This is weird

Even if she raised hell it wouldnt change much because its not the eight time for that movement to gain favor for women if that novel was true. Bra burning time.

Just ignore people who resort to insults. You don't need to waste energy on that.

Yep, these are all valid points. Personally, I'm not hating on this story specifically or anything, merely commenting on general trends in isekai comics (and novels) that I wish were different. When a single story like this is considered on its own, it may be handling an issue such as child marriage fairly moderately and consideredly (and we'll have to see how it all unfolds to be sure).

When considered as part of a genre or trend, one can begin to recognise certain values that are (perhaps subconsciously) perpetuated time and again. They may not be an issue if one story wrote about it, they would just be an interesting perspective, but when many do, it can feed what readers subconsciously see as normal or acceptable ways of thinking.

Of course, no reader is actually thinking "Oh yay, let's marry off my five-year-old daughter!" The influence film, television, manga and novels have is subtler than that. What it can do is subtly perpetuate the idea that relationships where one party is still immature and therefore impressionable are romantic, or where it is normal for a woman's fulfilling goal or means of survival is to marry/rely on a man. Many people, especially younger readers, aren't even aware of the concepts they form about romance, love, gender roles, independence, agency, fulfillment being influenced in this way.

So, rather than thinking "This story is horrible," I'm merely remaining critical of the bigger picture while I read anything, and sometimes wishing creators in general would come up with something different and original.

One final note. I am also aware that in some of these cultures it may be that even many modern women consider it natural, desirable and fulfilling to have marriage as a goal above and beyond any personal interests or vocations. I just find it, personally, disappointing that even the most entertaining isekai comics and stories rarely have a female MC who achieves her goals through her own ability without significant help from her (often super-powerful/-influential) ML. Compare that to similar stories with a male MC, and the FL (or leads) is usually somehow weaker and may even be fairly superfluous to the main plot.

Just some things I notice and wish were different. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Hehe. Yeah, I hate when people feel like they have to slam an opinion that's different from theirs. I don't mind if someone wants to present their own, differing view, but I dislike it when people see it as personal if someone thinks differently from them and has to make them see the error of their ways!

Personally, I don't care about age gaps in stories, my issue is with child marriage (in this story, setting aside the debate about whether she was married or merely engaged in infancy, she will be considered an adult at 13 or thereabouts, so that's still child marriage). What we know now is that it takes until roughly the end of adolescence for a brain to fully develop to the stage where its ability to predict and judge situations and to self-monitor and manage emotions and impulses (so there's no exact age, but setting adulthood at 18 or 20/21 is more reasonable). Before then, people are much more impressionable and susceptible to the influence of those around them and their own impulses.

So, I can usually somewhat suspend the realistic part of me if I'm reading a romance between a 17yo and an adult (depending on the story), but there is no getting away from the fact that an adult having a relationship with someone younger is problematic. That doesn't mean I can't read this story from the perspective of "it's normal in this world so people don't know any better," but it does mean I'm aware that the CREATOR chose this setting, and that the MC is supposed to be aware of these things, so I'd realistically expect some repulsion or resistance.

But I'm also aware that it's standard for these isekai stories not to bother about these things. The MCs accept servants, highly-stratified societies, slavery, taking up weapons as an occupation, becoming a concubine etc. often without batting sn eyelid. So, I merely WISH more stories were better than that, and I sometimes like to whine about it, even when they're otherwise great and entertaining stories. Hehe.

That's my personal opinion.

I completely agree with you and to your last response too.

Finally someone who get it! There is also another story in which the mc is the mother to the children of a duke, but he's like 40, 50 years old and she was like 16 or sth when they get married. The part that uncomfy me the most is that the eldest son IS BASICALLY THE SAME AGE AS HER, and the "love interest" is that son's enemy/used to be friend, WHO IS ALSO THE SAME AGE AS HER.

It's a shame that when modern ideals are taken into the story people complain about historical accuracy then when they bring in tid bits of things from actual history people complain that it's not appropriate. While yes it is unsettling, it's their social norms in that world. I tend to just look at it like we are peering into their world. Our ideals and norms don't follow us when experiencing the world that has been brought to us.

Why are people literally defending child marriage and pedos just bc it was normal back then like it’s NOT something that’s easily accepted now and I’m pretty sure the author knows that. It’s creepy and gross, out of all things to make ‘historically accurate’ it had to be fucking child marriage...

Historically accurate? You do understand that this manga is screwing history big deal? Like, seriously. It isn't even that far fetched, this manga is just a projection of the fantasme of the author, nothing more.

Where did you see the pediophilia? I must have missed it, I think it's in your mind like the other commenters who are calling this out.

Girl stfu, you know this is creepy ash don’t defend it.

I see, you must be around 14.. k , nuff said

This conversation literally ended a month ago, why are you still trying to argue with people who don’t have the same opinion as you?? You already stated how you felt and why you don’t see this story as creepy. And that’s great! This girl obvious doesn’t agree with you even after seeing the whole thread, so what you say isn’t going to change her mind. Also, the fact that you want to assume that someone is 14 just because they don’t have the same opinion as you.....yikes..... Stop being immature and move on.

Because I was responded to a month later.. so I answered... Because when I said my opinion I was told to STFU... it's not about a different opinion, it's about rudeness.

I’m 18 LMFAO, also if even if I was a 14 year old- my statement still stands. I’m telling you it’s creepy, the fact that you’re so desperate to defend a marriage between a 12 year old and a nearly 30 year old man just bc it was the norm back then is stupid. This was published recently, not 200 fucking years ago.

You were told to shut the fuck up because you’re a fucking creep, never go near kids pls

lol..

Ok but all those who hate it just becouse the age difference are unable to read it as a fantasy or what? I do not understand why does this happen allways in these mangas comment section. I read it and I keep it on a level where I accept it in a story but not in reality. But everyone is making a mess because it is not acceptable now and was acceptable in the past does it even matter in a fantasy if it is a fantasy? And how do you know for sure that the author wanted to be historically accurate Sorry to butt into the conversation.┗( T﹏T )┛
I also can not understand when some started the same thing under I am a chiled of this house. The age difference there was at the most 7 years and they made a fuss about it as if he was 30 years older than her. And not only there. But when I read the coments that even that much was too far appart in age I was like fuck then what about a lot of parents in this world who are 9 or more years appart. Huh? My parent are 50 and 41, I am 20 shuold I be ashamed that my parents are not the same age as well?#－.－) sorry I am usually not the type to argue but I read too much comment about age gaps this and that. Sometime I question the sanity of a few people. ╥﹏╥

I don’t care about age gaps if they’re 18+. But it’s when you put an 12 year old and a 30 year old (or whatever his age is) in a marriage together is when I have a problem. We don’t know for sure if the author wants this to be historically accurate, it’s just the way she’s writing the story for me that’s turning me off. Yes fantasy is fantasy, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be okay with things like pedophilia (for an ex) in a story just because it’s fantasy. That’s like saying pedophilia is okay in a fantasy story just because it’s fantasy. Pedophilia is disgusting and I personally don’t read stories with that in it. Same thing with child marriage. There are many historical stories that are about child marriage, but usually it’s about the child overcoming it and escaping the marriage. The problem that I have with this story is that he’s treating a child like his wife which is weird and grooming in a way. He’s literally raising her and the fact that she’s going to grow up to be her caretaker’s wife is off putting to me. So you can enjoy this if you want to, but I have no idea how you can enjoy a story about child marriage just because it’s fantasy. Also, I don’t read “I am a child of this house”, so I can’t really speak on it.

Okay first of all, you could apply that to literally any fucking story. ‘Just bc it’s a book and it’s not actually happening irl it’s fine’ But that’s literally adding onto the problem, child marriages although not a social norm occur A LOT- it’s not just a silly issue that ppl choose to ignore. Second of all, if the author didn’t want to make it ‘historically accurate’ then why tf make her a 12 year old. It holds barely any relevance to the story, her being an adult wouldn’t change the plot of the story at all. What was the point of making her a fucking child.
And NOWW you’re talking about the age gap between your parents, was your mother a fucking child when she married your father or was she an adult that could make conscious decisions for herself?
STOP and I repeat STOP defending shit like this, it’s literally impossible to read this on a ‘fantasy level’ when she’s literally a 12 year old marrying a 30 year old man. Also I just wanna say, when she does become of age and they do have sex- that’s still considered child grooming LMAO.