koneka January 22, 2021 3:17 pm

Why authors like to bring period fashion into their stories WITHOUT RESEARCHING FIRST? I mean, it is not hard to read some articles or even see some yt videos about the topic before writing it down. If you are just bringing the clothes without approaching the fashion and the designs I can turn a blind eye, because it is not important to the storie, but when people write plots and approach fashion and not even research first it makes me so angry!!! CORSETS WEREN'T MEANT TO BE TIGHTEN, THEY WERE THERE FOR SUPPORT PURPOSES AND TO MAKE THE APROPRIATE SILHOUETTE!!!

    Carmel January 22, 2021 3:53 pm

    Not everything has to be real tbh I’m sure the authors can do whatever they want since it’s their story and all but who cares personally I won’t search historic fashion trends simply cuz they were in one story a biss is too lazy for that and that would have been wasted effort on the authors part....

    Kimi January 22, 2021 4:36 pm

    Because this is a fictional piece, not a historical piece, so authors have every liberty to take information from different pieces across history to create their own unique dresses and fashion that can be a combination of rococo and victorian, for instance. Furthermore, that information is not as readily available in Korean.

    Kimi January 22, 2021 4:43 pm

    Furthermore, believe it or not, corsets were actually uncomfortable because the silhouette required tightening. It wasn't impossible to move, or even to do sports and physical activity, but it absolutely was uncomfortable, especially if it was a new corset you were getting fitted to.

    Kimi January 22, 2021 5:27 pm
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    yeah right XD a western historical piece, rather than a fantasy story based off of western aesthetics by an eastern author

    koneka January 22, 2021 8:13 pm
    Not everything has to be real tbh I’m sure the authors can do whatever they want since it’s their story and all but who cares personally I won’t search historic fashion trends simply cuz they were in one ... Carmel

    For sure they can do whatever they want, I'm just annoyed because it is not something hard to discover, the myth about corsets I mean. I don't expect things to be historical accurate, but the author is trying to tell us he based this dresses in actual period dresses from our world, so they should at least know this much. It's like if I go and write a storie and the MC design a new kimono she based on real kimonos from our world and the kimono is made out of muslin.

    koneka January 22, 2021 8:30 pm
    Furthermore, believe it or not, corsets were actually uncomfortable because the silhouette required tightening. It wasn't impossible to move, or even to do sports and physical activity, but it absolutely was un... Kimi

    No, they weren't. Women climbed mountains in corsets, literally. This is not something you could do if you run out of breath just by walking like many stories portraite. Of course it is not as confortable as being naked, but depending on the person it would be even more confortable then wearing a modern bra since it sustain the bust distribuing the weight all over the torso instead of just in a couple stripes over your shoulders. They weren't tighten, they were made to fit the body perfectly (for noble ladies at least). But my point is that they brought the 'this is something of my previous world', they even try to explain the 'marie antoinette' aesthetic, so the least they could do is try to research what they are trying to bring into the storie. Am I annoying? Absolutely, but since this is my area of expertise, it kind of botthers me more than the avarege person, especially since this is such a common mistake.

    Kimi January 22, 2021 8:59 pm
    No, they weren't. Women climbed mountains in corsets, literally. This is not something you could do if you run out of breath just by walking like many stories portraite. Of course it is not as confortable as be... koneka

    This is my area of expertise as well. Im majoring in anthropology. But you have to understand that corsets *were* uncomfortable. I'm not saying they inherently harmed the body, or made it impossible to work, but as someone who has worn actual Victorian clothing and traditional corsets, it is uncomfortable. Not painful, but uncomfortable, especially when breaking it in for the first time. It forces your posture in a way most people aren't used to, and the inability to slouch is, believe it or not, uncomfortable. Having something that wrapped around your body that makes you sweaty is, believe it or not, uncomfortable.
    You also have to understand that this information is not as readily available in Eastern countries as it is in Western countries because, guess what, the East has its own fashion history that didn't involve history, and acting as if it's necessary for Eastern people or even as possible as it is for us in the West to learn about European history and the clothing throughout all of the many countries and all of the different decades is a very... well it's a take.
    In the story, when she was writing the novel, she's a Korean kid who likes western history and is inspired by some historical figures, or at least the images of those figures she's been presented with. If you were complaining about a western author I suppose I would be more empathetic, but the author is Korean. A country that until quite recently, wasn't as affected by the West and mainly had to worry about being enslaved by Japan, or fighting wars between itself before it became one unified country.
    Furthermore, this is a fantasy story. The author, both the actual author and our main character, have no need to be accurate with the fashion styles and trends they have taken inspiration from. Save your energy for Western historical pieces, not Eastern fantasy pieces simply inspired by Western aesthetics.

    Kimi January 23, 2021 1:21 am
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    I say it's valid to want historical accuracy in western historical films, but crying for historical accuracy in fantasy settings merely inspired by western aesthetic is just.. applying the passions you have to things that ultimately remain unaffected by what you're passionate about.

    koneka January 23, 2021 2:32 am
    This is my area of expertise as well. Im majoring in anthropology. But you have to understand that corsets *were* uncomfortable. I'm not saying they inherently harmed the body, or made it impossible to work, bu... Kimi

    As someone who use a corset at a daily basis (mostly because of my scoliosis) and make them myself from patterns originated from different eras I can say that after sometime using it, for me it was about 1 week, almost all the disconfort is gone, the remaining is better then when I have to use a bra. "It forces your posture in a way most people aren't used to" but people were used to it, so this is not a valid argumment in my opinion. "You also have to understand that this information is not as readily available in Eastern countries as it is in Western countries" I totally agree with you about this not being a common knowledge, but the author decide to make the storie in the western so a little bit of research is need it. Like I said before, I'm not saying that I wish the storie was historicly accurate, but the problem in saying that corsets were painfull and stuff is that it end up being an excuse for the women not being able of doing a lot of thing, they put them like someone who needs to loose their corsets to eat well, or to breathe properly, and if she wants to be strong she need to stop wearing corsets and that is not the case. Women are not delicate flowers and corsets are not some torture instrument. And you say they don't need to know, but if I writed a novel telling people that people used to fainted because their tightened their obi to much it would be the same thing. We have google, so it is not so difficult to research something you WANT to putt in your writing. There is a lot of mistakes if we talk about actually historical accuracy, but I'm not botther by it (since it is something that wouldn't affect the plot), I'm annoyed because of all the context envolving corsets being painfull and stuff, and writers (westerns and easterns) using it as a tool to make women frail and submissive in some way. (And this is not just in this one, I read it to many stories who utilize this and that's why it annoy me enough to make me leave a comment)

    P.S.: I have a major degree in Arts and I'm doing my master degree in period fashion (I'm from Brazil, so in terms of books and other sources, the majority is not even in my first language)

    koneka January 23, 2021 3:15 am
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    Did you read what I writed to the end? I'm not doing a critic about the dresses choices or the period the author are taking inspiration of. I'm not even talking about the dresses and the fashion itself but the corset being portraited as some tool of torture. Like I said in almost all of my replys I DO NOT CARE if they mix different period times or if they do some design choices because it is not a historical story, it is set in an fiction world. BUT the author CHOOSE to use and she even told us a little about the design. And another thing that I already talk about, if the fashion is there just to exist, ok, it doesn't matter, but if it is part of the plot and if is something that is saying stuff why wouldn't I pointed out what I think about? FOR ME it is something annoying, if it isn't for you great. My comment was made not just because of this manga but because of all the stories I readed thar portraites corsets as some kind of evil instruments. It is my opinion about them researching a little more if they want to TALK about it. If it was just the western aesthetic you could just look at pictures and described, but the author decided to aproach this theme, not me.

    Katzy January 23, 2021 6:14 am

    THANK
    YOU

    Kimi January 23, 2021 8:16 am
    As someone who use a corset at a daily basis (mostly because of my scoliosis) and make them myself from patterns originated from different eras I can say that after sometime using it, for me it was about 1 week... koneka

    First, never once did I say corsets were painful. I simply said they were uncomfortable, especially when breaking in. Our main character hasn't worn a corset before, even if the body she's in has, so it's valid that she's uncomfortable.
    Second, Brasil has a history with western culture because of Portuguese Colonialism. Korea does not. Koreas main browser is not Google, it is NAVER. So the same resources you have available, even in countries such as Brasil, are not available in Korea.
    Eastern countries did not have corsets. It is understandable that they have misinformation about it. Especially the character, who as a high schooler, probably wouldn't have had access to academic books about corsets, so would have written them to be uncomfortable in the fictional story she reincarnated into.
    Just please understand that Eastern authors will not have the same information that you do and fantasy stories, especially ones where a character is teleported to a novel or video game, do not owe historical accuracy in regards to clothing or to corsets.
    In fact, it makes sense that the corsets in the story she teleported into are uncomfortable because she wrote it as a teenager when she didn't know anything.

koneka January 22, 2021 12:48 am

My reading list rn have 270 titles, so I'm doing some clean up. This one are going to the dropped list since is kind of meh. The art is ok but nothing impressive and the storie is so tiresome. I read all the chapters and I just can relate to any characters.

koneka January 22, 2021 12:43 am

Yeah... I mean, the art is cute and it is an isekai with an loving dad, but there is nothing more to it than some boring and predictable plots.

koneka January 22, 2021 12:34 am

One thing that I really don't understand is WHY? I mean, they could tell the same storie about them without she being a minor. There is a lot of mangas who aproach age gap with both protagonists being adults and there is other stuff in this too which didn't depend on she being underage. I mean... again, WHY? It is really necessary? It botthers me a LOT!

    Nicky&Mickey April 27, 2021 3:36 am

    Because its adds drama! Forbidden romance is crack to some folks.

koneka January 21, 2021 1:40 pm

I think is because I'm latina, but boy oh boy, if a psycho like this guy slap me in the face I would fly into his neck and start punching him with all my body. I don't care if he could be stronger than I, I would destroy that bitch's face!

    darklilwolf January 21, 2021 7:52 pm

    From one latina to another I whole heartedly agree, I don't give a fuck if I might lose, I'm gonna at least try to go down doing as much damage as I can.

    koneka January 21, 2021 8:23 pm

    EXACTLY MY POINT!! And you know how we fight, we don't play clean so we could make a lot of damage

    PeachyWeeb January 21, 2021 11:13 pm
    EXACTLY MY POINT!! And you know how we fight, we don't play clean so we could make a lot of damage koneka

    EIJO DE SU PUTA MADRE US LATINAS LETS GANGUP ON THIS BITCH (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

    Sindy January 22, 2021 1:36 am
    EXACTLY MY POINT!! And you know how we fight, we don't play clean so we could make a lot of damage koneka

    im downnn lets fuck him upp

koneka January 12, 2021 12:11 am

I kind of like it at first because the diferent aproach to the MC, but the plot is SO CONFUSE!! I readed half of the chapters and I couldn't figure it out anything other than she has to go to the ball with the duke and in the original story she died by his hand. That's it. She has a bad temper, but I don't see anything being used. The confrontantion with the duke's cousin for instance, they never show it clearly, and we didn't even know where did she run to and how that girl found her so easy and quickly. Other than this, all the characters looks like they are 12!!!! The MC's father you could said look like he is 15. I don't know, everything except for the premise made me drop this.

koneka December 9, 2020 12:16 pm

I'm kind of getting scared about their relationship... I mean, he is becoming obsessed with her in a not very healthy way. She can't do anything without him knowing and even when she tells people about something they don't respect her and tell the duke (yes, I'm talking about the buttler since she told him the duke already knew and he still told him like her word wasn't valid). You can say is romantic but for me it's turning out pretty creepy.

    Alexandria_16 December 9, 2020 12:25 pm

    They have a better relationship in the novel and yes he is very obsessed with her

    Mokona44 December 9, 2020 12:25 pm

    The yandere trope is only romantic and working when the partner of the yandere love him back and kinda don't mind being controled after all. If feelings were not reciprocated or the partener finaly wanted to break the relationship it would quickly turn into a very disturbing tell. Well, in the novel he never crossed a red line (be it bbecause he decided to respect her wishes or because he didn't have to yield) so who knows for this one.

    Tamaki December 9, 2020 2:15 pm

    As a novel reader i assure you..don't worry and just continue to read..you'll eventually see that they actually have a healthy relationship.ლ(´ڡ`ლ) ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

koneka December 8, 2020 1:39 am

THE TAG SAYS YAOI NOT SHOUNEN AI!!!

koneka December 8, 2020 1:33 am

I started reading but I can't anymore. It's so frustating and it doesn't make any sense! You barely get to know the MC to feel empathetic towards her so the only feeling that I get is anger and discomfort! I mean, the bitch can control people (the black haired) so it makes sense they send her to the crown's princess selection, BUT WHY THE HELL THE MC ACCEPT TO BE HER MAID AND TREAT HER LIKE SHE IS SUPERIOR???? I wouldn't say anything if it was something like a lady-in-waiting situation, but they are, theoretically, sisters, so WHY SHE WOULD GO AND JUST ACCEPT? And don't give me that bullshit about "we always pay our debts"-ish because she didn't give them that money for free, SHE EXCHANGED FOR BEING ADOPTED AND FOR THE INVITATION!! She even get to send their biological daughter to live IN THE ATTIC!!!! What kind of nonsense is that argumment about repaying her???? I already saw the spoilers and I don't give a damn about the black haired's true intentions since envolve being a bitch to the MC for no reason at all!

    Ken Yamari December 8, 2020 4:30 pm

    Uh there is a reason just keep reading it and you'll see lol

    koneka December 8, 2020 9:54 pm

    I already know the reason and that it's exactly why I said the idea isn't bad, but the way they portray the storie is very unpleasent. I just didn't want to spoiler the manga for those who will keep reading, so I didn't mentioned.

    Ken Yamari December 9, 2020 3:06 am
    I already know the reason and that it's exactly why I said the idea isn't bad, but the way they portray the storie is very unpleasent. I just didn't want to spoiler the manga for those who will keep reading, so... koneka

    OH- okay xD
    lol I just got a bit confused but I gottchu now-

    koneka December 9, 2020 5:00 am
    OH- okay xD lol I just got a bit confused but I gottchu now- Ken Yamari

    English is not my first language so I tried the best I could to express what I think about the manga, but I guess it is a little confusing since I didn't get into the spoilers and kind of just said "it sucks" hahahaha

    Ken Yamari December 9, 2020 8:03 am
    English is not my first language so I tried the best I could to express what I think about the manga, but I guess it is a little confusing since I didn't get into the spoilers and kind of just said "it sucks" h... koneka

    Hahahaha You did but I dont blame you xD

    bro December 16, 2020 5:13 pm
    Uh there is a reason just keep reading it and you'll see lol Ken Yamari

    what is the reason???

koneka December 6, 2020 5:43 pm

I don't like any of the characters. She is in a abusive relationship so I understand a lot of what she is been through, but I don't think the manga is trying to show us her getting throw it, but the ex being her hero and I hate this. Her husband is dreadful and her ex is so pushy. The best thing would be her getting a grip to her life again, persuing her dreams and then entering another relationship, a healthy one this time. But this type of manga don't know what healthy relationships are, so problably she will cheat her husband with her ex, she will finally decide to break off with him, the husband will try to kill her because of it and her ex will show up to save the day. I can be wrong, but I don't thinlk so.

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