She doesn't want to abandon her child like she was as a children. I think it doesn't even enter her mind.
I'm half asleep and very delirious right now so I might later look at this and wonder what the hell I was thinking, but let me get this straight:
You think abortion is a crime, nd when someone tried to defend why it wasn't, you're saying that they're insecure for defending their opinion?
Because you aRe shaming them- you're saying it should only be used in extreme situations. What are those- life or death shituations where getting rid of it would be the options to save her? If so, then you ARE shaming people who abort for reasons you for seem "worthy", like not being able to provide for a child and knlwing that if you ad it, they'd live a difficult life(not to mention they could potentially ruin theirs but you seem more interested in the babe than the mother at this point)
Look I don’t want to make this into a big thing, but you are misunderstanding and strawmaning the anti-abortion argument. It’s not a question of worthy or shaming. The position is human life has inherent value from the moment of conception (I understand you don’t agree). So the view is more like normally you don’t just kill a child because it’s crying all the time and effecting you life and health. The situation where it is a choice between the mother and child is looked at like the two are trapped in a burning building and you only have time to save one. It is an impossible choice and while the child has value we also recognize the value of the mother so we understand it is an unavoidable binary choice and that there is a wrong choice, but a tragedy of having to save one over the other. So there is a large difference between someone will be very inconvenienced and someone will die.
If I was to straw man the abortion argument I would say at 9 months and crowning a second from taking its first breath and perfectly viable with full ability to feel pain there was nothing wrong will killing and cutting it up just like stomping on a cockroach. Which by the way is legal in many places and happens in the us 100s of times a year. If your position is that is the same as someone 1 month pregnant and it’s all the same (and this isn’t a straw man) I would challenge you to watch a video of a 9 month abortion as the slice apart and pull out. Baby limbs.
Also, the general widespread stance is not to shame anyone who has had an abortion. The common view is they are victims too as they are often mislead and misinformed about many things and their options and abortion clinics and doctors who should know better are the real criminals who mislead, withhold and misinform about many things,
My ultimate point being it is a complex issue and I don’t think either side is inherently evil or anyone anti abortion is trying to shame anyone other than the clinics and doctors
That 's exactly what I was trying to say
It's a pity that you assume every person that don't root for abortion is shaming woman who choose to abort. It's really not the case. I will never ever shame someone who abort and I don't even think a woman aborting is a bad person. But I think it's a bad choice. It's not the same thing. Not everything is black and white in the world. If saying it's a bad choice is, to you, shaming someone, then I can't do anything for you anymore.
Omg I said I wouldn't respond because you wouldn't listen anyways but this is getting out of hand you guys are something else first of all chill out second stop getting butthurt over someone having a different opinion from yours and third like I said stop imposing your morals on other people. not once have I said that your opinion was wrong but here you are over and over dismissing our opinion by trying to guilt trip us with stupid video trust me I know how fetus grows inside a mother's womb and saying that we don't value a human life because the option we would have chosen was an abortion and it's a bad decision because the situation wasn't "life threatening" enough for you, the reason why you shame people is because you think that abortion is wrong and its killing an innocent life you value the unborn fetuses life so much but fail to understand what the mother wants by saying they are misinformed and that's not what they truly wanted.
This is a comment section and you can comment whatever you want BUT you went too far and missed the whole point of this discussion which I will remind was what we would have done in her place so we weren't criticizing her choice but what we thought would have been better if we were her and you guys taking this discussion to this direction and criticizing what some of us would do is already a prove that you dint respect our choice. you must understand that you have no say in this matter and your opinion will not be taken or appreciated that are about abortion it doesn't matter what you think because it's not your god damn business what other woman choses to do with their bodies it is their decision if they want to go through with pregnancy every reason for an abortion is valid as long as it's a mother's decision and there is no room for outsiders opinion. There's nothing else to discuss because like you said this is not a place for such a topic to be discussed so stop commenting.(⌒▽⌒)
Do You guys think that every prochoicer is running around trying to persuade every pregnant woman they come across in to getting an abortion or something?
Why are you always getting so defensive as soon as someone mentions an abortion like chill it's not your damn business and like I said your opinion doesn't matter on this topic so save your breath and dont comment ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Hi, you are completely straw maning what was said and putting words in our mouths that were never uttered. Not once in this thread has anyone anti abortion said if you’ve had an abortion you should be shamed. The entire point of our argument is we are not shaming the women who abort so please stop the straw maning. We have a difference of opinion which is okay please don’t slander us as we are not slandering you. You saying that any reason for an abortion is just as legitimate as another is simply your opinion not a fact like you are stating it. As it is just an opinion we are allowed to disagree and have a different one without being accused of shaming or hating someone. As I explained previously if you believe life starts at conception then abortion is ending a human life. As such it would be similar, though not exactly the same, as ending the life of a 3 year old. In which case not all reasons for doing so are equal. Which is our opinion. I would say you who attack us personally instead of arguing the point or explaining your position with each post would be the defensive one. It, once again that is just my opinion
I still stand on my opinion that you have no right to have opinion on someone else's body and if you think that this is slandering you than so be it.
This is getting tiring me expressing my opinion is I guess offending you? I dont have any desire left to continue this conversation BUT I will leave you a link where they will explain things better than I ever will so if you choose you to read it it will be more beneficial to you and if you choose not to that it will speak on your Ignorance and unwillingness of listening to other people's opinions bye (●'◡'●)ﾉ
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a19748134/what-is-abortion/
Cant she just get rid of the baby?