I'm happy I finally found someone who thinks more openly. So many people here only pick one moment and decides from there. They ignore the whole story and characters' real feelings.
Thank you, people always blame everything on Siwon and act as if Jinha is a saint which he is not he made huge mistakes
overgeneralizing, most or at least half blame it on everyone but donghyun. and it should be that way lol
Lol you think anyone cares about your opinion? If you hate the comments then stop reading them. You won't right? Similarly, people won't drop this manhwa coz they hate Siwon.
.... i would give you an agreeable statement but I sadly can't cause Siwon clearly knew who the fuck Ran Xu or whatever his name is was cause Jinha told him when he was finally able to get a hold of it and Siwon STILL chose to associate with the asshole.
Clearly you're tunnel visioned cause Jinha tried to explain to him multiple times after confirming who he thought it was. Also Siwon jumps to conclusions and never lets Jinha speak when Jinha goes to explain, he runs away and expect Jinha to apologize when Siwon is the one who should be appologizing for budding into someone speaking and not letting them speak. Siwon refuses to tell Jinha how he feels yet expect Jinha to know that he's special to him? The only good thing Siwon ever did for Jinha was save him, literally. That was the only time he showed he cared, other than that all he does is insult him. Idk how some of you don't realize that. At first yeah Jinha did make mistakes and should have told Siwon certain things, but at the same time he had his reasons to hold back and wait a little more instead of jumping down someone's throat. Yes in the beginning he was mean to Siwon cause Siwon didn't have memory and you can't expect someone to remember something when they were ungodly intoxicated. But that's it. Jinha has protected and supported Siwon so so many times, even anonymously and Siwon still treated him like garbage.
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@Terriyaki0212 and @Youraedthiswrogn (ngl i fell for your name omg). ThaNK YOU <3
so glad,so glad that you said it, its like people are not even trying to look at siwons parts of the story, there just skimming through it
He did not treat him like garbage. And it seems like you might have tunnel vision because after Siwon learned that Seonyun was Xuan run in ch 57, he had limited contact with the dude. First time, to ask why he was targeted. A second time was in ch 59, where Seonyun saved him from homophobes(but he out Siwon, so it was equally his fault that it happened) and confessed but Siwon told him to kick rocks. And the third time in ch 60, where he only gave him the time of day because he thought the dude was going to tell him something important related to Kang Jinha. it's not like he was just ignoring the fact that the guy is bad news.
And in ch 50, Siwon literally asked Jinha what reason he had for acting how was towards Seonyun and Jinha was silent and then followed it up with "anyways, he's not who you think he is." Siwon didn't cut him off. He just didn't take the time to explain it and in the end, Seonyun still did what Jinha was afraid of so it was for nothing. Now, can I understand Jinha's actions? Yes. But I can also understand Siwon's. I'm not gonna take your word against someone without a reason. No would should and it was unreasonable to ask that of Siwon. And back when Donghyun got kidnapped, Jinha threw a fit because Siwon was more concerned about finding his friend than making out. Despite all of their ups and downs, they've done a lot of simple dating stuff. That should be fine, if Jinha has done more stuff for Siwon, it's mostly because he's rich. But all they have done outside of the drama is study, go out to eat, have drinks and make out. Normal date stuff. They have mutual problems but that's normal. Siwon's worse thing was yelling at him after being outed and being unsure of their relationship and that should be understandable considering the circumstances.
thank you typing this, i would of but my hand hurts lol
You just gave 3 instances where Siwon interacted with him despite the warningswhile saying we have tunnel vision and that he avoided him. -claps-
Read chapters 10-19 for various examples of Siwon jumping to the conclusion that Jinha sexually assaulted him the night he got drunk, not really letting him explain (he literally says he didn't do it, but Siwon just keeps acting under the misunderstanding that he did do it) ane treats Jinha like garbage before finding out he is the cause of Jinha's behavior and not being able to say anything. Its a cycle, this happens the entire first season, where were you guys? I'm not interested in arguing with you that "Siwon didn't treat Jinha like shit", he clearly did.
you are forgetting that jinha has made assumptions about siwon a bunch of times with out hearing him out sooo, and jinha has treated siwon badly more than once, he isint a saint, i mean how are you gonna get mad at someone for not remembering you when you had a name change.
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for starters ch5 the first one to assume things is jinha and he does more of this in more chapters, also siwon isint wrong about the retreat situation. he was drunk, it dousint matter if he made the first move he was completly drunk and jinha went with it , you dont mess with a drunk person just because they started it , they are drunk, thats not true consent. you know what im done playing with you i can already tell that even if i cite everything your not gonna listen. just re read the comic yourself.
Actually, if you read chapter 1 and 2 it's Siwon who starts assuming Jinha is after him because Dongyhun says he might be gay. The rest is on the assumption that "all this is happening because Jinha is gay and wants my ass", it ends up with Siwon assuming Jinha sexually assaulted him 3 years ago at the freshman retreat before Jinha tells him that he's wrong, the dreams aren't because he's a pervert that "is after him", they're because he wants Siwon in his life, that it was Siwon who kissed HIM 3 years ago AND that the reason he wants him in his life is because he is actually Kang Jun.
Also, he was justified, like he always is, in assuming Siwon was leeching credits there. Jinha overheard Siwon agree with Dongyhun that "gays are disgusting" and they had talked about how "Siwon is avoiding him", he is under the impression that Siwon doesn't like him and he says he's had people leech project credits before. You're done arguing because this is the only scene that looks remotely like Jinha is at fault, you can't find anymore, and even this one has a LOT of hidden context.
I'll take this as a victory, hopefully you learned from your fruitless efforts to find scenes where Jinha is being an asshole without Siwon being the direct cause and will actually read and realize that AT LEAST 95% of the misunderstandings these two go through is because Siwon assumes things and hurts Jinha.
you really need to re read it your self and he only agreed on it being disgusting because he didint want to lose his friend because that happens, you can tell by his face
oh and guess what being drunk isint consent
If you hate Siwon and the story then drop it. I like him and Jinha. I like how the story is going, it's actually surprising. All you want to do is call Siwon stupid because he was nice to a dude when he didn't know that dude was evil because his boyfriend didn't tell him and that he was upset that he was outed. Literally the ONLY problem people have with him at this point and both are 100% reasonable. Meanwhile, Siwon literally went back in time to save Jinha. That alone should be enough to at least think about things from his pov.
But I guess you all blindly listen to people when they tell you to stay away from someone and don't give you a reason. If you were outed, you'd totally be cool as a cucumber about it.
My main problem with all of the complaints is that they don't go both ways. Jinha has caused just as much problems, if not more, that Siwon. The biggest problem in the series is the Chinese dude and that would have been fixed if he had just said, "That's him" on the spot.