i really like the side couple but i can understand why people cant appreciate them. we have the main couple in crisis so we want to see about them but i dont know i kinda like the fact that its in the middle of all the bad stuff around the main couple, its like a break and i think its great to see somthing refreashing and breezy like them! i dont know if that makes sense or if im the only one to think that ahah
I 100 % agree. I love the side couple, they're a nice break from all the drama surrounding the main couple.
when the seme said « are liking someone and wanting to sleep with them two separate things? » i was like damn right it’s differant because as an asexual i put a big separation like for me you can have big feeling like love for someone and don’t feel the need or the desire to sleep with them. i know that it’s not really « common » and that for a bl who as a lot of sex its a « must » but its like really frustrating in my opinion. of course i dont say that its horrible and that im really offended but i can’t help my mind to tick and be like « well you know we exist and we can have great relationship without sex »…. but of course its my opinion and its not like i hate the stories for that, in that case i would stop reading it and voilà!
i just realise from this comment that i’m asexual. i’ve had feelings for someone but i never actually feel the need to have sex with them or more like, i don’t mind not doing it. i thought i was the weird one bc i personally don’t have that sexual drive but i wouldn’t mind doing it if my partner wants it bc everyone is different in that department. but yea bc basically clears
Yes! It kinda bothers me that love and sex and so intertwined. You can love someone and not want to have sex with them. You can also not love someone and want to have sex with them.
It’s complicated.
A long time ago I read a book called Understanding Asexuality and at once point the author wrote how it was possible to fall in love with someone of the same sex and not be sexually attracted to them because even though most of the time love and sex are thought of together, it doesn’t have to be that way.
When I first read Yeon-oh’s thoughts, I was like “yes, you can like someone and not want to sleep with them.”
Unrelated, but have you read “ Is Love the Answer?”
It has an asexual main character. (Non BL).
Most people has sex as a basic need, wake up
god, what are you? an animal? it's not a basic need, you can well off survive without it.
This is triggering to read as an Ace. Don't judge everyone with your own standards. That's immature.
basic need? lolololol are you saying if there’s a natural disaster and you’ll still need sex to survive? dumb af
A disaster is a type crisis about survival, first you need to survive. But once people can walk and talk, they'll be back to sex, that's a given. Even lizards (that mostly hate sex) will mate anyway, it's just a dominant behaviour required for thriving. But since polite society became all bitchy about sex and woman virginity/purity, we started developing traumas and crisis towards a natural and healthy human connection.
Obviously some outliers won't have this need, but well, the species would simply go away. (Not thats bad, i wish humans disappeared)
What do people consider normal? What majority of the people think is considered normal and the minority are shunned as weirdos. I get that you have the 'normal' mentality. Must be convenient to have contraceptions in this world or else I wonder how many kids would be running around parent less.
Also no one became 'bitchy' about virginity or purity. It's talk like these demeaning it makes even minors aged eleven to lose their virginity so that they can brag to their peers. Kids get pregnant in middle school and gets abortions. If they were afraid to do the deed they wouldn't do such things. But glorifying sex has messed up their mentality. If there's no discipline in the world then there's no point in being human. Aren't you basically a beast relying on instincts? Humans are humans due to a reason. They need self-control afterall.
Now-a-days even discipline is considered offensive. Too bad that humans are no longer acting like one.
And it's better if the species dwindles anyway since It's overpopulated and is sucking the earth dry, one thing we agree with each other.
First, I seldom use the word "normal", since to me, whats abnormal is more like a crime or simptoms of a disease.
I do like the word "common", tho. You're not common and believe you or not, my borderline-autistic-gay-ass isn't common as well, but we're both normal.
When I say "bitchy about sex", I'm referring to that exact mentality of glorifiyng and making a big deal out of sex. Saying "I don't like sex" should be like "I don't like sushi", something about an individual that's uncommon, but normal.
The biggest issue here, is the fact that sex is profitable, men keep consuming porn regularly (thats not normal) and then act all high and mighty about women with a "big body count".
When I talk about "basic need", I'm being simply technical about biology, I'm aware that sometimes my bluntness make myself hard to read, that's my bad. While living creatures have that tendency, we humans made it WEIRD, just like patriarchy is rare as fuck in nature, we can see a pattern here. Come on, we got to 2024 8kk people in that spinning rock, animal brain (yes we're animals, and that's not a bad thing) is hardwired to reproduction, thats why orgasm exist. As sentients, we changed the game and now the line is blurred, we made sex about power, when it should be about connection. Result: a bunch of horny men and wary women, that could be enjoying their sexuality but are too afraid of rape and labels.
Second, I do agree children shouldn't be exposed to sex wtf, unfortunately, the internet fucked this part, and the sex internet provides, is disgusting and fictional.
Tldr; sex is normal, not liking is also normal, capitalism fucked peoples minds.
What are you, a plant? Oh wait, plants also have sex lmao. Just kidding mate, read my discussion above for clarification.
Well, I said "most" and you said "everyone", changing people's statements for convenient argumentation is even more immature, as I said to the other pal, read my discussion above for clarification.
Did you think the OP and other commenters before you weren't aware of what you first commented? Your input was unnecessary in the first place. So I wasn't wrong in using the term 'everyone'. This was a peaceful discussion between fellow aces before you came in tho.
But I mostly agree with your previous comment. You indeed weren't clear on what you wanted to say so glad that cleared it up.
It is indeed biology and something most people need so I get where you are coming from but I stand by the point of the other commenter where you can go without it. I'm actually an aegosexual and only books make the cut for me but I absolutely do not have any intention of actually doing it.
Well my culture plays a part and my personality more but people don't care much about breaking rules so they indulge themselves knowing it's wrong. And I can't tolerate it and I simply turn a blind eye to it except when it affects the people close to me. But the repurcurssions are bad which could have very well be prevented if those freaking horn dogs had some self control and empathy towards their own family.
Animals are indeed made to procreate. It's is a wild instinct. Humans may be animals but they are the highest form on earth with enough intelligence to know right from wrong so they should really learn some self control in this aspect. Kids learn from adults and it will be a never ending cycle. In a destructive way. In the end it all rounds up to selfishness on our part.
Well I'm selfish too since I'm arguing I'm right and you wrong when I know my argument will pass from your eyes out of your ears so you can take my point or leave it idrc. Just don't start arguments when all we wanted to do was rant to get some stuff off our chest capish? And to let you know, you weren't exactly polite when you popped in so we returned the favour.
How long have you been using the internet? This is LITERALLY a forum, I can read, I can comment, it's all up to me. You can tell me YOU THINK I'm an ass, but saying "im right u wrong yada" will make the fall much harder when your horse hit reality.
I've read every single thing you wrote, just like I thought about what tomato said, corrected myself where I realized I was an ass and tried to see, if clarifying myself we'd have a closer or more distant view of the aspect. Some people DO LIKE to discuss, and I'm one of them, if you pay attention, I rarely swear on that cases neither I try to ad hominem.
You're remembering me of a youger version of myself that didn't know when splitting was kicking in, so I'll refrain from dragging this, but you'll be happier if you understand that a comment section in a SMUT BL is hardly the place for safe rant about being in the ACE spectrum.
rather than a basic need (should not be called this at all) then it's more appropriate to call it, as you said, a biological need. our biological "goal", as we've concluded it to be, is reproduction, however that's where we differ from animals.
humans differentiated their species the moment they created civilisation, with behavioural and societal rules to ensure civilised coexistence, cultivated their minds and were given the ability to utilise logic, nous (basically created more purposes to live and more possibilities to explore rather than solely catering to our survival needs). nowadays, beyond the stereotypical binds and patriarchal society, we are able to distinguish our own goal and not limit ourselves to the biological one. in this sense, i strongly disagree that sex inevitably comes after satisfying our needs for temporary survival.
now that we've grown to be more educated regarding this, we now choose whether we want it or not, and are in a position to regulate our libido when it goes out of control (referring mostly to males here). just because it is referred to as an instinctive tendency doesn't mean it is our basic need (this term also connotates 'mandatory'), as we are now well in control of this and aware we don't really need it.
so sex is normal, but by no means necessary (biologically it is considered necessary but fulfilling the 'biologic role' isn't). and i agree that it is absolutely appalling that sex has been glorified and seen as a power game, enjoyed as a momentary delight (ηδονή). i'd argue that excessive sex is common yet abnormal.
and it'd really be a shame to compare and intertwine your humane nature with that of an animal the intelligence of which are light years behind ours.
lizards IJBOL anything after that word is just funny, like i ain’t even mad at that shit your spewed cause it’s just you barking at an empty parking lot in the middle of the night
Guys i'll be quitting this topic cuz just had the 3rd worst day of my life and I wont remember this when I recover. Thanks for the attention and sharing your unique experiences. Stay safe, stay well.
hi, i read all the comments and i wanted to say that i was at first caught of guard by the comment you first posted but after the others i understand your pov and yours thougts. don’t worry (idk if you was really worried ahah) but i find your statement and comments really interesting. im sorry that the others have been so defensive but i can’t blame them neither can’t understand them because i don’t know them. but i really enjoyed your comments, i don’t know if your going to see this since it’s been a while but i hope you do so you can know that no harm taken! thank you for your comments, really it’s was sooo interesting and educating :)
thank you for the recommandations im going to see if i can find it in book store!!
sexuality is a very large spectra so you can’t really know how you feel exactly. like, i say im asexual because it’s the thing that is the most likely myself but who knows? one day i would read a comment too about someone who feel the same way i do and be like « omg, it’s exactly how i feel! » thank you for your comment, im happy that you don’t feel alone anymore (if i get that right im not really good with english althougt i try ahah) and that you can identify to someone/something :)
i love the fact that we all agreed that ML will be the first to fall for MC! im so ready for s2 but i just can’t help myself to think that they were already fuck buddies so it’s not a really new development. also i LOVE the MC, please be all the MC like him because he’s so new and great, i really enjoy that story for him!
i love the side couple!! but it’s really fast, two chapters ago the green hair one asked his ex if he wanted to go out with him again and now he is attracted to the brown hair one??? i think that two more chapters would be great but alright i will take this because i love them a lot, more than the main one. the main one is a lot more complicated and i first was okay with it but now that the mother of ML is involved it’s really messy and i think the autor don’t really know what to do next so they served us with the side couple while they think about the next step for the main couple. it’s my theorie at least :/
i feel like ML is strating to be in love, not MC. maybe i didn’t understanding the chapter right but to me he is more attached to the MC that MC is for the ML. like, the way he hold him or think about him or get jalous of the MC’s sunbae, all this give me this impresion and im loving it. i love when the ML is in love first/fell harder!
Right!? That is the feeling it has gave me, too! Also, due to past reads on the subject of, "I want able to bed another man except you," he feel first... meaning that mc will fall harder. I'm afraid we will either get our hearts broken by mc or this ml-cliche: I didn't know I was in love.
i hope its not « i dont know that im in love with you » from the ML because it will be really i think but if it’s the MC who rejected him and that we get an arc where the ML truc to make him call in love it would be awesome!!
YES!!!ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
i loooove this story! love the MC and ML soooo much! why are you all happy that they are not switch?? i love switch but i don’t read that so much so if you have recommendations i would take it with pleasure!
I'm happy because darkened bottoms are rare I too love switch stories also it seems like half the stories with a darkskin/tan guy ppl want them to switch. There Def should be more switch stories though absolutely agree.
ok so first i saw some spoilers and im so shocked like omg wtf?!
but before that, while i was reading i though to myself that the ML might be from a different timeline. you know like he « regressed » so that why he knows all the things that would happened (issues with the society, with the MC’s father, things that the MC likes and all). imo it makes sences for me and im not be surprised that it’s the plot the case because its already supernatural with the fact that it’s an omegaverse so why not? i think it a great plot.
HOWEVER the fact that ML’s brother r*pe MC in the previous timeline AND ML too????? no. just wtf?! why??? it was perfect!! like i was reading the panel with ML and his bouquet for MC and i was « omg he’s such a doll » AHAHAH NOW WHAT im so disappointed and i hope that MC will hate him for at list half of the story or that the timeline change idk but that the r*pe don’t became a « thing » that will bring them together or things like that because if it’s the case…… i will not do anything but you know!!
No no seme's brother didn't do anything to him in previous life only seme, it's always been him not his brother.
omg i didn’t understand that it’s horrible at any case but for the story it’s really the worse im so disappointed
Yeah, I'm waiting for uke to find out and his reaction, but at the same time I want to know what happened in their previous lifes cuz if seme was such a trash his regressed self being kind won't really make up for that shit he did only little ig...
No seme’s brother did do something to him. It wasn’t just the seme.
But he didn’t rape him, he could have hurt him but his dreams are about seme not his brother
He raped him too. Knotted him even. Seme wrongly reacted to that by also raping and knotting him.
Huh? What, really? Seme's brother knocked him? I thought it was all seme. Did you read raws further or not? That's fucked up shit ngl, the redeption arc will be crazy
*knotted
Yeah. He got pregnant and wasn’t sure who the father was.
Omg what poor MC, I thought it was at least slightly better but I feel it's been showing worse and worse mc's past
WHAT
i love this story so much like this discussion was so interesting and so refreashing! i like the way we can understand them without inner dialogue but with them commucating. and to think that the ML believe in soulmate and everything althougt MC doesn’t is sooo interesting because in other bl it’s always the MC who think like that and her too attached or the ML is a romantic but its too parodic and annoying. omg this story is the best, one of my top3 and it’s not the third!