Idk guys I feel bad asf. I know the mc is mad but it’s really not fair bc they were in s...

He’s not mad because he is an omega and Su-ah turned out to be the alpha — he’s mad because the very selfish, self-centered, and deliberate actions of someone will forever dictate his life.

Su-ah kept showering the MC with his pheromones as they grew up, making him dependent on them.

Su-ah is the very reason the MC cannot control his own pheromones and, therefore, has no freedom over his body or even the freedom to walk outside alone.

Su-ah is the very reason the MC is being objectified and used right now.

I have a much more argumentative set of comments you can check out.

Fuck me cause I forgot the most important part…
You can check my comment on chapter 8 if you want* ╥﹏╥ didn’t mean to be mean I was too fired up sorry (￣∇￣")

Wasn’t the only reason he showered him with pheromones because MC couldn’t handle the fact that he was an omega, therefore neglecting his omega needs? I interpret ML’s showering as a protection so that he didn’t have to face it head-on.
He was surprised when he smelt the alphas.. like it’s never happened before.
Plus, he HAD access to information. Everyone was supportive. He was just a brat (lowkey).
Him, in turn, being reliant on ML was an unfortunately side effect of being protected from his own secondary gender.


LMK if this makes any sense/if I’m completely wrong

The thing is, he never asked for consent. He only acted the way HE thought was good for Omega — not the best way, but the way he wanted. It was not an impartial decision. Alpha chose to stay in Omega’s life, but he did so at Omega’s expense.

It’s the fact that he never tried to look beyond what he wanted — which was to remain relevant in Omega’s life.

He deprived the MC of the most important thing in life: knowledge. Yes, the MC technically had access to information, but believing that his body was not acting or being affected like other omegas, he simply passed it over. He didn’t feel concerned.

Would you, honestly, learn about menstruation if it didn’t happen to you? To answer that question, you only need to look around and see the way most men react to the topic.
Furthermore, Su-ah was the one with the most knowledge about omegas as most of his family are omegas, and MC’s family are predominantly alphas which is why there was this certainty about his secondary gender and the fact in the story even the doctor seems skeptical and dubious.

Therefore, it is normal for him to be shocked when, in the street, he suddenly becomes « weak » and the target of « naturally » / « genetically » (loads of bullshit) stronger people. He instantly becomes prey.

He was not a brat. He was — and still is — someone defying societal expectations and norms by wanting to pursue his hobbies, his sport, and simply his life, while trying to gain independence.

And again:

Su-ah is the very reason the MC cannot control his own pheromones and, therefore, has no freedom over his body or even the freedom to walk outside alone.

Su-ah is the very reason Su-ah* is being objectified and used right now.

And I will add that Su-ah actively participated in the development of an internalised « omegaphobia » by treating him the way he still is.

We ain’t in no tribunal but I still rest my case, and on the case of : ion know how old he is, Su-ah. I find him GUILTY.

He did all that and never stopped to think if it would be something mc wanted.

You’ve misinterpreted my “brat” statement. That came from the party incident where he insulted the omegas there who were open and ready to help him through the news.

I agree with the rest of the things you’ve said, but I think you’re incorrect about him passing it over BECAUSE he was scented.. he rejected the omega news RIGHT at his party. Wasn’t that before he was scented? ML was very much aware of his feelings from there on out, which is why he started (again not saying he should’ve, of course). Am I far off? Did it start even when they were children, before they even got their verdicts?

I, as a transgender man who doesn’t accept menstruation, have to stay knowledgeable of the risks, even if I no longer bleed (if I’ve misunderstood your question then feel free to correct me) because it is still part of my bodies function. Biological women HAVE to be knowledgeable about these things just in case, even if they don’t have a cycle.. right? It’s just the responsible thing to do. Using a man in your example is inaccurate. I hope you understand why.

We both agree he is guilty of making the incorrect choice by not consulting MC, therefore being inconsiderate of how it will impact MC’s life.

My statement about menstruation was meant to describe a situation in which a person has never had a cycle in the first place, and where menstruation appears after puberty, in early adulthood — essentially out of nowhere. A situation similar to the Omega’s, who was almost completely clueless about heat. He knew it could happen, but since it never did, he didn’t bother looking into it.

That is why I used men as an example — more specifically cisgender men. No offense was intended.

It is his constant interaction with Su-ah, who was presenting as a dominant alpha, that is implied to have altered his secondary gender. So yes, he was scented by Su-ah involuntarily. And in my opinion, the narrative strongly hints at them drifting apart after the omega diagnosis, which would mean they likely didn’t speak during the short lapse of time between the diagnosis and the party.

In a previous comment (you can check my profile to find it (▰˘◡˘▰)), I explained that I can get over that. What I cannot get over is the fact that Su-ah kept going as they grew up — and even after being asked multiple times to stop.

He rejects the Omega news right from the diagnosis. He is shocked. He dissociates. He does not take it well. His mom throwing a “congratulations on your first period, I invited all the menstruated people I could find so they can explain, because I’m a dad and I don’t quite know what to do” kind of party made him crash out — and honestly, who wouldn’t?

Yet I keep seeing comments depicting Su-ah as benevolent for “putting up with” the MC’s behavior, and I want to reiterate this:

He was — and still is — someone defying societal expectations and norms by wanting to pursue his hobbies, his sport, and simply his life, while trying to gain independence.

I’ve made a more complete comment and statement about how I view their dynamic and how I feel about it. And still — no empathy whatsoever for Su-ah.

I apologise for the inconvenience, the mistake and the syntax errors it’s 4:40 am…
Rereading it made me realise that I tell people three times to look my previous comment (which should be available from my profile, yes it’s the third time I’m talking about) lol
Night night see you in a few hours guys <3

Okay and like I said, Su-ah didn’t do it on purpose. They were both kids. I don’t believe Su-ah knew that things would turn out like this, especially when They were younger. To him, they were just two close friends, who would eventually become lovers. Now, as Su-ah gets older I do agree that you’re right- he has made the MC reliant on him and his pheromones, which is selfish, but as children, I cannot blame him for what he thought was a purely innocent act.

I’m talking about the past (which was depicted in this current chapter) whereas you’re talking about the present. A lot of what you said is correct and I mostly don’t disagree, however looking at it from the lens of the beginning, I can still say that I mourn the loss of an innocent friendship that had to come to blows with biology and second gender. As I said, I agree that Su-ah continuously showering the MC with pheromones is wrong. However, the MC is mad that Su-ah turned him into an omega, which was an accidental act in the first place. I believe two things can be true at once, as you mentioned that he’s really mad at Su-ah’s selfish behavior. Yes, in the present this becomes a prevalent issue. But in the past and continuing on to the present, the MC is mad because he created these expectations for himself. He envisioned a life where he and Su-ah would live together with him as the alpha, and Su-ah as the omega because of his more feminine face and soft demeanor. Now that that vision has been shattered he’s embarrassed. He’s embarrassed because he doesn’t fit into the box of what an omega means to him, To him, omega means somebody weak or somebody to be protected (Su-ah as a child) and to now see himself in that position as the protected instead of the protector, or as the “weak” instead of the “strong” is conflicting. So he lashes out, and he trains extra hard at judo practice, because he doesn’t want to fit into that box. Like I said, su-ah turned him into an omega subconsciously and he felt shitty about it. I can be mad at his present actions yes, but I can’t be mad at his younger self for loving someone so much (and the feeling was mutual) that he basically imprinted on him at a young age.

If the situation was reversed, I know Su-ah would be okay with being an omega and having the MC as an alpha. Probably bc that was always the expectation, but still. The MC needs to understand that, unfortunately, at some point, he’s just going to have to get over it. There’s nothing he can do to change his second gender, and whether that means accepting su-ah or moving on is all dependent on him. But carrying around this rage and almost borderline resentment he has toward himself, su-ah and perhaps other omegas (though i don’t want to make any hasty generalizations) is unhealthy.

preach

it’s hinted that, even in the past, Su-ah consciously scented him, without his consent. And that Juhyeok has asked him to stop for a while now. The “youth” excuse only last a moment because between the diagnosis and now, Su-ah grew up and gained consciousness, and therefore started gaining understanding about what was wrong with his actions.

Yeah that’s true, in the past he was mad that his dream was shattered but he was also rightfully frustrated and angry that his life became significantly more difficult than anyone else. And nothing will change that.

It shifts from embarrassment to frustration coming from his social status. It’s not just embarrassment, it’s his pre-decided fall off the social ladder. It’s the fact that socially he will have to go back on it and try his best to climb back. Someone in the comments made a good point saying the Omegaverse often depicts a misogynistic society traits in the way they treat omegas.

Just like we’ve been saying, the Juhyeok is someone challenging societal expectations.

As much as Juhyeok needs to go to therapy because of his pent up anger towards the limitations the world and genetics put on his body and how it socially devalues him, which as impacted and will always impact the outcome of whatever he has done and will do.
Su-ah needs to go to therapy too, because that some unhealthy shit too. He needs to get over rejection, and take accountability in Juhyeok situation, and he needs to stop seeing him self as the victim cause the only victim he is, is the victim of his own actions.

So yeah…

I feel like you’re almost purposely misunderstanding or arguing with what I’m saying because you’ve almost made this too personal, which I can see based on your numerous replies about your personal life and hypotheticals that you use to relate to paint this situation in a certain lens. I’ve already agreed that you’re right, but as I said, readers are allowed to feel bad for both parties as that is what this author intended by giving us this latest episode which shows a tidbit of their childhood lives. The MC is not the only person in the world who is an omega and he obviously hasn’t let it stop him from doing what he wants to do even if it makes things harder for him. Unfortunately that’s just what happens in every omegaverse when the omega doesn’t conform to omegan standards and wants to flourish outside that certain box. I feel bad for them both, I do agree with the person who said mysoginistic traits are definitely furthered in a lot of omegaverses, though. I’m not saying that the MC has no right to feel the way he feels, but I’m also saying that I feel bad for both Su-ah and the MC bc it must feel like whiplash to have come from such a beautiful friendship only for it to go down the drain (which was admittedly his fault, even if it was subconscious at the beginning). As I said, I’m looking at this through the perspective of this current chapter, which was obviously given as a way to highlight their friendship and closeness before everything went to shit. COMPLETELY disregarding everything else and looking at this chapter objectively, can you admit that their friendship was beautiful before Su-ah was identified as an alpha? Can you admit that it is unfortunate that things ended up this way in the present? I think you can and that’s all I’m trying to say. I’m not tilting to villainize anyone over the other, but you are definitely trying to villainize Su-ah which, to each their own, but it’s definitely more complex than that.