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pleaaaase do not start this up again y’all

you're obviously new here, welcome!

this manga is being read by rape fantasy loving readers like us and for every chapter update there's always one of you new guys who come here baffled why no one is offended.... HAHAHAHA!

if you feel disturbed by the rape in this manga, you are more than welcome to ask why or drop this one. If you also want better perspective, just scroll the comment section and you'll see... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

There has been A LOT of discussions about rape earlier on, we all just kinda got used to it lmao

I do think it's good that you mentioned this but honest you could have done it in a better way. Like if you started a discussion about consent or something?

Why did you even comment this? You're obviously not here to get people talking. Did you come here after reading some other manga where people were complaining about rape? Did you feel salty because no one here is complaining?

Most people on here are into this. There are people complaining, you just need to scroll down. We are like 20 chapters in so by now most of the people who didn't like the story have probably decided to ignore it.

While this story involves rape it is so obvious that this story is going into the direction of them falling in love. I can already see it in the rapist/seme based on the little things, though he doesn't realise it. And for some reason the yaoi community has a unspoken rule of "will there be love at the end? Well then rape is ok." I'm not saying that I agree with the rule because I don't but this is fiction and I wanna see what will happen so I'm just gonna keep reading.

Ahhh not everyone is “raoe fantasy loving readers” tho:(( I’m just reading to see what happens to our lil boi(if he escapes or dies- I don’t think they’re gonna have a happy ending lol)

I like to keep my comment simple and to the point. I've read many yaoi and josei mangas and if they see rape the comment section will be flooded with people bitching about rape/consent stuff. So i just dont understand why in this particular manhwa people just okay with it? Hmmmm

It's simple and short so I will give you that but it's not straight to the point.

I think that I already answered your question in paragraph 3 of my initial reply to you. I hope you don't mind me asking but why did you comment that? Was it just out of interest because you really want to know or was it more of a passive question? To me it looks like the latter is the case because of your tone. Why did you make a reference to a specific manga which had less complaints of rape than this one? Why did you decide to make yourself look so rude when you commented that? It does sound like an attack. If you took a nicer tone you could have gotten a really positive response and started a discussion.

To me it just sounds like this manga isn't the right fit for you. Its obvious that you don't like the story because of the rape aspect and that's understandable and we all have our own preferences but you're being rude. Though on the other hand, you did ask a question which is very good. I will answer it again in a different way. This manga isn't just rape. It has story, characters, historical context, some physiological aspects that people enjoy. Some people on here are into the rape aspect (e.g. me - yep am a pervert) but even then we wouldn't support this in real life so we don't need to throw our "moral and integrity away" to enjoy this as it's fiction. Some of us (once again me) are interested in what will happen to the characters. Will the painter get away or will he not? Of course for other people the rape aspect of this story is too much and that's ok, they don't have to read it or like it and as long no one is pushing the story on them, I don't see the issue. If you disagree with me then let me know and tell me why because nothing comes to mind.

Personally I would say that people aren't saying "it's rape" because it's the most obvious thing ever. People did mention it, especially at first and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. IMO it's a good thing to point out rape even if it's in fiction as it means that we are acknowledging it for what it is and yet at the same time we need to remember that none of them are real people. Stories like this show rape as rape but a lot of stories show rape as the most normal thing ever. I'm sure you seen that too since you been here for quiet sometime.

What is historical about this? History about sodomy? pfft Calm down, im just stating some facts here, i don't care if you guys are fucked up people who likes rape and abuse it is none of my concern. I just wanted to point out that this Painter of The Night has no worthy plot to make me sit, enjoy and waiting for the new chapt. It is getting boring because the next chapter will be just that ass Seunghoe raping Nakyum over and over again. That historical tag needs to be removed and u know what? killing stalking is much better ;)

Im not gonna grace this with a reply, you couldn't be ruder if you tried. No offence but this is just disappointing to read since you seemed reasonable in your last reply.

I see now that you're out of words, i will kindly face anyone who wants to argue that this manhwa is worth the hype or not :)

Oh I do agree with you that this is far (like very far) from a accurate historical representation of that culture at that said time. So I am on the "more fantasy than historical reality" train too but I don't consider them to be two separate things and believe that we can have fantasy and fiction together.

The main characters do in fact break the cultural norms a lot and just like you explained. And yes I agree that all of this would be unacceptable and wouldn't actually happen but this is fiction and not meant as an accurate depictions.

I did not study the culture and setting of this story so my understanding of it is limited. I am more aware of medieval British culture but even then that is not my are of study either but I assume that my understanding should be enough for an online argument.

I would first like to point out that you explained your points very well and overall your argument is very good but there are a few things i would like to point out that may help explain some aspects of the story"

-"Seungho has effectively detained a painter, and rapes him every night in full view of other yangban men, and the serving staff." ->So far there have been like 2/3 rape scenes with the two of them and it was done in private. Only one person was aware of it (the servant) so it was not done publicly. I may be wrong but i reread this recently. If I'm wrong please let me know which chapter and page I should check. The servants are aware of it but the action hasn't happened in front of them (chp 32 pg 3) and consider it to be "disgusting" thus showing that their LORDS behaviour is not approved off which is what we would expect to happen in that historical setting. They only obey/work for him out of fear (chapter 30, beginning)

-We can also take a look at the piece of trash the painter is head over heels for. He certainly doesn't approve and is only looking to gain power - I just wanted to say that he is a dick.

-Check ch 27, pg 9 and you will find out that the entire family and almost all of the servants have left which can explain most things you asked in the second paragraph. His whole family and all the servants left - but why? It's not like his father is there to control him. In terms of their power dynamics, it is shown that the teacher/ piece of trash/ whatever he is called is in there to gain more power/status but nothing implies the same about the men he fucks with. If I'm wrong then let me know but I don't think it was implied.

Oh love, I just won't put the effort in when I know that someone is to arrogant to listen. It has 9.5 stars for a reason ;)

ignore the downvotes i agree with u tbh. this had so much potential in the beginning. we dont need 3-5 smut chapters. 2 is enough and it should be spaced out imo. the relationship is rushed for sure. unfortunately like most yaoi.. the idea is there but it doesnt get delivered. the author's art is amazing tho and i really appreciate the people uploading this.

I have to agree but I think some people are assuming this storys suppose to be some kind of gem bc of how beautiful the artstyle is but thats obviously not the case. I feel like its really rare to find a BL author who can provide amazing artwork while simultaneously demonstrating a beautiful and creative story. Really really rare. Most lezhin works are pretty much the same tropes reused anyway so we shouldnt place our expectations too high lmfao

Don't ignore the downvotes. You deserve them. Hope I won't see you here again. (⌒▽⌒)

period

yall are so musty LMAO

can someone have their opinion ????? god forbid someone disagree with the story's route and hope for the story to improve

dang, i don't know why this made me chuckle.

Sometimes its not about the story but the art. And uniqueness. This is by far the most beautifully drawn colored manga out there. The effort is all over the place. The detail facial expression is there and the story was original.

This comment took me the fuck out! Hahahahaha!

HIATUS for 2 weeks though. You people should kuku kill me.

Ignore this kind of unwanted opinion, OP! This is a free forum, so why can't they voice what they want when you can? Especially since lzh doesn't have comment section for readers to give feedback...
And i agree with everything the OP said, but I do admit the art of this is very good, since ancient setting is harder to depict than modern ones.,.so that is one plus value, but it stops there...
Unfortunately, most of lzh newcoming comics nowadays are all like this not just for yaoi but for F/M smut as well, know why? Cuz it's easier to score money, attract subcriptions and readers with smut-focus ones...the plot doesn't need to be developed much...Getting writer's block? Simple, just give smut chapters for 3 chapters in a row... and for characters, they just throw the most cliche ones, dominating jerk semes and helpless ukes who will eventually fall in love for their rapists.. no need to develop much for that either cuz the focus are on the sex scenes, the kinkier the better...and if the sell was good, the story will drag on...we can see these troupes are everywhere in smut webtoons yet just see how high these smut webtoons dominating top ranks ...cuz ppl just simply will nvr get bored with porn...The same reason porn industry are very rich and highly sought everywhere.
The shounen ai webtoons are much better options if u're looking for decent plot and great arts as well...
I only keep lzh app now for the sake of those chapters in my library I used to buy regularly years ago that didn't end up with me stop reading midway like I always do now cuz the story gets worse I cannot take it anymore and wasted my coins lol..namely dark heaven, KM, starry sky, hush, etc. they are all either finished or move out of there lol...the good old ones

Na I think this is the tip of the ice berg. Can you not feel the ground shake? Something big is about to happen. Especially since her just lit that letter on fire

He*

Now UNLESS you havent read the raws

this whole thread goes to show how people don't respect the opinions of others smh, "You deserve them".

Have you see Heaven's official blessings? That brush strokes and color gradations are one of a kind too, vibrants but still have those dark and mysterious background...everyone is so pretty and the details of their faces make them look vividly alive..i highly recommend that one for those looking for great art

Everyone has the right to share and have an opinion, but i don't understand when you say this story is just about smut now while complaining also that the sex scene are too rushed...(??).
So you do you hate the smut or do you not hate it? Because your words are contradicting.

About the story, I think we will see some development here though we must be patient about this manhwa; manhwas/uas can be quite long and compared to others that reached one hundred ++ like chapters, this one's still pretty short.
If we considerer the story in its globality, the events can happened, be summed up, in two weeks at most between the first time Seungho and Nak had sex (drunk NK), and now. So yeah, we can lose track about the purpose of the story or the actions of the characters, but if we reread it in one go, it's still makes sense.
The chapters are quite short and I think author-nim is doing their best (they're humanst too...). The chapters were mostly focused on the interactions between SH and NK since the drunk night they had, but now we get to see Jiwhore again and surely a new protagonist... Patience :)

LMao i don't care about the down votes, im just gonna pour all my criticism in the comment section ;)

Him not sleeping and burning that letter and his lover crying showed real development to me. Particularly the burned letter

Yes I agree to that. Usually SH looks so stoic like he doesn't care about what's going on much, or he can flip humor to 180° and hurt someone like he doesn't care about the consequences, but I think he knows that this is not the way he should behave around Nak. He cares for the first time about what may think someone else than his very person. The fact that Nak seems so be so scared of him must affect him.
About the Letterman, although he burnt it, this one must works him enough for SH to write back...

Criticisms are ok, but arguments are better ;)

Damn auto-corrector

Also, I do see where you are coming from :). I just can feel the ground quake..I feel like we are about to dive into his broken, fallen family..I also feel like that dude (cant remember his name...starts with a j lol) is about to rain havoc lol.i also think the servant raised him. Also, I think soon we will also dive into nakyums family, (the author said he had a good upbringing)

Yeah, I can sense some major changes coming as well. The relationship between SH and NK seems to find some rest for the moment, so I think Author-Nim will show other characters or make them intervene. The lover you speak about is Jihwa, brown hair guy, I call him Jiwhore and the sexfriend of the Lord. Yeah, he's crying his eyes out now and seems really inoffensive, but if ever he discovered the relationship of the master and servant, he can be go crazy totally.
I don't know if the servant Kim has raised or contributed to raise SH, and if ever he did there are infortunately not signs of this. SH should show more respect to the old man if he effectively raised the Lord, but SH just treats him like any servant aside the fact that Kim is his private servant.

People HATE it when I compare this to bj alex

It's sass of the rare kind.

Reason to stop reading Painter of the night :

1. rape
2. Seonghoe has no remorse
3. Nakyum is precious but dumb
4. 0 character development, so just enjoy the "smut"
5. Getting boring as you can't see where the plot is going, messed up

why are you guys booing op? they're right.

Killing Stalking is a legend and pioneer to go beyond the usual yaoi cliche in almost every aspect of the story. Even till the end it is debatable whether sangwoo ever like bum or if he even liked men, as he always saw his mother in him and used him to get over his complicated guilt.
But KS was much more a thriller, mystery, crime theme from the start. Less focus on smut or romance aspect... it's different with this one which goes more to the usual rapey yaoi from the beginning. So eventho it'd be good to welcome another legend where the main characters didn't end up together or have predictable ending, it'd probably never go that way. They will just need to make more and more things to turn Seungho to be a less evil man, give him excuses of sad past so that we will give him simpathy and start blessing him with the uke lol

33 chapters are not short, and how are u going to forgive seunghoe after he beat the shit and raped the fuck out of Nakyum ?

We're at chap37 and things have changed since then.
I'm not here to forgive or not forgive, but to read a BL that sure contains rape, but it isn't only about rape. If I don't like what I'm reading then I just drop, and you should do the same.
I seriously don't know why you're still here to read something you have nothing good to say about.

Calm down, im just stating the facts about this manhwa

IKR

Cumming: *skmsksownnskwksn*

Squirting: *

Bruh mangago deleted the squirting text bc I used a special font... (the font was Numera Bold Italic)

U both morons aren't helpful.

Check it out here
https://japanese-fetish-femdom.com/how_to_squirt.php

We were just joking. No need to insult us.

LMAO i see now

thanks for the link