the duke is handsome and everything but like...it seems like too little too late. juvel needed him when she was growing up, but now the dude has the audacity to show he cares about her? homie you showing your love now doesn't get rid of the years you neglected. and i understand he did it to keep the emperor from harming her but like...why didn't you try like you're doing now?
...maybe i'm projecting my daddy issues on juvel...i need my therapist...
He always cared for her but she somehow misunderstood. Because the tone of his voice might be too harsh for a lady to take it as ‘care’ .
He never neglected her. He was busy making money/future for his daughter.... but it was not worth it.
Because her one and only daughter misunderstood and afraid of him.
but he did neglect her. she said that she never saw him around and that he didn't even come to her debutante ball. and every time she went looking for him he told her to leave. that's literally neglect. also like fuck the money/future? who cares about that when you could spend your time with your daughter?
but fr tho it was never about the money--it was all about protecting her from the emperor but it's still too little too late. she's just as possible to be killed now than when she was a kid. it's better to show affection to your daughter when she needs it than when she's an independent adult.
Well you already know that the emperor is the problem so idk why are you so mad
And if there’s no misunderstanding, there would be no story
skfkskdmf i was never mad i just wanted to respond
homie literally heard the words "stop it" and still shoved his magnum dong into my boy...
also why this mans titties bigger than mine why he got massive honkers i love it
i wanted her to do some kinda parkour away from him skdksk that would have been so funny skfkkskd
but girl...that bread was fresh...why did u leave it...
holy shit roxanna is so fucking cool
also i don't think her relationship with dion has any sexual/romantic undertones. i think it's more of dion never having someone to love him like roxanna loved her brother. instead of her transferring those familial feelings of affection to him when her brother died, she hates him which is why he pays so much attention to her.
i think he wants her to love him like she loved her brother. he doesn't have anyone (who understands him as well as she does) in their family. i think it's a "we are fucked up in the same way because of our family and we have been told family is everything so why do you despise me? you are the only person who understands me. and i am the only person who understands you."
this is a really long comment but i just wanted to say that i don't there are any incestuous undertones. just a dude who wants to be bffs w his sister who hates him.
I actually agree to this... Roxana and her brother had that bond that no one in the family had. SO i guess there are other siblings who crave for the kind of familial intimacy. (e.g. DION)
100%. like roxana and her brother had like a "pure love" for each other. and by that i mean it was a relationship where the affection was 100% reciprocated and they had each other's backs no matter what. roxana had someone who actively loved her and tried to protect her. dion never had that. the agrich family has literally been described as a "survival of the fittest" and in a situation like that it's rare to have someone by your side like her brother was with her. dion probably wanted that and STILL wants that which is why he's willing to follow roxana's orders.
Someone in the comments said that it is explicitly sexual in the novel.
but the manhwa clarifies that his intentions towards are anything but sexual (esp in this last chapter, ch 29). if it is sexual in the novel that's so fucking weird and i'm glad they aren't doing that in the manhwa
No, it's still sexual?
She says, "If what you wanted from me was to simply relieve your sexual desire." Fontaine, just wants sex but Dion wants "love". But it is incestuous all the way around. Chapter 27 was definitely sexual in context between Dion and Roxanna.
If you can't tell then you just aren't reading close enough. I mean, why did you think they were hugging?
i always figured the close contact was a way to symbolize how roxana knows dion wants her to be as close to him as she was with her brother but isn't. i mean in her dreams she's also pretty affectionate with her brother like putting their foreheads together.
i still don't think their relationship is sexual or romantic at all
i mean like i know that agia is the ml but the vampire...asking for consent...and having long hair...that's so sexc...
What consent? Neither on them ask for consent just put some voodoo shit on the uke so he’s not conscious enough for consent
yeah you aren't wrong at all but i was referring more to chapter 13 where the vampire refused to have sex without prep whereas agia just rams it in there lol
how is this one of the best manhwas i have ever read
fuck the og ml let tashiro get with the handsome dude
oh so in your case good-looking matters the most ....hm...
wish you a good luck in your love life
hope you meet a beauty/handsome
with a easy heart☻
it’s just a manga dude...it’s not that deep lol
ok .
i know tita and ice lady will get together in the end bc that’s what kinda of manhwa this is but...tita that’s your MOM!!!! SHES YOUR MOM THATS GROSS
Oedipus?
i’ll blind myself if tita doesn’t
I wish I could upvote this response because it’s so good.
she never considers herself his mom tho nor does she say she considers him her son
i know but it’s like...how can someone see a child they raised as a potential love interest? like ice lady is straight up raising tita—she’s essentially his mom/parent/guardian.
tbh the minute this manhwa starts doing some actual romance shit between tita and the ice lady i’m yeeting the fuck out
yup also shes really old like 400 years old or sum
you know yet you're still here reading while complaining... instead of calling it gross you could have voiced your opinion less harshly. also i dont get ppl like you, you say it disgusts you so much yet ou continued to read it weird...
i meant it when i called it gross lol. a romantic relationship between a long term guardian (the ice lady) and a child is what i would consider gross and i’m not going to say that in “nicer” terms esp bc i’m allowed to have my own opinions.
i’m reading it rn because there has been no active romance between tita and the ice lady . right now they’re just family and i like it but when that dynamic starts to change, i’ll stop reading it lol
uhhh they dont even see each other like that? tita has never seen her as a guardian and vice versa (well to the point where their like mother and son at least). never. also idk why you repeated what i just said that youre allowed to have your opinion cuz I literally said you can? anyways idk why you guys set yourself up to failure like that? like you know their going to be together, as you stated, yet youre going to stop when theres active romance. i mean there is romance already lol, tita is crushing hard in the recent chapter and he's going to be aware of it soon sooo yea..... so much for that familial dynamic that you wanted lol
Let me be honest here , I will find u here reading this even when actual romance start
Uh... How could you... I dropped "beware of the brothers" immediately after knowing FL will end up with her adoptive oldest brother, the story still had no romance when i left (both FL and ML are still kids and act like normal siblings but i just can't read it anymore after hearing the spoiler that they will be a couple), and i don't go so far calling the adoptive siblings romance is gross, i just feel kinda uncomfortable, but here you are fully knowing something gross will happen and still continue reading
how can u raise someone and then see them sexually??? that's gross
tita, as a CHILD, crushing on an ADULT woman is different than a whole ass romance between the two. there's a difference between a child having an innocent crush and a grown woman reciprocating a relationship with a child she has practically raised. i don't think it's rare for children with abandonment issues to have a crush on the first person who gives them love/a stable authority figure.
i...you literally criticized my comment and said it was "too harsh." thats like the definition of saying "you can't comment your opinion unless i approve of it." as of right now, the familial dynamic exists bc the ice lady doesn't see tita in that manner. it's tita who has a one sided crush. the ice lady literally doesn't see him that way which is why there's no romance yet. when it comes time where the ice lady starts reciprocating i'm gonna yeet the fuck out bc i still think it's gross and really inappropriate for an adult to see a child they've raised as a romantic interest.
honest to god. especially because she's known tita as what a six year old? if i heard that any adult started to romantically like the child they hade guardianship over id throw hands immediately at the adult.
so many of these mangas have adult women (in children's bodies yes, but are mentally adults) crushing on the kids they've raised and it's like ??? if this was a man (looking at you that one manhwa with the abused child living with her "cousin") i don't think it would be as quickly accepted as this one.
its fucking fiction, go cry me a river. dont know why ppl decide to lecture like no gaf except yall, do you guys think just bc you go off about it, ppl will stop reading it? I never see this energy except when its women, for fuck sake, Ive seen men in the similar place and no one talks about it. ex: noragami, the vampire diaries, twilight, I forgot this other one where this guy had a large age gap with the FL, and was by her side till she grew up too (its a yakuza story, if someone knows the name drop it) and yep, no one complained about that. keep the same energy then. also why dont you ppl put your energy into real life things, the pedophile and grooming in media, like celebrities and popes, why complain about it in a fictional story. I swear ppl cry about fictional characters like baku more than are concerned in what's happening in society rn, I literally seen some ppl get dox bc of a fictional character wtf
ok I didnt see this comment before but shut the fuck up bitch, you replied to two of my comments already, you fucking weirdo, why are you scrolling all the way to older comments to start shit again like this is literally in February. I swear, why waste your energy and read old comments and reply to them
dude what the fuck are you on about??? are you okay??? i'm allowed to express my fucking opinion bitch and i'm not expecting anyone to stop reading because of it. just for you, i'm going to explain what leaving a comment means. it means anyone can post their own fucking opinions and thoughts about a manhwa in peace. also really? "also why dont you ppl put your energy into real life things." bitch do you really fucking think that my life revolves around manga? i have an actual life outside of this lol.
also, me responding to old comments means nothing other than remembering that this thread exists. someone else commented and i was reminded i never responded to you so might as well comment now. don't be so arrogant to think that i specifically came here for you.
and if you still don't understand, then get fucked i'm allowed to post whatever the fuck i want and comment whenever i want.
uh dumb wanker that reply wasn't even for you LMAOOOOO you look mad goofy. but anyways ill reply too, ppl like you who say you have a life but yet complain about anything in a manga, bro. like that doesnt say enough for you. " OMG THATS SO GROSS TITA THATS YOUR MOM" fuck I busted a lung. im sure you have a great life outside your a uhhh manga thing sure ... "pls Tita dont..." PFFTTT HAHAHAHAHAH
uh i mean this with 100% sincerity but are you okay???
that likes lucas and athanasia. hes like 1000
y the fuck are yall fighting each other sit down read the manga and stfu damn
When I was 13, I had my first love
There was nobody that compared to my baby
And nobody came between us, nor could ever come above
She had me going crazy
Oh, I was starstruck
She woke me up daily, don’t need no Starbucks
She made my heart pound, and skip a beat when I see her in the street and
At school on the playground, but I really want to see her on the weekend
She knows she's got me dazing, cause she was so amazing
And now my heart is breaking, but I just keep on saying
honestly probably not, I can't seem to cum these days, like when I have sex, nothing comes out. I am pretty concerned about that, thank you for asking, no one asks me how I am these days, but still I stand by statement that youre a weird for going thru old comments to start the arguments again LOL
oh you replied to my comments specifically so I thought you were talking to me :( but guess you weren't, im so sad :((( maybe next time learn to comment or replied correctly
lolol i didnt even think of that
it would have been really funny if she flipped potato head off while the carriage was moving past him skfkskdmf