Jesss's Topics (317)

I think he has some kind of trauma. You kill your ennemi but he doesn't want someone to die because of him what I can completely understand. I mean rapist or not life is life and it is precious.

maybe its just me. i wouldnt care about a man thats trying to rape me. lol call me cruel, but people like that never change.

I respect how you feel and I also respect your opinion, but I kinda tend to give second chance to people if they don't change then i will no longer try to defend them.

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It doesn't matter! Asami is a maniac and knowing the long haired guy raped his man, he had a turn on!!!!!!

You'd better read the parts of the story you’ve missed, you will find the long hair guy is not a bad person, and I think he is quite popular now.

Baby it's fei long don't call him long haired guy. You'll love him if you forget about the rape cause even asami is the same as him .

i was just curious. i couldnt take all the rape. im surprised asami wouldnt kill someone that he considers belonging to him. i lost respect for the long hair guy after he forced sex on him, but i guess asami is no better. i was just curious as i saw the update lol

idk, maybe it's cuz your body heat rises to kill infections, so maintaining a warm/high body heat would usually be beneficial, unless of course, you have a weak body, or the fever lasts too long. Also he's an adult so I think that makes it more reasonable? tho idk, i'm not a doctor ^^

Nothing wrong with a fever that isnt high. But all those blankets? No, please never do that. You can cause brain damage if the fever goes too high. Its not a good idea to try to play doctor and letting the fever rise to kill the infections. I am an adult and dont take anything for fevers. I let me body do its own thing. But i also dress lightly and dont use blankets. I keep an eye on the fever.

Well Hosik still had three weeks left. They were just checking into the hospital early as a precautionary thing after what happened with Hoyeons birth. So until the bleeding started having Hoyeon there really wasn't an issue ╮(￣▽￣)╭

i thought they were going to induce him? i guess i understood wrong. i didnt think a hospital would let someone just hang out until they are ready to give birth.

Regardless i wouldnt want a child in a hospital. lol They catch everything.

lol, I can see your reasoning, I wouldn't want a child in a hospital either, but they (the people not the kids) aren't really hanging out. In some cases, depending on the medical condition, especially in the maternity ward, if they feel that it is not safe for a mother to be they will put you in the hospital for watch. Usually, it's when they find something isn't right, but not dangerous, like in case if the womb is a little weak, or the baby is at the point of giving birth but isn't ready. You can go into the hospital and be put for watch for a couple of weeks until the baby is truly due. I also guess it truly depends on where you are from and which hospital you go to, however, I know many pregnant women that have gone to the hospital months, even weeks before, so they can monitor for abnormalities. I've never really had kids so I can't tell you the specific details of it, but I know my nanny had to be put into a hospital for the last six months of her pregnancy because they were afraid she wouldn't be able to hold the baby in her, the placenta was weak in the connection to the womb, so she was pretty much bedridden and monitored until she was ready, it's a good thing she was too, she had to give birth prematurely and she wasn't able to have any more kids. My sister was also monitored, not as long as my nanny before she was able to be induced. It's normal for pregnant women to be put into the ward early incase of something happening. Women's pregnancies are very fragile, a woman might act fine, and feel fine, but it might not be fine, ya know.

oh wow. i cant imagine being in a hospital for months. my sister in law had a risky pregnancy, she has the illness Hyperemesis gravidarum. She barely ate during her pregnancy. She still stayed home. Maybe they would have forced her if she needed fluids? who knows?

She would just be monitored when she would go into her appointments. I have never seen a high risk pregnant person in the hospital for months. But thats interesting to know about, so thank you for responding.

I don’t think the author is ruining his character? Actually, what the seme is going through is very normal and realistic. No one knows how long they can stay in love with someone. No one knows if one day the spark will just disappear for no reason. He loves the uke but sometimes, he has to think it through if it’s for real or not because if it wasn’t, then he’d end up being like his ex-wife who eventually ditched him. He can’t make Masato go through that so he has to be sure of his feelings now. The fact that he doesn’t want to hurt Masato is more than enough to know that he really does care about Masato. It takes time to really settle with someone and finally be at peace. The seme himself has trauma he needs to comes to terms with so it’ll be ok in the end. This process is necessary for their relationship in the future.

thank you for sharing your thoughts.

i understand having the occasional moment where you wonder if the love is still there. but when you constantly see your partner as a convenience and continually use that word to describe them. Then theres a huge issue. Especially since he believes his partner wouldnt mind being a convenience. Can you even imagine your partner having that thought about you? So i understand having doubts, but not to this extent.

I think it's important to note the choice of words here.

Asahi CHOSE him because he was convenient, but isn't STAYING with him for the same reason. Masato happened to conveniently waltz into Asahi's life and Asahi just went with it cuz it was CONVENIENT BUT... that's not the reason why he stayed or pursued Masato after Masato tried to leave him.

Asahi is more worried about his reasons for getting INTO the relationship rather than STAYING in the relationship, and I don't think that makes him a jerk in any way, shape or form.

Yas

Asahi's character is realistic. People whenever they are in a relationship go through this. I don't know why though, I guess it's just a phase.

At first Asahi might have thought Masato was convenient, but that changed after the Kousei incident thing. It's jus how he will say it to Masato would be the problem. I think Asahi will come clean and explain it because he feels guilty and wants to be comfortable. So both of them, especially him won't be burdened.

That's just my thoughts.

thats the thing, its not a temporary negative thought he had. he keeps using the word convenient. i just dont want Masato to settle for someone that sees him that way. we all have fears, but when the thoughts dont go away? thats a serious issue.

how do we know he isnt staying with him out of convenience? he cooks and takes care of him, and the easy access to sex. some people stay in dead end relationships out of convenience, even if they dont love their partners anymore. i just havent really seen him show any genuine signs that he loves Masato. Jealousy isnt proof that he loves him either. Its just my opinion, i dont think he has ever shown that he is truly in love with him. Relationships are hard enough without at least loving the partner you are with.

I think Asahi had already shown it. He is still slowly opening up. From breaking the model house, and letting Masato see his father. People are different, they cope up differently and it takes time for them to be honest. His past really took a toll on him. He keeps thinking he is defective and such. There is an emotional scar with the word love. Because he saw his mother and father in love then out of love. That's why he keeps holding back with his previous lovers. Because he knows something is wrong with him and he doesn't want to burden them, that leads to distancing himself from his ex. I also think that he is returning to his old self, I really do. But Naru will interfere, as he said in the previous story Masato was the only one who melted his cold heart. Hopefully with Naru's intervention, Asahi will do something and prove to Masato he really does love him. He will show it through his actions and say it with his own lips with feelings.

What I got from this, is during Naruse's conversation with Asahi, it Naru that said "If Masato knew that you MIGHT, even SUBCONSCIOUSLY, chosen him because it was convenient...." Asahi did NOT confirm nor deny this, but instead, he said "that vague concern is always on the back of mind mind". To me, this means he feels guilty that the thought even crossed his mind in the first place.

If anything, he feels so happy with Masato that he's literally struggling to enjoy/hold on to that happiness because of personal past traumas. It always started out happy until eventually his mom threw away his defective father, then his own wife threw him away for his own defectiveness. Just the sheer THOUGHT that he *might* have chosen Masato out of convenience is enough to send Asahi on a whole personal guilt trip. The fact that he did not admit to this means deep down he knows it's not true, and his feelings of love for Masato are genuine, but he can't help doubting himself because Asahi sees himself as lacking the basic capability of being a man.

Also, not to compare traumas, but before meeting each other Masato and Asahi were both betrayed by their lover for another. There is a big difference though. Masato's story is easier for many to sympathize with because he got cheated on by an asshole. Asahi's story is more of a personal adult-struggle, he got cheated on because his wife wanted something he could not give - a child. From their re-encounter and breakup, I think they really did love each other, but could not be a complete family, and Asahi blamed himself for it. His pain is something less spoken about, but many people are struggling with the same pain and they don't share it out of shame for their "defectiveness".

In conclusion, I sympathize with Asahi, but I think this new plot about him getting over this personal struggle is very realistic and will lead to a more strengthened relationship between him and Masato. This sequel is about Asahi's growth and letting go of his past, just as the Prequel was about Masato's growth and letting go of his past. This series is very balanced, and it does a good job in reflecting their age gap and experiences in life.

If i remember it correctly isn't it the woman who is working with Asahi who put the whole convenient thing in Asahi head? She was the one who stated that the relationship was convenient hence Asahi started to have troubling thoughts about his reason for getting with Masato. She pushed things in his head and now it looks like that slut is trying to come in between their relationship.

i noticed that too. he didnt seem to notice her trying to hit on him though. i hope he puts her in her place... =/

It's decided, it's her fault.

XD

omg thank you, this! people are taking at face value what Naru said when the words might and subconsciously were in between that sentence. I understand people not liking him, his character can't be everyone's cup of tea, but to accuses him of this when is not really what is happening is really throwing me out! He loves Masato but he's afraid of being happy because every time he was happy something fucked up happened, so he's scared and self sabotaging his relationship. I think the conclusion of his arc has to be him exposing all his insecurities at Masado and the later reassuring him that things will be ok because both will be working in the relationship.

I suggest you read Love Nest again and understand them thoroughly and then read Love Nest 2nd from the start and understand it thoroughly as well. You can only understand a character way better that way.

Already did. I am older and see things that someone young might not see.

See things, but didn't experience it yourself right? (in this case, Asahi's situation.)

yes, i have. this is something that happens everyday. people stay together because its comfortable and convenient. you will learn about that as you get older. its not right, and no one should settle.

Well I am older too and I guess I see this differently. I did a long explanation up there already but I'll summarize it again, I don't think he actually got into this relationship out of convenience. Someone put the thought in his head and now he feels guilty, afraid that there might have been an once of truth. Given his past experiences dealing with his "defectiveness", it's not hard to see why he's having doubts.

For someone so older I'm appalled by the fact that you seem to lack the wisdom of an elderly. The man was straight before he got into this relationship. He was straight and broken. He is still broken and healing. At this very moment because of his insecurities a third person is twisting his love for his partner in a dark and ugly way. This man is not staying in the relationship because he is settling he is simply trying to find the answers. No one adjust at the snap of a finger. It takes time and he is trying to figure out if he is in this for the long run or if this was simply because he is running away and it was convenient as the 3rd party suggested. If he was truly staying in the relationship for that reason he wouldn't be beating his self up about it. Because when you settle you do not fight or think about a better life. You simply accept everything and keep it moving. He is not simply accepting he's trying to get answers for the both of them. I get that this manga probably touch something a lil close to home for you but come on Elderly person see the big picture here. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ you can do it.

lol Learn some respect for people. Calling someone an elderly person is unnecessary.

By the way, MANY people stay in convenient relationships and always wonder if they did the right thing. They wonder what might have been, or people with families they stay for their children. Both partners just settle for each other. For the seme in this story he isnt getting any younger, and he found someone that takes care of him, loves him, and is good in bed. It is convenient and safe, and this happens way too often. Yes, people have doubts, but when you constantly see your partner that way, it isnt fair to not communicate. It broke my heart when the uke told him how much he loved him and the seme stayed silent. Communication is important. If two people want to settle, theres nothing wrong with it. Im no one to judge what people consider to be happiness. But be honest about it. Thats all i am saying. I just feel for the uke, because he can tell something isnt quite right in the relationship. What is sad is that the artist will magically make the seme realize that hes in love and the story is over.

I get that he was straight/ or rather hes bi now? That doesnt affect knowing whether or not he loves someone. He needs to decide if he wants the wife and kids, or if he wants to be with the uke, and whether its for convenience/love.

Yes:(

Yes, he even said that he doesn’t want all the investments his company made to the uke go to waste. Like, bruh, if I were the uke, I’d quit immediately. His partner is his boss, and professional and personal matters should be separate, but Taekyung knows that Siheon is not a murderer because he wants to. He ought to know what should’ve and shouldn’t be said at that time. But guess what, a jerk will always be a jerk. He should’ve quit and left that dumbass right after he heard what he said. （￣へ￣）

exactly. there were so many times i wished he would just leave it. i dont see things lasting. the seme only sees money and that wont change.

Not to mention the fact that he has 0 trust in Siyeon. He literally monitors his every move and even makes people watch over him so that he can’t go outside. He’s always telling him to stay in the house and not go anywhere unless it’s for his job. The worst part about all this is that Siyeon is completely unaware about the fact that he is under surveillance 24/7. The only time that Siyeon seemed genuinely happy in his relationship and was starting to like Taekyung was when he became distant since he was getting busy with work, besides the times when they had sex of course. I get that he felt suffocated from Taekyung’s presence, but if he was that happy being away from him, then I dunno, they are probably better off breaking up lol.