LET'S WAIT

friesisgoodwithsalt December 19, 2020 8:31 pm

Why so many of you don't like seungho when in fact we don't really know why he's like that. I'm not defending him or what but I look more closely at the point of view of each character. All we know is nakyum's story but do we have any idea about seungho's history? We only saw some hints from his past and it hasn't been explained much yet. I'm sure that whatever happened to him before is the reason why he's like that now.

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    Atlas December 19, 2020 8:32 pm

    I'm sorry, but its been 60 chapters. That should be more than enough time for character development. The fact that he had the audacity to say that the painter ran away, even though the evidence of the painter being kidnapped stared right in his face, he isn't going to change and if he is, its going to he some sort of cliche "I was wrong, im sorry" type that came out of nowhere.

    If im talking about the wrong character, im sorry

    Seoksope December 19, 2020 8:33 pm

    ... no matter the back story that does NOT negate from what hes doing now tho? what type of back story could provide a justifiable reasoning for him doing this lmao. yes, his back story is probably super complex, and when it does come out it can probably help us relate to why he seemingly struggles with his emotions, but that doesnt mean anything hes doing rn is justifiable OR forgivable :) obviously when it comes out people will become apologists, and we all know this story will most likely end with him being completely redeemed, but hes still an asshole on his own accord

    Moon December 19, 2020 8:35 pm

    it’s the justifying rape, assault and kidnapping for me

    Aya December 19, 2020 8:43 pm
    it’s the justifying rape, assault and kidnapping for me Moon

    Nobody justifies the rape....its just the story is with a fuqed in the head character who happens to have a tendency to be a rapist..

    itbelikethat December 19, 2020 8:46 pm
    I'm sorry, but its been 60 chapters. That should be more than enough time for character development. The fact that he had the audacity to say that the painter ran away, even though the evidence of the painter b... Atlas

    i completely agree with you except for one thing, there isn’t really evidence nakyum was kidnapped. that’s the point. even the other servants (aside from mister kim, bless his intuition) believe nakyum ran away. “no name” is a professional assassin and he was asked to return nakyum instead of killing him, so of course he’s going to go to some pretty great lengths to make it seem like nakyum ran away but changed his mind, so that nothing is traced back to him. even when they found naykum in the snow, there was only one set of footprints, which they would obviously think is his since no one else was there.

    other than that i agree, seungho isn’t using his mind to think rationally about this, and in over sixty chapters the only “development” we’ve seen in his character is that he could confess his feelings when he was practically out of his mind with a fever. i can’t imagine how many more chapters it would take for him to become a proper “good” person and/or apologize :/

    Atlas December 19, 2020 8:46 pm
    Nobody justifies the rape....its just the story is with a fuqed in the head character who happens to have a tendency to be a rapist.. Aya

    ...yeah, and people are acting like kts okay. Kinda like that you're sort of doing because, he has ears. He has a head. He can be like, "oh wait, they don't like this" instead of being like "well, your body says it likes it" even though thats a reaction you can't control because thats how the body reacts to that stuff and its not something you can control.

    Atlas December 19, 2020 8:48 pm
    i completely agree with you except for one thing, there isn’t really evidence nakyum was kidnapped. that’s the point. even the other servants (aside from mister kim, bless his intuition) believe nakyum ran ... itbelikethat

    I'm pretty sure there was his coat with blood around it, or smth stained on the ground around it. And then he saw marks on his wrist. And the dude asleep (or knocked out, I dont remember) on the ground.

    Moon December 19, 2020 8:49 pm
    Nobody justifies the rape....its just the story is with a fuqed in the head character who happens to have a tendency to be a rapist.. Aya

    to me, it looks like OP is trying to justify all of the shitty things seungho has done by using the “maybe he had a bad past!” card. that’s not supposed to change anything

    Moon December 19, 2020 8:51 pm
    ...yeah, and people are acting like kts okay. Kinda like that you're sort of doing because, he has ears. He has a head. He can be like, "oh wait, they don't like this" instead of being like "well, your body say... Atlas

    very good point. physics logical reactions do not grant consent. you can still org*sm during nonconsensual intercourse. seungho knows what he is doing, he just does not care

    Moon December 19, 2020 8:52 pm
    very good point. physics logical reactions do not grant consent. you can still org*sm during nonconsensual intercourse. seungho knows what he is doing, he just does not care Moon

    physiological reactions *

    itbelikethat December 19, 2020 8:56 pm
    I'm pretty sure there was his coat with blood around it, or smth stained on the ground around it. And then he saw marks on his wrist. And the dude asleep (or knocked out, I dont remember) on the ground. Atlas

    i remember the marks on his wrist, can’t remember if there was blood on his coat. either way, i know no name obviously did his best to make it look like he ran away because i’m pretty sure attempted murder would grant him like...the death penalty or something lmao. anyway that’s the only thing i disagreed with but at least mister kim has his head on straight. i pretty much agree with you and @Moon here. no justifications for what seungho has done and is still doing.

    hwi's h0e December 19, 2020 9:07 pm

    Lmaooo just say you're a rapist apologist and go. We're already on season 2, we've seen his background, yes he has trauma but that doesn't mean he's allowed to rape. You CAN'T keep defending him at this point

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:10 pm
    I'm sorry, but its been 60 chapters. That should be more than enough time for character development. The fact that he had the audacity to say that the painter ran away, even though the evidence of the painter b... Atlas

    I feel averted to the rape too but I think you and most people here are being like him TBH not being in control with their rage haha....now about evidence.....when your head is filled with betrayal and rage "will your brain be in detective mode?" Specially if you are a well established fuqed up character who has a violent streak slashing people with a sword type when he is displeased.... wouldn't he consider rape a lesser punishment normal?.....now about development.....no way he is way developed in the story yet to forgive or to second thought a perceived betrayal....he was just barely opening up when he confessed his affection if you put yourself as the character with that kind of info and with that kind of consciousness the action he did is pretty much predictable.…adding up to his possible assumption that the person he confessed to highly likely to despise him and an escape is expected....with that kind of psyche...its likely....

    IAM NO WAY DEFENDING HIM OK what he did everything is wrong and HIS EXPERIENCES are not an EXCUSE....we all know what we are getting when we started with this comic this is a story about a person with a deranged personality and in my opinion the author did a good job depicting abusive people...the best experience to see how genuine the story is to see it in the characters lenses than a readers point of view....but I GET YOU GUYS YOUR FEELINGS ARE VALID CUS DAMN WHO WANTS RAPE??...what I am trying to express is take the story for what it is about and not what the character should act in your opinion...whats best to look for is the WILL BE DEMISE or SALVATION for bith these characters I am hoping for a HAPPY END but I lobe me some tragedy too

    hwi's h0e December 19, 2020 9:15 pm
    I feel averted to the rape too but I think you and most people here are being like him TBH not being in control with their rage haha....now about evidence.....when your head is filled with betrayal and rage "wi... Aya

    Seungho was wrong in everything he did, that's all. I get the way he acted was true to him and realistic, and that's why he'll never deserve Nakyum. They better not end up together

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:25 pm
    ... no matter the back story that does NOT negate from what hes doing now tho? what type of back story could provide a justifiable reasoning for him doing this lmao. yes, his back story is probably super comple... Seoksope

    Well in real life it happens hence the abuse stories and people in jail that you can pretty much see in every docu or series about it or the news....yep it is wrong and they need help... and all the bad they did is not excusable.."I BET THAT WHAT IS THE AUTHOR WANTS US TO FEEL" as powerless readers ohhh the torture ahahah...it might end just like you said or it could also be a tragedy that I am waiting for but this is so far an accurate depiction of abusive people...

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:32 pm
    Seungho was wrong in everything he did, that's all. I get the way he acted was true to him and realistic, and that's why he'll never deserve Nakyum. They better not end up together hwi's h0e

    Yep he doesn't deserve him he's a real bad mofo...but in the end just like in real life many people are blinded by love and forgive what we outsiders see as unforgivable....and that will be a hard pill to swallow if it ever ends that way ahaha

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:35 pm
    Lmaooo just say you're a rapist apologist and go. We're already on season 2, we've seen his background, yes he has trauma but that doesn't mean he's allowed to rape. You CAN'T keep defending him at this point hwi's h0e

    Chill girl/boy whats he's tryin to say is that what he did is normal with that kind of psyche.....not RIGHT.....take it this way the being gay is not considered normal....but that doesn't mean its RIGHT... hope this helps

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:42 pm
    ...yeah, and people are acting like kts okay. Kinda like that you're sort of doing because, he has ears. He has a head. He can be like, "oh wait, they don't like this" instead of being like "well, your body say... Atlas

    Things can BE NORMAL and NOT RIGHT at the same time example... being persecuted/discriminated for being GAY is normal but its not right NOBODY IS CONSIDERING ANYTHING AS RIGHT.....they are just explaining what he did is NORMAL for a person with that kinda psyche....not RIGHT

    Aya December 19, 2020 9:58 pm

    This should stop.....you are all mad about seungho bein crazy but you all are acting the same as seungho blinded by rage of thing not goin your way so when you see a pro seungho comment you gang up on the poor guy when he just PROBABLY MISSED EXPRESSING his point .... you guys should realize by now that things could be NORMAL and UNJUST at the same time we are reading on a site which is not considered right but IT seems normal to many of us guys and on top of that about gay people which is the epic example of NORMAL AND UNJUST....NOBODY IS PROCLAIMING THINGS ARE RIGHT.....OK.....JUST NORMAL AND EXPECTED....

    Atlas December 20, 2020 1:42 am
    This should stop.....you are all mad about seungho bein crazy but you all are acting the same as seungho blinded by rage of thing not goin your way so when you see a pro seungho comment you gang up on the poor ... Aya

    We're just saying that what he's doing is wrong and that he already had a lot of time to change. Just because its shown in yaoi a lot, doesn't mean we aren't allowed to talk about it. People will comment on this because its that common when it really shouldn't be. Same in real life.