I remember reading this like a month or two ago and paused at chapter 24 because I was kind of tired of the abuse and I was like let me put it on a short break. Actually finishing after picking it back up two days ago, this has me so fulfilled. This is defiantly a 10/10 manga. The plot, the complex, just everything about this manga was so well written, and the art is beautiful. Also with the rapist getting locked up that made me smile so hard, I’ve not seen one manga where the uke gets justice, so I’m happy. Hyesung getting his justice, and his happiness was well deserved after everything he’d had gone through. Seung-chan is literally the greatest person you’d wish for as a partner, and his personality is everything you’d want. He treats Hyesung so gently... besides when they’re in bed. Seung-chan and Hyesung are both so beautiful. They both deserve so much happiness and deserve to grow together. Best manwha I’ve read in a while.
Σ(っ°Д °;)っ I meant to like but I think I accidentally disliked bc of my chubby fingers! Sorry about that!
It’s okay ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
I’m glad he was able to see his brother still takes care of the dog but I wasn’t expecting THAT. My poor baby. ╥﹏╥
Bro that’s just straight up rape .. it’s already the first chapter and boom, rape. Dropping ...
Little puppy is a scaredy cat, whatever it's your life.
Dude what are you even saying. I’m just pointing it out how does that make someone scared
It’s actually pretty good.. and the teacher was awake and pretended to be drunk.
But ya I hate when they use rape in the story as a way to progress the relationship.
I’m pretty late but yeah I agree people need to stop romanticizing rape it’s getting old has disturbing.
Right!! They shouldn’t progress in their relationship because of rape. If someone raped me I wouldn’t be trying to mend our relationship, or even getting into one with them.
Exaclty. The only logical excuse for someone to be with their rapist is if they had Stockholm syndrome, but no normal person would let someone who SA them into their lives.
I read a manga I forgot the name bc I didn’t save it, but the uke raped the seme (they were in an all boys school) -because the uke looks like a girl and has sex with everyone.
The uke and his fuck buddies got mad at the seme for getting upset and leaving bc they fricken raped him!!! Like what.
The seme and the uke got together and the uke had some sob story... but he raped him! And they got together!
Like what- butch no matter how pretty someone is, if they rape me that’s it.
Pls and the fact some people try excusing rape with their backstories... “he was neglected as a child”. There is never an excuse.. and then I never get why people the to use the excuse “it’s just fiction”. I never understood that argument. Just because something is fictional doesn’t make it right? Some people were literally sexualizing minors and got angry when people called them out.. atp I don’t know what to think anymore of the community.
Ugh, I agree. Just because it’s “fictional” isn’t an excuse. It’s fiction, using real life scenarios trusting them into romance.
No matter if it’s fiction or not, if it uses sensitive subjects like rape or should be handled tastefully. It’s a very real problem.. if people just make the characters fall in love after being rapped it sets up the wrong mindset to people and thinking rape can be justified.
Idk why people can’t grasp that...
Making* not trusting ahah
“if people just make the characters fall in love after being rapped it sets up the wrong mindset to people and thinking rape can be justified.”
I would like to add on a lot of people here are minors so they probably will get hella influenced hence why a lot of them LOVE justifying it. Everytime they do they sound so young. People try is hard defending this shit.
Ignore my spelling errors, AHAHHA. I should check my spelling.
But yes! You can always tell their age, or at least mental age. People defend the really anything, incest, shotacon, rape, murder, kidnapping, etc. With the argument that it’s “fiction”.
Like please, either stop reading 18+ stories because your a minor, or educate yourself and never speak on the subjects ever again.
Thank you. I myself as a minor also don’t read much smut, like I might read smut sometimes I don’t too much have a problem with it, but o try to keep away from rape or when people sexualize minors etc. As a minor it’s smart to in the least be safe with some of the things you do and look at.
I read 18+ as a minor as well lmao. (I’m 20 now )
It’s fine to read/watch 18+ stuff. My younger brother watches porn, my parents know about it but say it’s normal for teenage boys lmao. My problem is when minors read stories like killing stalking then start to justify a killer like Sangwoo.
Sangwoo is undoubtedly hot and his backstory is messed up, but those aren’t reasons to excuse his behaviour. Yet people still find the need to justify him and actual murderers.
Thankfully your well educated about these things. You’ll be a good adult ahahah.
Aw thank you for that last sentence that made me smile :) I also agree with what you said on Killimg Stalking. I like sangwoo’s character because of his backstory and how everything in the story plays out but people who try and justify the actual are just nasty. Yoo bum was not in love with Seungho he had Stockholm syndrome. A lot of people don’t seem to understand the fact that rape doesn’t equal romance. I heard something about the author being uncomfortable with people calling it Yaoi when it’s not meant to be Yaoi, the author theirselves said it wasn’t Yaoi. It is actually psychological horror, because Yaoi is technically romance. A lot of people were getting angry over that so I wouldn’t even be surprised if the author of killing stalking didn’t like the community because of the way the treat the story. Most of them fetish the relationship and sexualize rape in a bad way when that’s not what the story is about. What people need to do, especially the writers of BL, I feel as though they should start switching up all of these rape tropes because it’s not a good community at all knowing that almost the whole community is filled with minors. People need to allow change and stop getting so angry over getting called out for it.
Exactly!!! The rape trope shouldn’t be a thing, it’s disgusting. If rape is used in the story for the characters trauma or something, that’s different and handled well, can be quite moving.
And yes people call anything now with two men in a relationship yaoi. Yaoi seems to have different meaning to people, but from what I know it’s mainly to describe a BL that heavily focuses on sex. KS isn’t a romance, I guess you could refer to the characters as mlm (male love male) but yaoi and BL is widely incorrect.
I could really go on and on about KS I’ve reread it tons of times. Thankfully like I said, you actually have comprehension skills unlike most of those people.
As a whole, the BL fandom is kinda 50/50. One side are just people looking to enjoy the mangas/etc while the other is looking to fetishize. The people who fetishize and justify the rape tropes are the worst, sigh*.
I agree. I kind of get pissed at the Sasuke x Naruto ship because people only ship them cause of one childish kiss they had. To me they’re like brothers and if you’re gonna ship someone at least look at the way they act with each other, they don’t have any chemistry at all, but like you said they ship anything that can be BL which is true.
I agree with the fetishizing too, and I hate how this fandom as a whole is not getting called out for it. Like literally one half of the fandom only reads the shit because it’s two men having sex. That literally can be compared to how some straight men HATE lgbtq but they LOVE lesbians becuase it’s just two women which they are attracted to. That’s the same exact concept just flipped around.
That’s why I don’t look at BL on tiktok or Instagram I only look at GL because with GL, the things I’m on I mostly see women in the fandom and it’s not as toxic.
What I also hate are comments when they come onto a GL or straight romance manga and they complain about how BL is better. Like there were comments saying things like “I tried reading straight sex but it disgusts me.”, I’m tired of them leaving comments like that on GL and straight romance because it ruins it for literally everyone.
Now that it’s 2021 and the gen is changing drastically I really hope someone would call them out and let them know what they’re doing is wrong. I was literally watching someone’s drawings and they made a drawing about how men fetish lesbian relationships and I cried for a sec, that goes to show you how impacting this can be for actual gay people. People need to call them out. Shout out to the other half of the fandom though that actually reads for plot and for romance..
I’m a gay man myself, and I have no problem with people reading BL. Woman get attacked for just reading BL.. attack the people who openly fetishize not the people just reading.
What I think is funny is that it’s mostly men who are attacking these woman, but at the same time are reading GL. They don’t see the problem in fetishizing lesbian relationships.
There was one manga I forgot the name, but the mc was a waiter that turned into a girl. All the comments were like “ugh I wanna see two men fucking” “where is the yaoi”... like huh??? I understand that it had the yaoi tag but calling the sex gross bc you wanna see two men fuck is really weird.
Another one was a GL and the one girl kept having sex with men because she couldn’t accept that she was lesbian, and the comments were calling her a disgusting whore and saying that she should just hurry up and have sex with her straight friend. The girl ended up with someone other then the friend bc the friend was straight, but people were mad bc the friend has big boobs and the girl she needed up with has small boobs and a little chunky.
It’s just so messed up. Wanting to see some sex scenes are fine, but if your reading for the sole purpose to see two girls get it on, or two guys, then there’s a problem.
(Sorry for the long response pft I ranted a lot)
I totally agree. I’m only 14 and I’m lesbian and I read a little bit of everything. I got into BL when I was 13 because of YouTube’s Lenzhin ad’s. I got into GL a few months after I got into BL when a close friend on Discord introduced me to it. I’ve also read a couple of straight romances.
I’ve never really looked into the fandom until a couple months afterwards. I noticed it in the anime fandom especially with AOT how people would ship Levi and eren.
I don’t think anything is wrong with shipping random people but I hate it the most when it’s such a random ship and I hate when one of them are a MINOR. They sexualize minors so much and I’m like cmon man.. even if you’re a minor yourself it still doesn’t make it right. I feel like the only okay ships are if it’s a minor with another minor and when you don’t sexualize the two.
Like with me I play Genshin Impact and I ship Chongyun and Xingqui because I find the two so adorable but I hate when I come across explicit art.. I only like the fluffy things with the two, this is why I stay off of Twitter to prevent seeing those things because people just can’t hold back.
“They don’t see the problem in fetishizing lesbian relationships. “ You are so right, a lot of people aren’t even aware of what they do and they get SO angry and defensive when called out.
I saw on one straight manga (it was a gender bender) people were calling some people out for fetishizing BL because all of the comments were about “they should have sex while he’s in his male body straight sex is nasty”. They were just shaming straight sex and straight relationships. A lot of people who called them out got a bunch of downvotes.
There was also a manga I came across and it had rape in it and then boom, romance, so I called it out and someone had the nerve to dismiss it as rape kinks when that’s not what rape kinks are because rape kinks are like role play.
I don’t understand how people can sit up there and think things like this are okay. They sit up here and have the nerve to say it’s just fiction. Even if it’s just fiction that doesn’t take away the fact you’re fetishizing gay men, sexualizing minors etc.
I love when I do come across the good side of the fandom though because there’s absolutely nothing wrong with reading BL as a woman. It’s only wrong when you read it just for gay sex.
You are so spot on with everything you say. I wish people had all the common sense that you do.
Also yes!! I love Chongyun and Xingqui their so cute together. That’s totally a ship I can get behind, their close in game anyways. I also don’t like the explicit art of them... some try to “age them up” and draw sex between them. It’s still two children, just aged up.. sigh*
Like KS, I can go on and on about anime and the disgusting ships. I’ve watched season 1 and 2 of AOT and I still don’t get why they ship Levi and Eren?? They have no chemistry, they aren’t close, nothing. Not to mention Levi is 30 lmao. I honestly don’t have any ships in AOT except for Yamir and Historia. If people have to ship Eren in a gay ship, then ship him with Armin. At least they’re friends that get along.
And don’t get me started on MHA. The author had to come out and confirm that Deku is straight. People call deku and oaraka (idk how to spell her name) - a gross ship bc their straight. Like what??
I used to think anime fans were all disgusting because of the fandoms. Tbh I still think some are but not everyone is like that which sucks because those people bring the rest down.
Also off topic, but good for you about learning your sexuality. I didn’t accept mine until I was around 16-17. I wasn’t brave enough to come out or accept myself...so I have a lot of appreciation for you.
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I agree 100%. I only love the aging up art that a creator made where they aged up some of the Impact characters and compared them to their younger selves. Those are the only exceptions. Everything else is weird, aging them up just to sexualize them is still wrong in many ways.
This is my opinion but I don’t think it should be taken too serious because of the fact they’re of age and it’s not as if it’s a bad thing, but I would like to add on how I feel about sexualizing characters just in general and not just minors.
I don’t like it when people are so quick to jump to explicit art. Is that all they see in the characters? Now see if it’s the author theirselves that’s fine because it’s the author. I feel like we should start being more fluffy with ships if the characters you’re shipping are not meant to be involved in smutty things, just to respect the author yk.
But I do I think it’s fine to draw explicit art of characters such as one of the characters from Sadistic Beauty because of the type of manga it is. That’s just my opinion though I don’t think this needs a big change because it’s not like it’s a bad problem, but people should take this into consideration just because some authors may not be comfortable with explicit art that some fans make.
Especially when they make it clear that their characters are straight or not meant to be drawn into explicit art, they should stop because it’s pretty disrespectful. I would hate to see an OC I created being sexualized when that’s not what their character is.
Also with AOT I completely agree. My ships in AOT are Erwin x Levi, Mikasa x Eren, Ymir x Historia and that’s about it. I probably would’ve shipped Armin x Annie but I think the only reason it’s like that is because of Berthold, and I also like to think of Annie as someone who’d be single and independent.
I think some people ship Sasha with Niccolo but I’m pretty sure she’s still underage. If she was of age I would’ve shipped them but she’s still a minor I’m pretty sure because on google it says she’s 16, so I ship those two as close siblings.
“They have no chemistry, they aren’t close, nothing. Not to mention Levi is 30 lmao.” Thank you! their only relation is that Levi is his damn captain. I hate when people get angry when we bring up the ages.. like what’s so bad about it is this ship had already existed when Eren was underage... around 13-15 idk his exact age but he was around those ages. It’s pretty uncomfortable honestly.
And I really do not like the anime fandom.. it’s either you’re on the toxic side, or the side with the sexualization of minors/characters in general.. or just random shippers who get angry you don’t agree.
I usually just stay in small anime communities on discord and I look at anime edits on tiktok because those aren’t too problematic tbh. I also talk about anime with mostly my friends because they have some of the same opinions as me. The anime fandom is basically a 50/50 community tbh.
And thank you so much. :)) I actually used to think I was bisexual, when I was 12. I had a lot of female crushes and I actually kissed my old best friend and a few others chicks, though I though it was normal. I never thought anything of it actually tbh because of how young i were and uneducated about lgbtq.
I’d see things about people just hitting puberty and that it’s normal to have an attraction because of hormones. I fantasized about doing certain things with girls and got into PH.. unfortunately cause PH is so inaccurate. I actually had only one boyfriend before but never cared about him and ended the relationship fast. I thought because I dated a guy I was bisexual but that wasn’t the case.
I now have a girlfriend we’ve been dating almost a year and almost everyone in my circle accepts me so I’m so happy about that especially at a young age.
I hope you’re also accepted and happy with yourself because everyone deserves love and acceptance in theirselves and from others, especially lgbtq because of how much we’re hated on.
“I didn’t accept mine until I was around 16-17.” Seeing that because of how long it took you I really hope it wasn’t hard :(.. I have a friend atm who’s struggling with her sexuality so I know how hard it can be. I’m glad you were able to accept yourself and work anything out that was problematic during that path.
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I agree 100%. I only love the aging up art that a creator made where they aged up some of the Impact characters and compared them to their younger selves. Those are the only exceptions. Everything else is weird, aging them up just to sexualize them is still wrong in many ways.
This is my opinion but I don’t think it should be taken too serious because of the fact they’re of age and it’s not as if it’s a bad thing, but I would like to add on how I feel about sexualizing characters just in general and not just minors.
I don’t like it when people are so quick to jump to explicit art. Is that all they see in the characters? Now see if it’s the author theirselves that’s fine because it’s the author. I feel like we should start being more fluffy with ships if the characters you’re shipping are not meant to be involved in smutty things, just to respect the author yk.
But I do I think it’s fine to draw explicit art of characters such as one of the characters from Sadistic Beauty because of the type of manga it is. That’s just my opinion though I don’t think this needs a big change because it’s not like it’s a bad problem, but people should take this into consideration just because some authors may not be comfortable with explicit art that some fans make.
Especially when they make it clear that their characters are straight or not meant to be drawn into explicit art, they should stop because it’s pretty disrespectful. I would hate to see an OC I created being sexualized when that’s not what their character is.
Also with AOT I completely agree. My ships in AOT are Erwin x Levi, Mikasa x Eren, Ymir x Historia and that’s about it. I probably would’ve shipped Armin x Annie but I think the only reason it’s like that is because of Berthold, and I also like to think of Annie as someone who’d be single and independent.
I think some people ship Sasha with Niccolo but I’m pretty sure she’s still underage. If she was of age I would’ve shipped them but she’s still a minor I’m pretty sure because on google it says she’s 16, so I ship those two as close siblings.
“They have no chemistry, they aren’t close, nothing. Not to mention Levi is 30 lmao.” Thank you! their only relation is that Levi is his damn captain. I hate when people get angry when we bring up the ages.. like what’s so bad about it is this ship had already existed when Eren was underage... around 13-15 idk his exact age but he was around those ages. It’s pretty uncomfortable honestly.
And I really do not like the anime fandom.. it’s either you’re on the toxic side, or the side with the sexualization of minors/characters in general.. or just random shippers who get angry you don’t agree.
I usually just stay in small anime communities on discord and I look at anime edits on tiktok because those aren’t too problematic tbh. I also talk about anime with mostly my friends because they have some of the same opinions as me. The anime fandom is basically a 50/50 community tbh.
And thank you so much. :)) I actually used to think I was bisexual, when I was 12. I had a lot of female crushes and I actually kissed my old best friend and a few others chicks, though I though it was normal. I never thought anything of it actually tbh because of how young i were and uneducated about lgbtq.
I’d see things about people just hitting puberty and that it’s normal to have an attraction because of hormones. I fantasized about doing certain things with girls and got into PH.. unfortunately cause PH is so inaccurate. I actually had only one boyfriend before but never cared about him and ended the relationship fast. I thought because I dated a guy I was bisexual but that wasn’t the case.
I now have a girlfriend we’ve been dating almost a year and almost everyone in my circle accepts me so I’m so happy about that especially at a young age.
I hope you’re also accepted and happy with yourself because everyone deserves love and acceptance in theirselves and from others, especially lgbtq because of how much we’re hated on.
“I didn’t accept mine until I was around 16-17.” Seeing that because of how long it took you I really hope it wasn’t hard :(.. I have a friend atm who’s struggling with her sexuality so I know how hard it can be. I’m glad you were able to accept yourself and work anything out that was problematic during that path.
Aw for some reason my response isn’t posting
Yo the story was good stop complaining about smut. Read it for the characters not the sex.
well there was that deal they made "if i get more than 80 on exams we have sex" type of thing, so it was kinda unsatisfying that that was sorta just blipped over... other than that youre right haha
Mm I see what you mean a lot of people tend to read just for sex the story was really good though. I hope they acknowledge that.
Every chapter pracitcally mentions their “deal” about sleeping together so it’s not too much to ask tbh
Just really seemed the type to have it, people are just surprised especially when they made it a plot point as well
I needed this on Christmas. Merry Christmas everyone. ╥﹏╥
After coming back to this manga after a while I’m kinda glad for this manga cause after reading so many mangas where relationships always work smoothly it made me forget relationships like this actually exist for a split second. This really made me face the cold reality. I’m also glad they were able to work it out but that was completely fucked up. I don’t understand how you can have someone open their whole heart to you after being hurt before and you turn around and pull something like that. That’s fucked up man. If I can get a few punches in I’d be satisfied. I hope he learned from his mistakes and he needs to do much better and treasure him because the uke did not deserve that nor does he deserve any more wrong doings in the future.
Damn bro I was crying reminiscing over the sad mangas/manhwa’s I’ve read and I came to read the recent chapters just to cry even harder because it wasn’t funny it was just more wholesome and made me feel more sad for some weird reason.
I have never seen multiple comments at once on a manga have like.. 60-70 likes damn.