What is up with the translator saying they committed a sin..... Why put that here...
being honest .. just to clarify that the actual translation so didn't like it and replaced it with "did they do something wrong?" i don't know why you are annoyed (￣∇￣")
Yeah, stating "Study the Bible like a good Christian. No gays allowed" is ignorant and/or homophobic, even as a joke. While the Christian church has a long cultural history of homophobia, there's no reason that modern progressive Christians are required to interpret the Bible by that homophobic standard. All versions of the Bible are translations, unless you're reading it in the original Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic. And on a scanlation site, we all know that translations/interpretations of a text can vary a LOT.
https://clgs.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Neither-Judgment-Nor-Condemnation-English-April-2012-FINAL-VERSION_1.pdf
https://assets2.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/The_Bible_and_Homosexuality.pdf
''They technically did. oopsies someone needs to study the bible like a good christian child'' this is what the translator note said.
When one asks ''Did they commit a sin?'' it is meant as a clear rejection of a persons homophobic coded behavior. Putting the sentence I directly quoted in relation to this question, is so far past hurtful it's not even funny.
To overlook the actual truth of homophobia having no place in the original Bible which, if you are interested in you can look up yourself. This is parroting of selective obedience to a famously corrupt organised religion. And to find this in a feel good BL made with the purpose of lightening up someone's day is like dumping boiling water on a person enjoying the shade.
Not to mention the fact Christianity isn't even the majority religion in the author's country of origin tho the west did succeed in importing homophobia in most of the world but that is a whole other can of worms.
Rather than annoyed, I am frankly shocked I would find something this thoughtlessly cruel while reading a work that usually brightens my day.
While it was probably, as many many such things are, unintentional it doesn't change the kind of feelings it gives a person.
I didn't see your reply cause I was typing out my own. Ahh, you said it so wasn't I wasting my time ahhh should've seen it sooner so I would only need to applaud and add the not everyone is Christian bit and wouldn't need to type.
um yeah it was obviously a joke that christianity is homophobic calm down. it’s was to clarify the original translation and how it seemed iffy because “did they commit a sin” sounds weird in the context of homophobia in religion.
Imagine not understanding satire. Do you seriously think I’m homophobic or even Christian? It was meant as a joke about religion/explaining why the original Korean sentence doesn’t make sense. Don’t take shit on a yaoi manga too seriously, bro. And I don’t care if you think I’m actually trying to promote homophobia or encourage people to read the Bible, get help.
EYE, THE FACT THAT YOU THINK WE'RE HOMOPHOBIC WHEN WE'RE LITERALLY SCANLATING YAOI AND BL MANHWAS IS BEYOND ME. please go to the store and purchase some humor that'd be great thanks beebs.
whats sad is that you're reading a boys love manhwa, but think the scanlators of it are homophobic. girl i-
I think you're feeling somehow attacked. I did say I think this came from a place of thoughtlessness which is why I tried to explain why it's wrong to say it rather than start cursing at you. There is homophobic gay people, so having a homophobic BL translator isn't outside of the realm of possibility. No matter who a person is, they are all capable of homophobic behavior. The thing to do in this case is ask yourself why those words cause hurt. You did straight up say they were committing a sin. It's not really something to joke about when many many people will read it, and of those many, there will be a plenty who will internalize it and plenty who will be reminded of the actual thoughts of people who surround them. All while they're reading a feel good story meant to fill their hearts.
if you get offended over something that says 'dont be gay and read the bible like a good christian child', then youre just really soft. i can name 10 bl manhwas off the top of my head that deal with homophobia. you really shouldn't be around yaoi if you get sensitive over an anti gay joke. and no, i'm not feeling attacked. i just find it funny how yall are sobbing and crying over a joke me and the translator made. i'm bisexual, the translator is bisexual. we can make those jokes?? if you're offended with our jokes, then simply stop reading our scanlation and wait for the official eng version.
Yeah, plenty of stories deal with homophobia, plenty are focused on it. A translator's note is not a part of a story. And this comment in particular, had 0 place in the story, because it destroyed all fluffy carefreeness the story was meant for.
'We are xyz so we can't be a'' and ''learn to take a joke'' are laughable statements and I do hope you understand their use usually means the person who spoke them is in the wrong but still somehow trying to excuse themselves.
What I want to ask is, do you genuinely stand behind your words and feel nothing is wrong with them?
Do you think saying the phrase ''gay is sin study the bible'' on a fluffy love story between 2 boys is a matter to be ignored, overlooked and not mentioned?
I do not consider my comment in any way controversial and I didn't say I'll be dropping the manhwa or start ignoring releases by your group and I didn't make it as a part of cancel culture so I don't know why you're all of a sudden 'advising' me to stop reading and mentioning other plot lines and genres which include things that are much worse than the reason this whole convo started.
I read notes because they're little thoughts from people who made an effort and worked on a story as a basic courtesy. And because they were included in the posted work they can be mentioned and talked about in the comment section.
Telling me to just stop reading an entire genre because you disliked my opinion of a public 'joke' that has a lot of homophobic undertones, then should I tell you to stop reading comments if you dislike seeing people's reactions to it? If you use 'triggered' like it's a dirty word that describes my thoughts about your statement as an unreasonable overreaction what do I use for you?
Take your mind off this whole thing, then try reading that statement on it's own, and divorce it from yourself as the one who said it, do you actually truly feel it's in no way offensive and capable of hurting a person who reads it?
if you can take a joke, then no, you shouldn't be offended. obviously, theres alot wrong with saying it like you mean it. but calling us homophobic for cracking a 'gay bad its a sin' joke as a t/n is ridiculous. me and tr are going to keep making those jokes because it's our humor. like i said, if youre going to piss your pants and whine about it, then just? go? im not forcing you. and girl dont act so dramatic. it did not shatter the entire story into pieces, and make it seem all depressing. youre acting like the second we made the joke, you tore down your entire fucking room and sobbed your eyes out for hours. i only see 2 people in this entire comment section complaining. me and bunnysunbae would not put in days of effort into scanlating a chapter if we were homophobic. and, again, if you felt offended and hurt by the joke, AGAIN youre soft.
"It is impossible for me to be homophobic because I translate fluffy gay romance, therefore any gay jokes I make are by definition not homophobic. Q.E.D."
Uh yeah. In fact, guess what??? We weren’t making jokes about gay people....we were making jokes about homophobia in religion!!!! WHAT A CONCEPT. Go back and read the actual joke because y’all critical thinking skills are lacking.
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It’s like you saw “Gay” and “Sin” in the same sentence and went ballistic. It did have a place on the story, it was literally explaining why I changed the original sentence. Because it seemed iffy to put it “Did they commit a sin?” Knowing the context of homophobia in religion.
Honestly, I don’t have to explain myself to you, and it’s baffling that you can’t understand that making fun of religion and homophobia is not the same as making fun of gayness. I made NO comments about homosexuality being wrong. I DID make a comment about a common interpretation of the bible. Get a life. Do you honestly think people reading gay manhwa will suddenly feel influenced to hate gay people thanks to a funny little translator’s note at the bottom of a GAY manhwa and saying “Study the Bible gays not allowed bark bark” Seriously?
You don’t know anything about me, and you look at ONE joke and make all these assumptions. I didn’t your day. You ruined it all by yourself. You ruined MY day because I have to listen to people on the internet talk about a dumbass joke about homophobia like it’s some kind of devastating actrocity or war crime I commited. Shut the fuck up, and shut the fuck up with “Oooh you can be homophobic if you’re bi and read BL manhwa” Bullshit. You know full well we’re not homophobic, fuckwad.
I think it’s amazing you get to sit behind your computer and preach about homophobia, and claim that I’m painting some kind of picture about modern Christianity being homophobic, which is apparently untrue. If you’d really like to know, Christianity ruined my life, and I will neber be coming out! It’s not a caricature of faith, it’s reality. It’s really easy for you to say Christianity isn’t homophobic until you’re taught to hate your identity by the same ideas you’re sucking the dick of. I’m fucking allowed to make jokes about “Gays not allowed in Christianity” because you know what? It’s fucking true. It was fucking true for me and it’s fucking true for millions of LGBT youth. Get off your high horse. I honestly can’t believe you’re trying to tell me my comment “They technically commited a sin, she should read the Bible, no gays allowed!!” is joking about anything but the Church. GET OVER IT. This isn’t homophobia disguised as a joke, it’s a joke ABOUT homophobia. Guess what, joking about serious topics is funny. It was fucking funny, and I’m not sorry.
GOD DAMN PREACH GIRL WTF LOVE THAT FOR YOU
chill out .. nothing deserve your annoyance .. some people just need to get a life "like actual life"
What is up with the ex? So you annulled the engagement because why? Let's say he's into that chick, why the fuck would he pay ppl to attack MC? To stock up on rotten points? What does 'I had no choice mean'? What did u have no choice about? I hope he gets killed off legit useless.
didnt he say she was defiled or something so maybe someone lied to him saying she slept with someone
It’s because he payed those bad guys to defile her so that’s why he is saying that and he also fell for the heroine so he doesn’t want to be with her and is using an excuse to annul the engagement
that makes more sense! thank you <3
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Even tho I like the plot....
I think it was the fact that she tightened too much, over worked, and was having menstrual pain all at once. Hopefully they weren't trying to say corsets are deadly and it just came off that way, because she did say there are people who can't wear them which is true people with super bad mens cramps or horrible lung issues are supposed to stay away from corsets to an extent and wear them a specific amount of time rather than all day.
If you spend 1 night with one woman, that's how long it'll take to be with them all.
he probably has a high libido.......so maybe like 3 women each night?? omg imagine the amount of kids he will have ew
There's nothing more disgusting than genocidal maniacs whose trigger is their take on 'impurity'
The only thing that's an asshole move is him not coming clean even tho he demanded she share all her secrets. He's also entitled but it's more or less how it goes for a prince raised in a patriarchy. This is primarily a comedy and not meant to be serious so you should just read it with a light heart and floaty mindset.
The rsn to make the bastard one half of an incest couple, is so we'd casually overlook the pedo situation of the main couple.
lol
but then again, back in the history it was normal to see large age gaps
Ok yeah but its literally a magic world we can avoid certain historical aspects like we dont gotta normalize pedophilia
That argument doesn't really hold water. No matter which country you want to focus on, pedophilia was always largely regarded as disgusting. While some places practiced child marriages, both ppl in that marriage where kids. Others did early engagements, but mostly kept small age gaps with large age gaps being very rare and looked at sideways. Not to mention being mostly noble exclusive and looked down upon by the general populace. While there were places where nobility normalized same sex pedophilia in men, there were places where that too was looked at as horror. Like, when using that argument I'd like it if a person focused on a particular area, so I could talk about it more specifically.
Tbh I wish the main lead with a little closer in physical age with her and then we could get a time skip. Like if you could see my face when his face was shown. Anyway imma give it 3 more chapter but if I’m getting romance scenes between some little girl and a grown main I’ll be dropping this.
Fr I almost died due to lack of oxygen caused by excessive laughter.