Y'all really need to stop

kyra 23 October 23, 2018 8:56 am

This is what fargo stated on twitter:
왜 저를 걱정하는 분들이 계시지ㅋㅋ 혜성이 욕먹는건 하루이틀 일이 아닌데ㅋㅋ 아 근데 도진이가 강제로 한건 아니거든요 그렇게 보이나? 키스는 멋대로 하긴 했지만ㅋㅋ 혜성이가 no 했으면 계속 했을리 없구요... 콘돔도 썼구요.. 별이 동생 안생깁니다ㅋㅋㅋ
Translated:
Fargo: why are there people who worried about me? Lol, it's been a while since Hyesung was criticized but Dojin didn't force Hyesung. Does it look like it? Though he forcibly kissed Hyesung. If Hyesung said NO, Dojin wouldn't keep doing. A condom was used so there won't be another child.

Me: leave Fargo alone...that sex scene was not rape. Especially if you just seen screen shots and didn't read the chapter in english yet. I would say it's more like unreleased sexual tension. They talked it out somewhat and had sex. Like Fargo said, Hyesung didn't stop Dojin advances verbal or physically. In fact, he squeezed his shirt, which can illustrate that he wanted Dojin. Y'all really got the nerve to bother Fargo with this"rape" scene. You all are acting like its chapter 18 forced sex. I swear, if y'all wrote the story the way y'all wanted to, it would be terrible. Let Fargo, draw and write the story. Nothing wrong with criticism but if you feel that the sex in chapter 39 was rape, how about you all go email/tweet all the countless other yaoi writers/illustrators such as Mingwa (BJ Alex) that their work has rape in it. Become an example and write/draw some yaoi. That would be great.

https://mobile.twitter.com/13_fargo/status/1054605002969309184

Responses
    Clouds October 23, 2018 10:41 am

    BJ Alex does receive criticism for the sex scenes and behaviour motivated from anger, jealousy and losing control. The author choose to write a scene, that many perceive as rape or just being too full on for what was respectful and needed, Hye-sung "squeezing his shirt" or not saying "no" and using a condom really doesn't detract from the criticisms made here. When Dojin raped Hye-sung and incapacitated him because he was upset that Hye-sung was trying to leave, tht rightly received a backlash too for not showing Hye-sung as a victim but instead this fickle young man. This rape scene for many will have been the last straw, as it basically showed no character growth and Dojin getting angry that he was rejected and going for Hye-sung's neck, was unjustifiable, when at this point he really needed to listen and behave like an affectionate partner if a credible development of their relationship is to be made. It is a problem that using non consensual sex, power imbalances and poor communication are basically the bread and butter for this genre, so obviously it does have a market, but that doesn't mean we all have to agree with such tropes.

    kyra 23 October 23, 2018 11:14 am
    BJ Alex does receive criticism for the sex scenes and behaviour motivated from anger, jealousy and losing control. The author choose to write a scene, that many perceive as rape or just being too full on for ... Clouds

    Well stop reading Yaoi. If that scene bothers you so much to the point the the author is debating deleting the chapter then stop read in it. I follow Mingwa on Twitter and no one has commented on Jiwon's many sexual assualts against DG. That scene in chapter 39 was not rape at all. I want people to get a defintion to what rape is. I bet the same people including you will be right back when chapter 40 is released. Stop reading Yaoi or protest all yaoi authors if that scene bothers you. Start a #me too movement for yaoi. Demand that every single yaoi/BL author that (Korean, Japanese, Chinese etc) follows those rules. See how that goes... I'm sick of people like y'all who continue to complain over and over instead of doing something about it. Don't use this site, don't pay for their work (even though majority doesn't). Do something other than bitching about it. You feel like you want to stop the tropes. Stop it then...
    Stop harassing this woman on Twitter.

    Clouds October 23, 2018 11:20 am
    Well stop reading Yaoi. If that scene bothers you so much to the point the the author is debating deleting the chapter then stop read in it. I follow Mingwa on Twitter and no one has commented on Jiwon's many s... kyra 23

    Erm what? What has a few comments criticising poor writing equate to "harassing the author on twitter"? The comment section should be a free space where people can discuss the concerns of certain tropes or if they feel the plot has just gone to pot because of their usage. Most of the sex scenes in this webtoon haven't been consensual, nor has there been any real character growth. Going to avoid being repetitive, as it ha been discussed already why this chapter was violent and just disappointing.

    kyra 23 October 23, 2018 11:25 am
    Erm what? What has a few comments criticising poor writing equate to "harassing the author on twitter"? The comment section should be a free space where people can discuss the concerns of certain tropes or if t... Clouds

    I said what I said and I meant it. This chapter was not violent, he grabbed his face and kissed him. You are pulling stuff from your ass.

    Clouds October 23, 2018 11:34 am
    I said what I said and I meant it. This chapter was not violent, he grabbed his face and kissed him. You are pulling stuff from your ass. kyra 23

    This isn't what happened though, you know it, we all know it. Hye-sung was saying that he hated Dojin. Dojin then went for Hye-sung's neck, which you can see startled Hye-sung. He then kissed him without consent, and as a means to assert dominance. Sexual assault. Hye-sung was trying to sleep after a traumatic day, returning to an environment he hadn't been to in months to someone he still hardly knows. They aren't in a relationship with each other, Hye-sung hasn't even said that he has ever loved Dojin, it's Dojin who is trying to force things with no consideration of Hye-sung. Holding someone's neck, because you are angry that they have rejected you is despicable for people to justify and it's alarming that it isn't being recognised as assault.

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:23 pm
    This isn't what happened though, you know it, we all know it. Hye-sung was saying that he hated Dojin. Dojin then went for Hye-sung's neck, which you can see startled Hye-sung. He then kissed him without cons... Clouds

    There's a 'log off' button at the top of this page. Use it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:25 pm

    Also, I cannot believe this has gone to such an extent that people are actually trying to make the author change HER story. A new low for you. Congrats.

    Lucy In The Sky October 23, 2018 1:35 pm

    ALSO!

    Rape and assault are depicted in lots of media, books, novels, tv shows, and movies. There are tons of fictional sex scenes with heated tension, expressions and words. If this tamer scene bothers you so much, you might as well boycott and raise hell about everything else, become Amish and live in a very small village where the most controversial thing would be a group of migrating albino deer.

    Wanime October 23, 2018 8:53 pm

    This exactly how I read it. I can't believe all the grieve she is getting.

    Science Student. October 24, 2018 8:48 pm
    There's a 'log off' button at the top of this page. Use it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Lucy In The Sky

    They can leave their opinions, that's why there is a comment section.