It's absolutely fine with me that people have different personal taste when it comes to this stuff! It all just comes down to what people do or don't prefer, or like, in relationships (real or fictional). It sounds like you and your husband make a nice couple.
I personally don't like that particular flavour of pet name, I find it cringeworthy and a turn-off in real life. Not that it's a big deal, it just gets met with a "lol nope, not that one!" (And if they persist, they get called "toddler" in return until they switch to a different endearment.) So I find it unattractive when characters in manga etc. do it, too. As I've said, I like everything else about this manga, but that one thing makes Chay less attractive to me. Also, in this case, Keaton actually doesn't like it either so I'd prefer it if he didn't just put up with it or get used to it. As you say, of course in the end it's the author's taste that counts, but *my* taste does affect the way I react to the characters and their relationship. I think that's normal.
It's like people having different feelings about public displays of affection. Some like it, some don't. (I'm totally fine with it, fyi.) It's similar in that it's a way some people like to express their affection - but if the other person doesn't like it or isn't comfortable with it, I feel that the pro-PDA partner should respect that. And I don't think people in general would object to someone not liking PDAs.
Are you telling me not to respond to a comment in a comments section? The very purpose of a comments section? Smart guy. I have no issue with other people having opinions, i have an issue with people who come across cunty. If your opinion is based in logic and can be understood by the general public (people apart from the other uptight whiners) then i will respond with "okay, i'll agree to disagree", but when you say something as ridiculous as "people, even people close to you, calling you baby or babydoll is patronizing" i'll respond with the proper response of "are you retarded or pretending"? The OP is clearly just looking for stupid things to be upset about, it's ridiculous. Btw, aren't YOU commenting on MY opinion instead of continuing on? Why? Oh! Because it's a comments section. What part of me came across as an sjw too?
There are quite a few scenarios where calling someone baby or babydoll is endearing, but the OP is saying it'd "Turn them off" even in these scenarios, which i find ridiculous. What is "patronizing" about your lover or friend calling you baby? How is them calling you baby them looking down on you. The OP comes across as an easily offended cunt and i'm making that well known. Idc if you like my methods babe.
THIS^^^^^ EXACTLY THIS! This is what i've been saying! Being called cutsie things like baby or babydoll isn't innately patronizing like the OP wants to think. They aren't just including harassment as the context for patronizing someone, they're saying if, in any situation, someone were to call them baby they'd feel like the person is looking down on them. This is ridiculous.
I believe i've explained well enough why you're being ridiculous. I'll give you a gist: you aren't just including harassment as the context in which using cutsie names like baby or babydoll are patronizing, you're saying that in any situation in which a person were to call you baby you would feel like they were looking down on you. I fail to see how you would consider being called baby or some other cute nickname as patronizing if you were called by a person close to you. What i've been saying is that: if your significant other were to call you baby and your response was to get angry because you feel as though, for literally NO reason, they're looking down on you that i'd think you're kinda a cunt. I feel as though anyone with logic will feel the same.
It's not a matter of taste. What you just said in this paragraph is: "hey world! I'm an easily offended cunt"! You try to play it off as this perfectly reasonable response, but what you're saying is that if your lover were to, out of love for you, give you baby as a cute nickname, that you'd instantly feel like they were looking down on you and turn the cute moment into an awkward moment where they realized they pissed you off and have to try and come up with another one to please you. Because you're a cunt. Congratulations. You've succeeded in taking the feelings that person put into that nickname and stepped on them.
Eh, you seem to be getting a lot of dislike for this. I don't understand why anyone would take your opinion personally. It's just a manga guys....
Anyway, I agree with you. I didn't mind the nickname "bit" but thought "baby" was off-putting. I'm personally not a huge fan of pet names in general but find "baby" to be especially cringey. I wouldn't try to regulate the nicknames couples use with each other (nor do I think that was your purpose of this topic) but I also don't think it's cute. At all. And it's unlikely my preferences will change soon. If my partner continuously called me a pet name I don't know how long our relationship would last. It would annoy the heck out of me.
We all have different opinions/preferences, can't we respect that?
There is a difference between having an opinion and being a cunt, would you respect my "opinion" if i thought blacks were sub-human? No, you'd think i was a racist cunt.
Why are you this upset by someone else's preference? Talking about manga is one thing, but the only one who has a right to call them those nicknames in real life is someone intimate with them, and part of being intimate with someone is learning their likes and dislikes. I don't agree that baby is patronizing, but someone who gets offended and insists on using a nickname their partner hates is far more than just patronizing.
All right, I'm going to attempt this ONCE more, because now you're just being insulting to everyone. Try to read very carefully, because your reading comprehension seems to need some work. I say this with affection (that makes it endearing, right?): calm the fuck down, you're making a fool of yourself.
Who would be so high-maintenance that they'd be upset that someone didn't like a particular pet name??! Look, maybe this is partly to do with cultural differences. Australians are not a cutesy-poo people in general. I would need confirmation from others (particularly USians) on this, but from TV it seems that "baby" might be much more commonly used in the US and maybe other places, compared to Oz. I hear "babe" occasionally - which has connotations of sexiness rather than childishness - but rarely "baby" unless someone's talking to a very small child or an adorable pet. It's way more likely to hear "sweetheart" in Australia than the diminutive "sweetie," for example. "Sweetie" is more often used to be sarcastic or deliberately patronising here. That whole "bae" thing? I have never, ever heard an Aussie utter it. This may be different with teenagers; my friends, significant others and I are all over 25 so we're all grown-ass adults and have never called each other super-cutesy names. And look up 'Australian nicknames' on YouTube to get an idea of how Aussies show affection through nicknaming.
It's just stupid that someone would be hurt that their endearment was not to the other person's liking. Grow up! Who the hell is that much of a snowflake?? An old boyfriend and I, when we were in the early stages of the relationship, had a great time going through all the increasingly outrageous pet names we could come up with and seeing which worked and which didn't. BOTH of us vetoed almost all of them - unsurprisingly, he didn't care for "Sweet-butt," and I put the kaibosh on "Boo-boo" immediately. Obviously, at that point we were deliberately trying to gross each other out. But this kind of exchange is what it means to respect each others' feelings and preferences, and make each other happy. And have fun at the same time. If someone I was dating continued to insist on calling me something they knew I didn't like or feel comfortable with, my conclusion would be that they didn't care about my feelings.
Seriously, why is this such a big deal to you? You're verging on public meltdown so I'm curious. Read this carefully: IT'S OKAY if you call someone "baby" and they like it. If I witnessed it, I wouldn't think you were looking down on them. I would think "Blergh, that's not a pet name I think is cute/endearing," because to me the terms in and of themselves have patronising, infantilising connotations. I don't judge other people for using them though, because once more for the dummies IT'S FINE IF YOU LIKE IT. Equally, IT'S ALSO FINE THAT I DON'T LIKE IT. So in the context of the comment section of a manga, IT'S FINE IF I EXPRESS THAT OPINION. It's also fine if other people disagree, but in your case: stop being a belligerent dickhead or go home troll, you're drunk.
So being turned off by the nickname "baby" is the equivalent of thinking blacks are sub-human? As a black person who faces racism regularly, I find that to be hilarious. I don't know what universe you live in where the two are comparable. Are you in a relationship, romantic or friendly, with OP that would call for giving them the nickname "baby"? If you are you're a horrible friend/partner because you have little respect for them. But if you're not (most likely the situation) then who are you to even give input on the nicknames OP would like to be called?
And don't worry, based on your comments here I already think you're a cunt :)
None of what you just wrote matters, it doesn't matter because we had already established the context in which you were being called baby or baboll. It doesn't matter that certain nicknames are used more in other areas because we already established that it would be anyone, even someone close to you like a lover, calling you baby and you'd get offended.
When did i say the two are comparable in degree of insult? I just gave it as an example. "faced with racism everyday", sorry, but unless you're living in a 3rd world country you aren't oppressed, just whiny. How is nicknaming someone a sign of disrespect? As far as who am i, i am a commenter in a comments section who saw something they disagree with and decided to say something. Don't really care if you like my methods or not babe.
You're just saying everything i've been saying... Intimate partners SHOULD be able to nickname you without you being a cunt and getting all offended. The reason i've been arguing is because the OP is insisting that they'd get offended even in those situations, so i'm making sure the OP knows that this makes them a cunt.
It's actually not a huge deal to me, i just like to respond when people message me.
Lol, you actually tried to use the whole "well words are used in different contexts varying culturally" argument AFTER having established the context WE were discussing in. What a dumbass! :^D
'Regularly" not "everyday". It's amusing how you bring up racism as if you think it's a bad thing, then turn around and trivialize racism by saying oppression is only existent in 3rd world counties. Different topic that I'd rather not get into here, but at least now I can say you're a racist cunt too.
Either you didn't read that anon's comment or failed to comprehend it. My guess is the latter.
Calling someone the way they'd like to be called and avoiding nicknames they don't like is basic respect 101. You don't seem to get that respect is more important in an intimate relationship, not less. And I know if I did something my partner disliked as a romantic gesture I would want them to speak up right away, not keep quiet out of fear of hurting my feelings or seeming uptight. If everything I did upset them or they started berating me over honest mistakes it would be a problem, but the OP doesn't sound like that sort at all. She accepts that not everyone thinks the same way and doesn't give any sign she wouldn't handle the issue with maturity if it came up. You, on the other hand, just sound like someone who has a set idea of what every relationship should look like and can't accept that others do things differently.
What is this? battle royale 2017? holy shit.
I really don't warm to "baby," "bit" or "pretty baby bit." Vom. Nicknames like that are so patronising and infantilising. Some people might find them adorable but they just make me cringe - and hope "pretty baby bit" goes fucking Super Wolf on him.
Love the art though, and I do love wolves. Of course, in real life there's no such thing as alphas in wolf packs, but let's not get pedantic :-p