Y'all shouldn't...

iamaFUJOSHI December 27, 2020 4:14 pm

I understand the sentiment in wanting the scrumptious butler demon getting involved in a BL-centered story, I want to remind yall that Ciel is A CHILD. PLEASE DON'T BEG FOR A BL WITH THEM BECAUSE YALL DAMN WELL KNOW IT'S NOT ONLY ILLEGAL BUT IMMORAL. That's all, thanks.

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    Kellible January 6, 2021 5:36 am

    I think it was SUPPOSED to be a BL at first but then they changed the genre and THANK GOD they did-

    iamaFUJOSHI January 7, 2021 9:13 am
    I think it was SUPPOSED to be a BL at first but then they changed the genre and THANK GOD they did- Kellible

    Very thankful they didn't. It would've been fine if Ciel was a legal adult but no

    Eryale January 7, 2021 3:08 pm
    I think it was SUPPOSED to be a BL at first but then they changed the genre and THANK GOD they did- Kellible

    Nope, it was never supposed to be, the "author wanted this to be a bl but the editor denied it" is only a headcanon that got out of hand bc of the fans and the fact that the anime has some really weird scenes between Ciel and Sebastian

    Quicksilver January 13, 2021 2:17 am

    Ciel is a character in a comic book. He's not REAL. He's not a kid. He's 1600 pixels, maybe 600 dpi. You need to learn to separate fact from fiction, morality from entertainment. Anyway, LOL there's already tons of that kind of dj

    Quicksilver January 13, 2021 2:19 am
    Nope, it was never supposed to be, the "author wanted this to be a bl but the editor denied it" is only a headcanon that got out of hand bc of the fans and the fact that the anime has some really weird scenes b... Eryale

    If the author wanted it to be BL, then at one time it was supposed to be BL. Maybe you want it to never have been BL, but it did start out that way. Why would you have a problem with that?

    iamaFUJOSHI January 13, 2021 2:44 pm
    Ciel is a character in a comic book. He's not REAL. He's not a kid. He's 1600 pixels, maybe 600 dpi. You need to learn to separate fact from fiction, morality from entertainment. Anyway, LOL there's alread... Quicksilver

    hahaha I'm guessing you're either a small child with no firm grasp of morality in fiction yet OR you have a predator mindset/predatory tendencies. No Fiction does reflect on reality, and if a 13 year old got fucked by an adult (let alone an old fucking demon) it would be considered pedophilia and illegal. Shut up, child, and think about how wrong that is.

    Quicksilver January 13, 2021 8:48 pm
    hahaha I'm guessing you're either a small child with no firm grasp of morality in fiction yet OR you have a predator mindset/predatory tendencies. No Fiction does reflect on reality, and if a 13 year old got fu... iamaFUJOSHI

    It's wrong in RL, not fiction. Of course fiction applies to reality because it is based on the human condition, but that doesn't mean that reality is based on fiction. People watch violence in media all the time, yet it doesn't incite an entire population to violence. Also, when you try to create an environment hostile to Freedom of Speech, you will need to step over a mountain of complications. You are allowed only to censor yourself. you aren't allowed to determine and direct someone else's freedom.
    Last, I think you've got a lot of nerve to speak to me so disrespectfully.

    Eryale January 14, 2021 11:12 am
    If the author wanted it to be BL, then at one time it was supposed to be BL. Maybe you want it to never have been BL, but it did start out that way. Why would you have a problem with that? Quicksilver

    What do you not understand in the phrase "it's only a headcanon that got out of hand"? The "fact" that Black Butler was supposed to be a BL is just a rumour and has been denied. The author themselves said that they had no problem with gay relationships, but that he never planned on having one in Black Butler, and that wether or not a character is gay shouldn't matter to the story

    Quicksilver January 14, 2021 2:17 pm
    What do you not understand in the phrase "it's only a headcanon that got out of hand"? The "fact" that Black Butler was supposed to be a BL is just a rumour and has been denied. The author themselves said that ... Eryale

    and yet there's plenty of BL dj that closely resembles the work of yana tobaso

    Quicksilver January 14, 2021 2:27 pm
    What do you not understand in the phrase "it's only a headcanon that got out of hand"? The "fact" that Black Butler was supposed to be a BL is just a rumour and has been denied. The author themselves said that ... Eryale

    to me a headcanon is a very large spit wad launcher. Lot's of people go around quoting authors who never said the things they are claiming the author said. You put a lot of words in this author's mouth, but until you can reference your "facts," you're just another bullshlt artist.

    Quicksilver January 14, 2021 2:34 pm
    hahaha I'm guessing you're either a small child with no firm grasp of morality in fiction yet OR you have a predator mindset/predatory tendencies. No Fiction does reflect on reality, and if a 13 year old got fu... iamaFUJOSHI

    Here's something for you to think about: There's obvious proof that Ciel is not a real child. He runs a household of the high aristocracy of England in the 19th century. He owns and runs his own international business. He has knowledge that children can't possibly possess. He is a decorated English lord, landowner, and overseer. he works as a detective for the queen. His dress, manner, and curt way of establishing his superiority and suzerainty is not possible in a child. He is an adult in a small body, obviously. That he is capable of so many things that children aren't, further establishes him as a fictional character, and rules that apply to children don't apply to him. That doesn't mean he should be sexually molested. It means he is not an actual child. He's not an actual adult either. He's a fictional character, a great one.
    I don't give a rat's ass about reading BL with the "scrumptious" Butler. It has no appeal for me, but you can't accuse people who are begging for BL stories of breaking the law. You're lying to the other commenters.

    Eryale January 16, 2021 8:47 am
    to me a headcanon is a very large spit wad launcher. Lot's of people go around quoting authors who never said the things they are claiming the author said. You put a lot of words in this author's mouth, but u... Quicksilver

    YOU'RE LITTERALLY THE ONE PUTTING THE WORDS IN THE AUTHOR'S MOUTH BC YOU WANT THIS TO BE A SHOTA BL SO BADLY LMFAOOOOO you literally just need to go on the author's twitter to verify what I said but noooo, I am the big meanie who doesn't believe in the fact that black butler was supposed to be a bl è-é bouhouhou you just invalidated my opinion so harshly I'm gonna cryyyyyy.... Anyway if you're too lazy to go on their Twitter here's some links https://www.google.com/amp/s/abybweisse.tumblr.com/post/142115687179/i-think-the-it-was-supposed-to-be-a-yaoi-rumour/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbook.com/anime/amp/news/black-butler-yaoi-boys-love-anime-ciel-sebastian-anime/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/aminoapps.com/v/s/aminoapps.com/c/black-butler/amp/blog/black-butler-meant-to-be-a-yaoi-rumor/3WY8_aVvTBu7voxnWXVvQRJYzjmgp4RPpnz%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%253D%253D#ampf=

    Eryale January 16, 2021 8:49 am
    and yet there's plenty of BL dj that closely resembles the work of yana tobaso Quicksilver

    Also that's the dumbest argument I've ever heard, you do realize that people can copy other's art style/can just straight up trace some parts? Have you never seen all of the art challenges "drawing a character in different popular artstyles"?

    iamaFUJOSHI January 16, 2021 1:42 pm
    It's wrong in RL, not fiction. Of course fiction applies to reality because it is based on the human condition, but that doesn't mean that reality is based on fiction. People watch violence in media all the t... Quicksilver

    This discussion is hilarious- listen to yourself. I'm not squashing your freedom of speech or whatever, I'm simply correcting your speech because the content we're talking about is illegal. What "right" will apply when discussing something against the law. Also-

    Gasp! I have a lot of nerve? I must not be human then... If you want to earn the respect of a nameless, faceless stranger on the internet so badly then act like a respectable human being first. For heaven's sake- IT MIGHT NOT BE REAL BUT IT AFFECTS REAL PEOPLE! What is so hard to understand about that?

    iamaFUJOSHI January 16, 2021 1:46 pm
    and yet there's plenty of BL dj that closely resembles the work of yana tobaso Quicksilver

    THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! It incites content that explicitly shows pornographic material between a child and a (virtual) adult. The fandom has it twisted with the slash between them. It shouldn't be that way! People can make djs and stuff and enjoy it but THAT IS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! Same with other famdoms like HQ and MHA who have a ton of materials like this- just because there's a lot of it doesn't mean it's morally correct or justified.

    Quicksilver January 16, 2021 2:01 pm
    THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! It incites content that explicitly shows pornographic material between a child and a (virtual) adult. The fandom has it twisted with the slash between them. It shouldn't be that way... iamaFUJOSHI

    to be child pornography, there has to be a child. Children are not made out of pixels. I'm constantly surprised by people like you who are so determined to lose their freedom.

    Quicksilver January 16, 2021 2:03 pm
    THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! It incites content that explicitly shows pornographic material between a child and a (virtual) adult. The fandom has it twisted with the slash between them. It shouldn't be that way... iamaFUJOSHI

    and... I don't give a rat's ass about looking at a sebastian/ciel hookup. It doesn't interest me in the least.

    Quicksilver January 17, 2021 3:52 am
    Also that's the dumbest argument I've ever heard, you do realize that people can copy other's art style/can just straight up trace some parts? Have you never seen all of the art challenges "drawing a character ... Eryale

    You are the one who is stupid. It's bloody hard to copy another artist's style. To draw someone else's characters so they are identical in every aspect is nearly impossible. While I have my doubts about the dj's Sebastian character, for the most part that artist is doing an excellent job of creating a near-perfect imitation, and I could believe it was Yana Tobaso's work. Jesus Christ, are you an artist? You think someone can trace someone else's art? I should laugh right in your face the same way you're trying to laugh in mine. Why are you talking so big if you don't know anymore about art than the ridiculous things you're saying here? It doesn't matter if you trace it, it still isn't going to represent the original artist's work, it's only going to resemble the art of the person doing the tracing. Again, what you are tossing off as fact is preposterous. Can just anyone who plays the cello accurately reproduce Yo-Yo Ma's extraordinary technique? Don't be stupid.

    Quicksilver January 17, 2021 3:59 am
    THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! It incites content that explicitly shows pornographic material between a child and a (virtual) adult. The fandom has it twisted with the slash between them. It shouldn't be that way... iamaFUJOSHI

    You need to read the law on what is and isn't child pornography. Art is not child pornography. You and your big mouth are slandering the very artist's whose work you admire. Whatever the artist chooses to express with their art is up to that individual artist, not you. Don't trash any more artists with your ugly garbage. Stop calling art pornography, you pig

    Quicksilver January 17, 2021 4:06 am
    This discussion is hilarious- listen to yourself. I'm not squashing your freedom of speech or whatever, I'm simply correcting your speech because the content we're talking about is illegal. What "right" will ap... iamaFUJOSHI

    I'm not the one who has a misunderstanding of the dividing line between the rights of one person, and when and how their rights end when they encroach upon the rights of another. You're treading all over someone else's rights, and you really do need to stop. This line of thinking will only ever cause you frustration because you can't take away the constitutional right to freedom of expression, no matter how hard you try.