundaries now is the bare minimum of a human being. That’s not something to be praised.

>> What you’re doing is like this: “Even though he kissed me in my sleep, controlled who I get to hang out with, and almost marked me without my consent, once I stated I don’t see him romantically, he started respecting my boundaries! See guys, he can learn now!!! He has potential!”