After reading chapter 18, I'm enjoying reading this and I expect so much from it even though it's only the first chapter int his story. This whole don't-touch-me-don't-get-your-fluids-on-me new host is by far the most interesting one <3 I'm restraining myself from seeing the raws.
it always has a happy ending, I could read with my heart at ease knowing that it'll end well despite the gore (some of her stories are pretty bloody) and the heartbreaks
there was absolutely nothing "romantic" about their relationship and I usually appreciate a good obsessive love much better than fluff but I wonder how I GOT here by googling "obsessive yaoi love", this isn't "love" at all.
I like a twisted seme that falls for the uke in a dark way but this seems like he wanted revenge honestly, he might say that all he ever wanted was the uke but it didn't seem that way. you can't act like you don't give a sh*t about him, date other girls, seduce his own sister and then abandon him and then say "I've always been in love with you" ! and why in the world would he even love him ? I would've understood if he actually knew the uke before he fell down stairs but he didn't so did he fall for im at first sight while he was falling down ? so stupid, such waste of a decent art
My thoughts exactly! Waste of time
There is this thing that always annoys me when reading yaoi, the way the uke often refers to himself as a virgin even though he has already had sex with the seme, he keeps separating "the front" and"the back" as if he has "two virginities" -_-
A virgin is someone who has never had sex, end of story. In this manga it isn't that big of a deal but it brought back memories from when I first read junjou romantica and Misaki kept bit*hing about being a virgin for a good 15 chapters...Bit*h you've been getting it for about 4-5 years (I think he celebrated his 22 birthday and when he started living with usagi he was 18) get over it !
no hate for junjou romantica though since it's absolutely my number 1 fav yaoi but Misaki was super annoying, thank god he is better now.
i'm actually pretty sure that's because japanese has two words for virgin. and yes, it's separated like that. so, since english only has one word for it that makes it sound odd when you translate it.
that's weird... so in Japan, you can legit call a uke who has been having sex (as a bottom) for decades a "virgin" just because he didn't have sex with a woman ? that's funny x')
and what do you call s.o. who had sex with a women but never had anal sex with a man ?
he is virgin (at least anal virgin)
lol nope, a virgin is by definition, someone who has never had sex. If a guy had sex with eve 1 woman in his entire life then he isn't a virgin that's it. Or do you call every straight guy an "anal virgin" ? that's hilarious actually...
it's because the words are basically splitting female and male virginities. y'know so it would be taking it(female) and putting it in(male) i guess, eh. so if a guy has only has anal sex then technically he is still a "virgin" i.e. he hasn't put it in yet. but if a guy has, let's say, normal sex then he would have gotten rid of his (male) virginity. and of course you wouldn't actually ask a guy if he was a (female)virgin. so that's how that works.
I've also found it really annoying but thanks to your explanation, lots of these stories make more sense!!! Maybe I can finally enjoy them without that niggling annoyance!!! Going back to reread some of these "virgin-not virgin" stories :)
Does this means that lesbians that don't use toys to penetrate are also considered vigins?
Do they consider any penetration as end of being virgin? Example: a woman that never had sex with a man but uses sexual toys???
So, for them, a seme is no more vigin (even though he never had sex with a woman) but the uke is still virgin???
to answer from the bottom up, yes, the uke would still be technically considered a (male) virgin. he couldn't claim to be not a virgin in that sense but if he said he had sex then that skirts the word(virgin) and people know that he's not innocent.
if a guy uses a fleshlight does that mean he is not a virgin anymore? of course not. same thing. even if a woman uses sexual toys she would still be a virgin.
technically those lesbians would still be considered virgins. however, in lesbian circles since there's really only the one word for female virginity they just use the word virgin as not having had sex and therefore it reclaims its actual meaning instead of getting specific as opposed to how gay guys are able to borrow it and use two different words to separate things.
Thanks
Nah....a person who has had sex is not a virgin. It can be any type of sex. Two women who have had sex with each other are not virgins. It doesn't have to do with only having sex with the opposite sex.
I hate this story and that has nothing to do with the threesome. It's just that this was plain running after sex... seriously there was no emotion there, the sex didn't even look appealing to me, I just wanted the scene to end so I can read how things'll go from there except that things went no where and the story ended
I usually like this mangaka's work and the twisted relationship thing is my fetish but even through the dark manipulative stuff that the seme pulls, I like to see that he does actually love the uke even a little which is the case with the other yaois that I love but this one didn't show any amount of love to me. The seme even left the door open, let the classmate see the uke in that state and above all the uke seems like he's mentally broken. That's why I said it's not my thing. There's a difference between a little S/M going on and a cruel seme that breaks the uke completely
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I just thing they're so painful and I'd never get one, same with tattoos.
But hey as long as they're both okay with it and seem to even have a piercing fetish then all is good
I love manipulative characters who are so obsessed with another that they use every twisted thing possible to make them theirs. I would've hated it if it seemed like the obsessed character mistreats the other or abuses them (although some might call this abuse, I don't see it that way) but as long as love is involved, all is fair. I love the seme's twisted personality
I love bondage and taboo relationship when done right, I hate straight couples (bro x sis ) but for yaoi I can never dislike a "good" incest as in when they treasure each other even in a very twisted dark way.
And for people that are complaining about the sadist seme and the incest, it was pretty obvious from the first panel. It literally had the uke bound to a chair with a vibrator on so it can't get any more obvious than that. You should've quit reading by then instead of reading the entire thing and complaining in the comment section
I think yaoi is more preferred over younger girls compared to like hentai because hentai has less plot/story, less emotions, more full blown sex. Girls want to read the drama, angst, twisted cool stories, and get into the character development of cute ukes etc. Yaois put much more weight on incest than hentai unless the hentai fetish is mainly about incest.. but for bro x sis, it's not major. For hentai, major incest taboo are like mother x son. And there's limited bdsm hetero that isn't hentai.
Yes! Drama! Twisted stories! Cute ukes! they all rock!
My only problem is how manipulative the seme was. I don't mind rape or insest.
At first I was so weirded out by the rape/sex to pay a debt/office sex in front of others/too much fluids during sex ... stuff and I dropped it for over 2 years and then I came back (I got hungrier for yaoi I guess) and now that I've read every single chapter, I still wish for some sweet moments but I know after reading 12 volumes (last 3 volumes raws) that their relationship is always gonna be like that, even if by some luck Ayase confessed, the seme would always be super possessive and there'll always be people after Ayase to get to the seme etc..
That's why I said I've gotten used to it by now
even if kanou is still possesive and ayase still confused they really do love eachother and want eachother and this is the truth cuz their relationship changed a lot so i believe that everything changed about them or why would ayase ask kanou if he can stay with him when the debt is over in v11 ? everyone of them is making his own mistakes toward the other but there is love between them
but u since u read the manga from the first volume to the last one do u think that the old ayase will huge kanou and wants him when they are having sex ? do u think old ayase will hold the hand of kanou and hold his back ? of course no so how u can say the relationship will be always the same ? even if there is something didnt change yet u know something had really happened if its not clear in v12 it will be in v13 next year and i do believe in this
in that aspect, I do agree that Ayase is slowly changing. But my point is, it has been 12 volumes and Kanou still has sex with Ayase in his office despite Ayase hating it when the driver (one of the twins) walks in on them. Kanou still has sex with Ayase whenever he wants without Ayase's consent. True, that Ayase is a bit more accepting right now but he hasn't come to terms with homosexuality and Kanou isn't giving him space and that hasn't changed since day one.
Honestly, I can see that Ayase is special to Kanou or else he wouldn't go to such lengths to get him back when he is taken away or protect him but whenever it comes to his sexual urges he hasn't changed a bit
Well I know that the relationship of the masterxservant will be always there and I know that Kanou will not change and ayase won't give up for Kanou easily but when u see how much they do care about each other and help each other and the fact that they can't live without each other u know that under this masterxslave relationship there is a big love hiding itself there cuz Kanou no matter how much he is jerk and mean with ayase he does loves him more anything and ayase even if he always rejects Kanou and won't to make it hard for both of them u know that he wants Kanou and loves him and hate the idea of losing him as Kanou does so even if there relationship is developing slowly and there are things want change they will complete their journey together as long as there is love between them and only haters of this manga want to deny it but I guess in the futur volumes a lot of things will happen and will make them a true lovers
and wont make it easiy for them / and there are thing wont change...sorry for the mistakes