I’m literally over redeeming fuckboy plots. Who cares if you have mommy and daddy issue...

You get it!

I dont disagree with you on the story plot thing bc they surely can be repetitive. It's quite inevitable in my opinion since there are thousands of stories out there, and when you read enough, story plots will start to look similar to each other.

I do think the whole trope "love can change people" thing is quite naive. We love to believe that love is a powerful cure that it can change an entire person. I mean, this notion might be true. Love can be the motivation for someone to change for the better, but at the same time, humans are creature of habits, and people just don't change that easily. People who have "problematic" personalities/behaviors in reality do need something more than love, it's therapy--a lot of therapy to overcome their trauma.

Another point, I feel like simply telling people to stop being an asshole won't really solve the problem. It's like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed, an obese person to stop eating, or a bully to stop bullying. They're just not gonna stop simply bc we tell them to. We gotta to find the root cause that leads to that person's depression, overeating, or bullying in order to actually solve their problem.

Going back to your opinion on fboy plot, I think the reason why people like them or "problematic" characters is bc they tend to have more depth and complicated story. It's something people might feel related to, and when they root for a bad person who turns "good," it just feels good and positive in general. I personally like to believe that people generally want to be "good." You know, most of us don't wake up every single day thinking: "Hmm, how do I hurt other people today?" This might just be me, but I often look at 2D characters as normal human beings instead of characterizing them as "good" or "bad." It just makes me feel like I can relate to them bc as humans, we are way more complicated than just "good" and "bad," and anybody, even the "good" people, can be manipulated and have the capability to turn "bad" under stressful pressure.

The fboy character we see in the webtoon didn't have the brightest childhood, so he carried his trauma/scars into adulthood by doing "bad" things to fill up his emptiness/resentment. He isn't, however, entirely heartless as we saw him saved a suicidal person and gave him money. I think this is the case with most "problematic" people in real life. People turn to alcohol, drugs, have crazy sex every night, say hurtful things, etc. not bc they truly want to, but bc they themselves have been hurt, things don't work out for them, they feel empty in life, etc. Obviously, their past trauma is NOT an excuse for them to be an asshole. However, I do sympathize with what people might have had go through before they reach to that point, and I do believe they should be given a second chance.

I kinda like flawed characters! It’s easy to relate to them cause in real life majority of people are dicks, and I won’t exclude myself from that list! Not proud of it but I’ve done dick as things in life, I own up to them and try them change! I’m far different from the good protagonists I read in these stories!

Lol yea I totally agree with it
I was just a bit annoyed at the person who said “raised right”
I just hear it a lot as an insult since I was born in a single parent family and ppl here are just more conservative and judging so I get a bit mad everytime someone say that
For the second character..hmm I dun like them more than the first couple but I just really like the cleaner company owner so I’m extra invested lol
I just hope the asshole seme really really apologize for it or the uke gets a new guy

You took it that way, "raised right" can be meant as many things. You don't have to even have parents in your life to be raised right, it could be another family member, another adult figure outside your family, or even yourself. You jumped to conclusions thinking I was talking about living a white picket fence life with two parents and a good neighborhood, which isn't the case. And I was never saying anyone was perfect, I just said not everyone is a piece of shit like that person claimed. In my definition, "raised right" means having enough human decency to be sympathetic and knowing right from wrong, which doesn't matter how you grew up, rich, poor, single parent, both parents, or none at all.

Exactly this!!

Lol well it was what I meant too
not exactly “family” just people who raise u is valid too
From my first response that’s what I meant ( maybe I didn’t specific it as much ) well I’m not blaming u or assuming ur intention in using the phrase “raised right”

I’m just saying that I might be a bit too excessively talkative or emotional due to my personal experience <- me explaining to the other person who replied to my first response and not me responding to u with the “raised right” reply

And also the phrase “raised right” literally just mean they were raised the right way by whoever ( family or guardians )to have human decency
But I think by “pieces of shit” I think the person who commented it meant it as in not being great person
I dun think she/he/they meant it as people who dun “have enough decency to be sympathetic and..”

So the first response was me arguing with the fact that being raised right even to have general human decency still doesn’t make them not “pieces of shit” ( in the way that I interpreted what the first person said )
So I still stand by my first response just becoz ppl are “raised right” by ur definition, I still dun think they are not “pieces of shit”
Hope u dun take it as me being mad lol
I just really enjoy sharing opinions online and have debates
Makes me learn more perspectives and all~

my comment was deleted. I had a lot to say but I'm too lazy to type out the whole thing again. It's also frustrating that I can't unlike a comment. Earlier I meant to dislike a comment, but I accidentally click like instead, and I can't undo it.

oh nvm, I saw my comment lol

Yoonseol literally has one of the best character developments I have seen. He was shitty before, no doubt, but he goes above and beyond for Jungsoo's sake to change himself and redeem himself.

I don’t know how you came across this three year old post, but you’re absolutely right. This post is also ironic given how the rest of the story plays out in relation to the main couple.

Your comment was one of the top most, so that's how I ended up here, lol