The mental gymnastics and gaslighting in this comment is laughable. It is rape because Tae Seung isn't a mind reader. All he knows is Soo Young is telling him to stop but he is refusing to. That is the definition of rape. Stop trying to convince people that this isn't rape when it clearly is and just be honest with yourself. I would have at least a sliver of respect for people like you if you just admitted that you enjoy rape instead of trying to delude yourself and others into thinking that situations like in this story aren't rape when they are.
Are you reading Sooyoung monologue properly or not? Don't focus on the smut scene. Read again what Sooyoung talk to himself not the moaning stop things then come again.
Did you not read what I wrote? The monologue doesn't matter because Tae Seung can't read Soo Young's mind. It's rape. Get over it.
Y’all bitches always got something to say. Bottoms r always saying stop out of embarrassment if u actually READ the fucking story instead of commenting bullshit it shows that Soo Young wanted it, Tae Sung of course can’t read his mind dude, but a human can read another human’s expression. Like bitch if Soo Young kept saying no and he didn’t want it he would’ve punched the bitch like ummmmmm stfu. If y’all bitches that always got something to say can’t handle when the bottom cries and tells the top to stop out of embarrassment even if they want it, then stop reading bl and start reading shounen ai. Matter fact u just read this so what does that say about u?
Thank you. Not to mention this will have ppl thinking that when someone’s saying stop during sex what the really mean is yes, keep going, when it’s far from that. If Soo young told him to stop, Taeseung should have stoped. If Soo young was really enjoying it he would have told him that it was ok to keep going after he stopped. That shit is fcking ugly and disgusting and hella triggering. I hate when ppl try and justify that weirdo shit.
Haha imagine getting this mad over someone's opposing opinion. Based on your dumb logic, I can force myself upon someone even if they tell me no if I think their expression is telling me yes? You are just embarrassing yourself.
Y’all r fucking hilarious if u can’t take this bullshit then stop reading it oml. If Soo Young didn’t want it he would’ve put up a fight the bottom only says it out of embarrassment if Taesung were to actually stop you would see Soo Young disappointed. Please pay attention as u can clearly see that Soo Young wants it. There is a difference between rape and hardcore hun if your gonna complain then go read Shounen or some shit like that because u obviously can’t take shit like this. Rape is what Minhyuk did rape is not what Taesung did,get your facts right bitch (●'◡'●)
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Not you cursin’ me out over a manhwa. As a person who has experience something similar to rape I don’t fucking appreciate that shit bro. Stop talkin crazy, you really wildin’ right now and I’m not fcken wit it. Ik it isn’t rape but it has the energy of it. How someone saying stop over and over again and you keep tf at it? Please open your eyes and look at it from others prospectives.
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Y’all literally missing the point. Ppl are saying it’s rape because this “hardcore” shit is very much tight-roping between the two. We’re trying to express our distaste with how much Soo young is saying stop. I understand that it’s not forced because you see his inner monologue is showing that he’s enjoying it, but Taeseung isn’t hearing that inner monologue, and because of that it’s basically just Soo young saying “Stop” “I can’t take it anymore” which is where ppl are getting that “It’s rape” thing from. Imaging reading the story WITHOUT Soo young’s inner monologue. That’s exactly what Taeseung is seeing. Do y’all understand now?
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Isn’t that what I’m doing? I’m sorry u had to go through that but as u can see Soo Young wants it. If it’s rape, I think about how the bottom is feeling is they actually want it or not. You’re right to the average person it looks like rape but I’m saying it’s not rape if a person were to consent they would still be saying no stop. I have read a few mangas where when the bottom or top says stop and when they do they look disappointed I’m just looking at it from Soo Young’s perspective. I’m sorry u had to go through that but I’m just saying that in hardcore bl the bottom or top is always saying stop but then they say keep going.
Excuse me, but how dare you. You no nothing about me or my life and to be this disrespectful. In no way do I condone rape. I’m explaining what this is and it’s clear he’s enjoying it. It’s highly sensitive and the mafia guy is rough, but he enjoys it. He wouldn’t have begged for it in the car or the other time if he didn’t! His monologue which is clear that he does and the man can read his reactions, his body.
I would have more respect for your response if it was respectful but what you responded was ridiculous.
For one it is t weirdo shot, domination including in a form of light bdsm is what we are seeing. I’m sorry but that’s incorrect about him telling him. We see it all the time in these comics/manga/manwha that the character utilizes those words at times even though they still want it and it’s the same with Soo young’s character. He’s embarrassed, insecure, and shy which is apart of his character due to him being raped by his EX. The mafia boss is dominant. Why? He’s in the mafia and used to exerting dominance. If you really think he would rape him as you say, there why during that whole chapter where he talked about protecting him and even Soo young seeing his gentleness towards him?
I’m not justifying rape. My aunt was raped, my mother was assaulted as a child, and I’ve experienced harassment myself. So, don’t talk like you know anything about me and what I’m thinking. If you payed attention closely to what is happening in their interactions throughout the story you would clearly see it. If you don’t, then this has been happening for the last two chapters, why are you still reading it?
You say it isn’t rape but the energy of it? Yes, I agree with you regarding the feel of it and as I mentioned in my comment that fact. HOWEVER, you need to understand that this is a manwha. Not a descriptive book, a film, a tv show. There are limitations to expressing a characters feeling. To base everything on the word “stop” in this context is invalid. In manga and manwha there are times when the bottom will say stop but the top continues, knowing that the bottom is embarrassed. If you even look at his response, he doesn’t just say “stop” but “not here...” “wait...”, “no....wait”. The reason? Because they are having sex right at the door of transition point from the door to the hall to the door of the apartment. It’s clear he’s embarrassed to be taken on the ground in front of the door and not the bed.
I can’t believe that here are some people I don’t know going after me about a comment and judging my integrity. You’ve not only been rude to me but others saying the most disgusting things when I have touched upon this subject matter as kindly and respectively as a possible. Proves to me that this isn’t a place to share opinions, ideas, etc. it’s a place for people to attack others.
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The thing is, when he’s saying, “I can’t take it anymore” that’s a saying found in many of comics like these where the uke is about to cum. They are overwhelmed with the pleasure and sensitive that they beg to stop though it feels good. You might think that’s me referring to rape but I’ve read enough manga/manwha for 10 years to know the difference.
So, for the rest of your life or anyone else attacking this comment going to look past the text and analyze what is happening with what would this mean without the text; the dialogue? If so, I recommend that you look for other reading than this or anything here really. You can’t look do that with these pieces especially with the lack of what a novel can provide.
Exactly. I feel like people only see "stop" "no" and the words after are tossed away. And they just conclude it is rape. Do you remember when soo young wanted sex and he couldn't even tell taesung, he had to knock taesung down and climb on him. Taesung then understood that he actually wanted to have sex. He was embarrassed and shy. I don't think he will ever blatantly ask for sex. He gives hint whenever he wants sex. I would have loved if they make all ukes ask for sex even if they have to die of embarrassment or are shy.
Stop with the fake pearl clutching. Many people and myself agree that this was rape and we're calling it out. If you are so strong in your beliefs that this wasn't rape and that's the hill you wanna die on, then don't act like the victim when people call you out.
You said my response was ridiculous, but your initial post was pure clownery.
I know a lot of people thing that what’s going on is rape due to the amount of times the word “stop” was used. That’s understandable especially because we are reading it and not hearing it. However, what is happening in this chapter and the the previous is not rape. It’s clearly not rape due to the inner monologue we are getting from the main character. He is being dominated and by the facial expressions and thoughts point to that being it.
I will agree that it’s a little uncomfortable to read especially when dialogue is all that we have to rely on but it isn’t what you think. If anyone thinks differently that’s fine and I understand where you are coming from. Rape is disgusting and “stop” and “no” are absolutely words that are commanding and should be listened to in the time of an individual not giving consent. However, in this relationship (Mc and big boss enjoying each other) and because it’s a comic (limited by words/dialogue translation), these words have a different meaning and are not as straight forward.