Don't worry man, for now, I have no interest in arguing with people who don't see logic and keep being repititive(just like me I guess.) I'll come back if I think I can get through to them. See ya, take care.
Yeah... I value the dialogue more than your personal opinion. The rules of the omegaverse state that sex between an alpha and omega can't be helped if the pheromones are involved, Dojin says himself that he "lost all control" and acted "like those alphas i despise". He didn't want to do it, he couldn't help it. In the same way Hyesung couldn't.
Dumbest logic ever. It is rape only when done with the intention of raping. What you're saying is like tying up a man thoroughly, making someone ride his dick and then saying the tied up guy still raped the other person. Wtf? Here, the alpha is subjected to similar metaphorical ropes that bind him. That's what omegsverse is about.
Yeah, phew. So long!
I'm sure lots of men convicted of rape didn't "intend" to rape. It happens all the time. Look, I'm not shitting on the manwha and I understand what you guys are getting at, but I'm just calling it like it is. It was RAPE. Rape is a strong word, which is why people get up in arms about it, but its the truth. You can even turn around and say Hyesung raped Dojin when he was in heat.
Dude, Id understand if this was a normal yaoi but this is an omegaverse. The alphas have as much say in this matter as the omega. I hate this manhwa and I'm not afraid of calling out RAPE, when I see that's the case. It's just that this isn't one of them. If you're gonna argue that way, then if I injected you with an aphrodisiac and you went and fucked your colleague, does that make you a rapist? Even though you weren't a willing participant?
Men convicted of rape arent alphas or omegas man. This from the point of view of this manhwa, not reality.
I completely understand what you're saying. I know that because its omegaverse the theories on rape kind of change for some people. But to answer your question, if my colleague didn't consent then YES I would be a rapist. Now, would it be the same kind of rape as if I KNEW what I was doing? No, it wouldn't. And I know that kind of rape is different from omegaverse stories. I'm just saying because its a different kind of rape, it still it what it is.
(I also feel the need to mention that I'm not necessarily saying I'm right, or that others are wrong, I'm just simply giving a different viewpoint (that I side with more). I love this manwha and understand the controversies (on both sides) surrounding it.)
Bro, you aren't a rapist, you would also be a victim because you have also been drugged. So if you say it's rape on your part, then you would have volunteered to take that aphrodisiac. It's rape of both parties otherwise. You're the victim and your friend is a victim too. And how that translate if both of you are girls and you don't have dicks to put into each other? And both of your are hit with aphrodisiacs and end up having sex? You cant pin the blame on or girl here. You seem to be confused because of dicks. Since one of them put it in the other, he's a rapist. Now that's not how rape works.
How am I confused because of dicks? I assumed that I was a rapist and that the victim was a girl. I am a girl as well. Not sure where that came from. If this manhwa was Yuri, I'd still say the same thing lol. But yes I'm a victim in one case (being drugged) , and a rapist in the other. Because I DID in fact rape my colleague. I didn't intend to and didn't want to but it still happened
Why are you the rapist? Why isn't it the other way round? Since both your friend and you are drugged and are on the same level, why can't she be the rapist and you be the victim? Why are you bent on being the rapist? If you were the only.one drugged, you're the rapist? Wtf? You'd be the victim then. You didn't rape your friend because you weren't doing it consciously. It would be non-consensual sex from both parties.
What they meant by "confused by dicks" is that, when identifying a rapist, some people tend to point towards the one with the penetration ability. It's a double standard a lot of people subscribe to, "oh, men can't be raped by women because they are the ones putting their dick inside her". The anon brought up another scenario, what if you were both drugged then? Did you rape each other? Anyways, i honestly don't think this is a matter for debate, you think what you want, but no if you were drugged it wasn't rape since you had no intentions to rape. Even in court that wouldn't constitute as rape. This isn't the same as "convincing yourself you had no control", whole other scenario, that implies they could've stopped themselves and are trying to convince themselves they couldn't out of guilt. This is CONFIRMED, scientifically. They CANNOT stop themselves, it's not a matter of willpower or excuses. It's not that people who read omegaverse "have a different view on rape", it's that the people who read omegaverse and know how it works read and process everything with the rules in mind. In other words, you're looking at this out of context and aren't applying the rules that MAKE this an omegaverse. A misinterpretation. That is what the anon meant when they said your opinion is based on reality.
You worded this so well, thank you, I couldn't do that. Wish people would understand this instead of blaming the seme for rape.

This is so entertaining! Everyone is so triggered! I swear this comments section had NONE of this just this morning. GL everyone! Part of me wants to root for the anon because it's him vs the entire fucking comments section! Can't say i disagree with everyone else though, it clearly wasn't rape, the dialogue explicitly states that Dojin "lost all control" once his pheromones were released. I also don't think this is "low quality", but to each their own? ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭