
Aside from the kiss....
She was hanged for defamation?? This place is uncivilised we get it....but girl you are a modern day lady....you just accepted that? I wanna barf

if you look at attempted murder, the sentence should be life imprisonment, not the death penalty. Furthermore, what she did was defamation and harrassment, not exactly attempted murder because she hasnt physically gone and threatened her life with a weapon or assaulted her. Defamation can be jailtime or fine, but definitely not death. It is only attempted murder IF Chloe did go to the forest full of monsters and got hurt. But she didnt. It is only attemoted murder if she hired a hitman as a weapon to harm with intent to kill. Therefore, I would agree that the sentence is archaic and she cant help the society, but her just lowkey thinking its ok it just feels like nobility snobbery to kill someone that doesnt like you just because you are a duchess.

IF Chloe didn't meet the knights she would have DEFINITELY gone and someone would have been hurt or dead.
hmm i think I can see your point however because I'm placing myself in Chloe shoes and thinking I could have die IF I didn't meet the knights ofcourse I would get rid of her. She knew about the frogs that can kill people which is why she recommended that place to Chloe other maids. She had the INTENT to kill/harm someone. She's someone sick in the head everything she did is because she had suffered from an inferior complex. Honestly speaking i do believe she deserves to die. I think it was a just punishment if in this time period they dont have the type of help a person sick in the head like her needed. Plus you have to remember that in this period there is a class hierarchy to follow and she committed a grave sin to someone ABOVE her status.
Honestly speaking had she stick to the minor harass I would have totally agreed that the punishment was excessive; HOWEVER, when she planned to physically cause harm to Chloe or one of the maid just to make Chloe's REPUTATION suffer.... Hmm nope that's out of line and she got what she deserve.
Also all our arguments are based on IF so i personally don't think anyone is right or wrong. I just wanted to share how I felt too.

lol just because someone came from the modern age doesn't mean they can't adapt to punishing criminals that want people dead the way they do in that time period. If someone wanted me to die and they try to trick me into getting myself killed they would be punished however the law is there and I would be fine with it. It depends on the crime and how severe it is. She definitely got what she deserved imo ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

Honestly, if I put myself in Chloe’s shoes, I won’t mind that maid getting such punishment at all....
And if I want to compare this situation.....
Imagine, a young adult girl went to a countryside to receive his inheritance from his only one last relative, maybe a house where his grandpa has lived on before he passed away. The girl inherited everything in the house, including all the money and the servants/staffs who work there. The girl don’t know anything about that countryside areas. Suddenly a senior servant recommended a certain place for her to visit, the servant said that place is very beautiful and serene, bla-bla-bla...
Hearing this, the girl decided to went there to take a look.
But, unknown to her, that recommended place actually a deserted place with scattered landmines. Because this is countryside, people around there has been living there for long time and everyone already know that place is dangerous.
When the girl almost entering that place, a farmer who were close-by at that time saw her and immediately stopped her. Farmer told her the truth of that place and how the girl would have been in grave danger if she was not stopped on time.
In this situation, our modern world would definitely not gonna punish that lying servant much.... no one is hurt, no evidence that servant has said those things, no witness of the conversation except the testimony from this girl(victim).
But both the girl and the servant know for sure this incident could DEFINITELY have killed her.
But because of modern world, that girl can’t do much to punish the servant.
But if I was that girl, I will get my other subordinates to capture this servant and take them to that landmines place in the midnight. Gonna tie both hand to the back, and gag the mouth so this Insolent servant won’t make a noise.
Order my subordinates to use those big garden scissors to threaten That servant to walk into the landmines area.
.....
Yeah, my motto is, “eyes for an eyes”, “to kill an evil, I shall be more of an evil”, and “I won’t go down alone”.

Do you really think that the maid would have stopped at even attempted murder, and even in modern day times if police find proof of attempted murder the sentence isn't light, sure it's not the death penalty but we are modern folks now, the time she is in isn't, and while i didn't expect death basically in those times slaves/commoners etc were no better than animals to the nobility and in all honesty....hanging was too good for that betch they should have led her smothered in meat out to the beast forest.

Its not about the sentence she got. Its about the message that the common people are animals to nobility even to a modern woman. Are we really okay with such a message. I wouldnt have minded if Chloe showed a bit of sorry because that is how 21st century humans react to archaic punishment. Heck, it would fit great if Chloe was just a normal, non transmigrated duchess. Eg. I watch those court intrigue and dont bat an eye because those were the times. But no, her silence as a 21st century chick just speaks volume that class and status matters to an archaic, unhealthy degree. Even till now, the Thai monarchy abuses lese majeste laws, jailing and punishing anyone that disagrees... or simply dont like. I think mentalities like this is why the geneva convention exist.
The problem with alot of isekai into nobility is the snobbery, elitism and the fantasy of excess that comes with it, but they are manifested in the MC and Male lead and thus disguised as acceptable. It taps into the provider fantasy akin to that of a hostess getting her guest to order the most expensive alcohol or a sugar baby getting her daddy to buy her a luxury brand item or pay for her college in exchange for affection as a product.
"But effa", you would say, "She turned down the Duke when he gave her the jewel set! Thats totally 21st century. Thats totally not like other materialistic shallow plastic surgery girls!"
And that my dear, is exactly the problem. Did it really change anything? What change does it make if she refused one set of jewels when the Duke already provides every lavish thing for her? Im very sure every dress and jewels she wore did not magically materialise out for her. You know what changed? An illusion. With that one insignificant scene, author sets up an us vs them dynamic, assuming that in that scenario, every other woman on the planet is just a shallow materialistic bimbo while Chloe is deserving of all that stuff that... is already given to her. It paints an illusion that by being quirky, you deserve more stuff with minimal effort than the average or struggling person on the streets, making ends meet.
The problem of nobility isekai is it allows you enjoy the romance of excess and opulence without thinking about the morality of it. Not just that, the illusion of being a beacon of morality while doing some questionable opulent crap. I coin the term, Innocent Golddigging. You want the things that any other girl on earth wants, but you also want to look innocent, have the moral high ground and deserving of it while wanting it with minimal effort. So the author adds the Us vs Them mechanics into the midst. With the Them being an imaginary group of shallow bitches in contrast with the minimal effort MC that gets all the public points because she acts like herself and thus is quirky in isekai world. And the more undeservingly normal she is, the more relatable and interesting she is to the average reader. Because she gives us that hope that we can be of some importance just by doing... what we normally do in our day to day lives. We cant end world hunger, we cant end wars, we cant solve the public infrastructure plaguing the city or even the laws for the matter, the max we can do is doing something we can like introducing a tea drinking hobby to impress the nobility or cook for them and fingers crossed they fall in love with you and give you a lavish life. Its highly unlikely that will occur even if Isekai is real and most monarchies are gone cos... inefficiency and hubris. Interesting how Marilyn Monroe deconstructed this pretense in Gentlemen prefers Blondes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHp3OO0DalE
I think isekai and time travel genre is really bringing this Notlikeothergirls fever out in little teen girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HIZAkDbC5g&t=617s
Long story short, just admit that we all want a sugar daddy. Bye.

Suggesting someone to go to a mountain isnt exactly murder... I could suggest you jump off a cliff. Heck, attempted murder isnt just the to kill/harm someone, you have to directly pull through with the plan and actually cause bodily harm, not just suggest and wish it happened. Its like telling you to jaywalk and hoping you die because of it one day because there is a chance of harm. What she did was lying and defamation. Sure that deserve jail time but not death. It is only attempted murder if Chloe gets hurt in the mountain, then that proves the chance of harm to life. For example, the police cannot immediately arrest someone that threatens you if there is no proof of harm done. In fact, even when you are defending yourself from an attacker, there is a limit to how much you can defend.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/self-defense-overview.html
And there is little to none done on the current chloe who had everything thwarted. And thus this retaliation is totally not just. So the only reason why the maid died... is because the nobility abused their status. We just have to thank that you are not in law enforcement or legislation jobs.
Its not about the sentence she got. Its about the message that the common people are animals to nobility even to a modern woman. And you kinda proven my insight that such works just make the bulk of the fans... insensitive and elitist to the commoners. I would have no qualms if she was just an ordinary duchess and thus your "It was that time" argument can work. But she is from the 21st century and she didnt even seem bothered that someone got tortured and squashed like an ant despite only attempted defamation.
So, no she didnt deserve it and Chloe should have felt at least some form of revulsion to her fate.

She said that the maid did too much and even listed the crimes so it was the reason why she didn't feel sorry. Chloe like us focuses heavily on the fact that she tried to have her killed. So YES I'm okay with trash being taken out. I don't care about the class the only thing I care about is the fact that she tried to GRAVELY INJURE/KILL SOMEONE because of a stupid inferiority complex. Why oh why would I not have a problem with her being treated like trash? She knew the area is dangerous she didn't warn them about the dangers, it is intent. I highly doubt they had a system in place for someone with mental issues. She would not have stopped had she not been killed. If someone is coming after my life there's no way in hell i would be feeling any remorse or pity towards them. It's either her or me and I choose me. I don't know what type of life you're living honestly from the way you are talking I'm assuming you live a very peaceful and somewhat easy life so you can have whatever you wanna call it morality, value for human life etc but where I'm from that "kindness/morality" will get you killed. It's not a game out here and my environment has made me think the way I think. If someone comes after your life it's either them or you. There's no law just a fight for survival and what she did is what we call a set up which is cowardly and very frowned upon here. So her getting hanged is light and it's minor and honestly peaceful compared to what would have happened to her here in the 21st century. In the 21st century where I'm from her entire family would have been torture in front of her before they were all slaughtered like pigs so forgive me for standing by what I say. It doesn't matter what Era you're in, in a dog eat dog environment you do what you have to to survive and that's my reality.
Also addressing your comment for the other person she wasn't a commoner she was also a noble woman on the same level as Chloe before Chloe married the Duke.

So because we come from a harsh environment or because we value our life we are immature or 13? I would love to live such a privilege life where safety is more or less guaranteed. Where you can accept or feel pity towards someone who is constantly coming after you or your life. I just don't have it in me to sympathize with a criminal especially not a criminal who came after my life. At the end of the day she is A CRIMINAL who committed a crime, she's not the victim here. She made her choice and she knew what the consequences would be. She could have stopped from her first 2 or 3 attempts failed but she kept going.
Can you please answer my questions I'm about to ask i really want to understand you?
If it were you why would you feel sympathy for someone who has constantly tried to harm you while all you were doing is staying in your own lane? You weren't harsh to the person, you weren't bullying the person nor did you ever have any malicious intent towards the person... You were simply trying to adapt to the new environment you were placed in. You are simply trying to better yourself but someone keeps coming after you. Forget all the petty crimes they actually wanted you dead and tried to have you harm or killed. How can you feel sorry for someone like that when you never did anything to the person or provoked the person in anyway possible?
My environment prevents me from being "a mature adult" so please shed some light since you are a mature adult.

Cuz that's how I was raised. That's the culture I was taught. That even if someone has such malicious intent, I do not have the right to take their lives....even if it's beyond me, I can't simply ignore when a person is hanged when their crimes don't even need that punishment.
Ofc I am no mother Theresa...I feel angry,I want them to suffer....but taking their life? For something like this? That is uncivilised.

You think you are the only one with sufferings? That itself makes you ignorant and narrow minded.
I rather not disclose anything I have been through. Because it's not worth it. But guess what? Just cuz some "planned" to kill me, someone bullied me(when I couldn't take a stand), or someone caused me defamation....how do I call myself human if I gave them death penalty and was content with it that I decided to celebrate it with my lover?

She was not celebrating with her lover she was attending to documents and it's not her that decided the death penalty. Someone was blabbling about the law this and that when it was THE LAW AND THE FIGURES OF AUTHORITY that decided her punishment. I never asked you to disclose your personal experiences I threw a jab back at your jab. You assumed we were immature and 13 years old because of our views based on the environment we were raised in so how can you call me ignorant or get offended when i clapped back to your ignorance or narrow mindedness? Also I genuinely asked you about your views in a comment afterwards because I wanted to know why you think the way you think so that doesn't make me narrow-minded when I'm trying to understand you. I said it before no one is right and no one is wrong. The environment that we are raised in helps shapes us to who we are which is why i wouldn't even bat an eye at someone like her. She crossed a line she shouldn't have and the authorities decided that she should die where I'm from no one would have waited for the authorities or the law that's my reality. I personally would be okay with it the same way how Chloe was okay with it.

Will straight up admit i did not read the entire post here because in the first line you mentioned a 'message' it was sending and i was like...wtf its a comic (plus while i doubt you've had your life targeted you may not feel as '21st century' if someone was trying to kill you) i can't imagine what kind of books/movies/comic etc we'd have if ever single one was only focused on providing the world with it's 'messages' .
Secondly i skipped to your great 'notlikeothergirls' comment because holy crap are you serious...how old are you? cause i've so far never seen a generation that didn't have a 'notlikeothergirls' dream...cause that's what it is, a dream.
LASTLY sugar daddy? that's weirdly rude, i dunno if you've seen rl sugar daddies but they aren't ususally anything like our boy here, secondly you are assuming that i even like men or money, and while i like 2d men i'm not remotely interested in the 3d type and i'm definitely not interested in having some gross old man pay for everything and then sex me up...like feral.
At the end of the day you my good person need a freaking chill pill cause this is a comic and that bitch was koo koo crazy needing an out and tbh i personally think i wouldn't have a whole lot of care for a woman who had no only tried to kill me but constantly made my life a living hell for no reason, don't forget while we only saw her bad actions from the isekaid point of view she had been doing bad things to her since forever.

And which countries follow those conventions? because i find it almost laughable you even mention this here, i mean i don't want to start shaming countries but...child soldiers of multiple countries, the massacre of just about anyone in the Philippines as ordered by the president just because he could, anything that happened in Iraq, basically any country that is communist, i mean come on some of these might not be 'hanging' and 'medieval' but i'm pretty sure modern society trumps this little event by far.
p.s. lets also just mention America has the death penalty among many other countries who are much less selective in there reasons..such as stoning women to death for 'infidelity'

You name these out as if they represent the civilised developed world. Uh no. Just because US has the death penalty doesn't mean Trump can just execute someone that calls out his twitter rants. Sure there are still problems but it is still much much much better than the monarchy time where they can just take it in their hands to have you killed if they just hate you. Also dont bring commies into this when I haven't even mentioned them. They are another extreme scourge. You dont have to care about this manhwa but you cannot refute that Chloe was too okay with the maid dying even though she is from the 21st century. You also cannot refute that the fans wanting the maid to die and wanting to punish all the maids is just regressive elitism and snobbery.
'Secondly i skipped to your great 'notlikeothergirls' comment because holy crap are you serious...how old are you? cause i've so far never seen a generation that didn't have a 'notlikeothergirls' dream...cause that's what it is, a dream.'
The whole Notlikeothergirls isnt a dream. Its a cringefest! It is literally bringing down other women by casting them as imaginary shallow villains while thinking you different because you breathe. I mention that because this manhwa is exactly that. It is the main reason why authors and fans are unsympathetic towards a minor character that is not rich. Because the manhwa has deluded that all Chloe does is good because she is a duchess. Even though the only thing Chloe has been good for is just transmigrating into a body of a duchess just like becoming a sugar baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODADd8viIc
There is an entire subreddit dedicated to reporting that behaviour.
'LASTLY sugar daddy? that's weirdly rude, i dunno if you've seen rl sugar daddies but they aren't ususally anything like our boy here, secondly you are assuming that i even like men or money, and while i like 2d men i'm not remotely interested in the 3d type and i'm definitely not interested in having some gross old man pay for everything and then sex me up...like feral.'
Im not talking about the reality of ugly old sugar daddies. Im talking about the fantasy of a rich, handsome sugar daddy that allows you to act like you dont want anything from them and thus have a moral highground while still lowkey wanting them to lavish you with gifts. Basically, you only see Chloe as the MC because she is written to be seen in a good light only. She is written to reject material things like that is her virtue even though she is already hypocritically drowning in said material things at the expense of the ML. That is why I call it innocent gold digging. The irrational fantasy of being quirky and moral just to attract someone hot and wealthy, when at the end of the day, MC is just like any other girl wanting the same prospect of financial stability. There is nothing wrong with wanting things, but I believe that the isekai shows a really morally snobby side of the community that is in denial of wanting things and yet having the MLs shower their MCs with all the things she can have in the world.
This is always a trend that fans and authors get drunk on in isekai. Its hot guys giving you shit with no regards for the cost, that sells in fiction. La Dolce Vita Adelaide has the duke giving her a proposal made out of jewels, Duchess with an empty soul has the duke funding her entire wedding and buying an entire hotel just for her to get rest, Why are you doing this My Duke has the Duke literally force his wife to use a huge amount of money, Raeliana also the same, Dr Elise at least good because she a doctor, this is just the same and the list goes on. Hot guys giving you shit you dont deserve just because you are quirky, is the fantasy that sells. More than the actual story, most manhwa focuses on the lavish gifting instead, which is why a lot of the times, romance and plot suffers.
What I want to write is, its not just about the death penalty. Its the fact that provider fantasy has really deluded fans to think that Chloe is a moral person for literally driving someone to their death sentence and feeling no remorse as a 21st century woman, just because of that one time she rejected a box of jewelry. What I want to say, is Chloe is just a basic bitch like any other and the only reason why she is MC is because well... she transmigrated into the MC role and the reason why fans like Chloe is because fans can relate wanting to have all these nice fantasy lavish life with minimal effort while in total denial that we are all basic bitches that are totally no different from the maids in this manhwa. So yes. If you feel good about manhwas where hot guys give you lavish gifts, then you have a sugar baby inside of you.

Ah, a better way to summarise. You, by you I mean the fans and the authors, are not rejecting lavish romantic life because you have a philosophical vendetta against materialism. If so you would be someone like a Diogenes. You are rejecting lavish life because you do not have it and have not been given it. Authors reject the lavish life and yet drown their MC in gifts because they cant write well on how the MC earns the lavish life. Thats why its always, I transmigrated into a rich girl stories. Transmigration is not used as a tool for the plot, but a mental crutch for why MC has everything and perfect in everyway from day 1. It is to fantasize about the lavish life through Isekai in order to factor out the need to earn the lavish life realistically and morally, and thus also factor out the morality that comes with abuse of authority in Isekai.

If i 'feel good' about these mangas i have a sugar baby inside of me...are you fucking stupid? I'm sorry but i should have known the moment you mentioned Diogenes in relation to this manga that you are some serious keyboard warrior but to say that enjoying a story equates you to being a certain thing is just stupid, and in this case rude again.
And please forgive me for not at all seeing how Chloe 'drove' the maid to her death...for a necklace? um....did you start reading chapters in...the maid has been after her for ages, chloe didn't target her for taking down but merely was careful of her and she proved without any provocation that she was crazy.
p.s. gonna tape my reply to your other comment here

Ugh seriously not every person wants these things you are assuming we all do, some just like to FANTASIZE ABOUT IT.
since "we aren't all here for realism" also since this is a freaking comic about fake people, fake times, and fake happenings, i really think that getting to a point where you are comparing manga to things involving Diogenes you need a break, sometimes some of us just like someone who is doing bad shit to get punished, I mean at the end of the day i honestly don't see where any of your arguments matter because this is not the real world it's a story and if you are so freaking worried about the impact of stories on the world and youth you should be off championing against Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, Sleeping Beauty etc etc because honestly it's not manga giving young girls bad impressions it's Disney.

I think what exolains it better for you would be what user holly said,
I'm more pressed that we have to look up to Chloe not giving a shit that someone got beaten and hung at one order from her and the many fans here defending that the maid deserved it. I'm no lawyer but neither are anyone here and just justifying archaic punishment just shows how utterly regressive this whole isekai fandom is. It is total Mary Sue BS that we could self insert our mediocre lives into and forget the morality of it all when we are just distracted by the pretty art and lackluster simp romance. Not that I hate isekai, it is brainless entertainment to pass the time, but let's not have a forum that justify abuse of power shall we?
not every person wants these things you are assuming we all do, some just like to FANTASIZE ABOUT IT.
I didnt say everyone wants it. Im saying those who fantasize it, low key wants it. Im saying all isekai fans low key want material things, and thats why authors have these repetitive tropes of rich guy give self insert isekai MCs lavish gifts scene. There is nothing wrong with fantasizing about financial stability and free gifts. However, isekai is guilt free form of luxury indulgence. My main point isnt that isekai is bad. My main point is that, you can wish the maid dead because its your indulgence fantasy hat you have all the power in the world to get rid of enemies you dont like. My main oint is that, you cant defend abuse of power because the only reason why you sympathise and like chloe is because she is an isekai MC and someone you lowkey want to emulate and fantasize of becoming. The only reason why these low effort MCs with bland character traits and romance are so attractive to the fellow reader is because authors exploit the us vs them dynamic and exploit the fans inner denial that we are all equally materialistic for survival. Glorifying the basic low effort rejection of materialism as a crowning achievement of an MC while still choosing her to be a more well to do character in the story that is drowning in all the lavish things is more narcissistic and pretentious and than the struggling maids that the story paints as antagonists worthy of murder. My point is, even if the maid got executed, none of you can justify it. That is about it. Now stop thinking u special just because you dont want an hermes bag or smthg.
championing against Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, Sleeping Beauty etc etc because honestly it's not manga giving young girls bad impressions it's Disney.
Funny because these tales are less self insert and more moral narrative.
Cinderella is about being kind and striving through adversity. She was trapped as a slave and still be true to herself and not give in. The original animation, much much much better than the fake woke live action, literally showed how trapped she was in the visual imagery and yet she never lost or sell out on that human side of her.
Isekai? Just be quirky and pretend you not materialistic and you will be a special snowflake that get the attention of a rich bloke who will gift you everything cos you faking you dont want anything.
"Sleeping Beauty" is that true love can conquer anything in its path. Aurora and Prince Phillip are meant to be together from the moment they lay eyes on each other. They never question their commitment or doubt their passion for the other. Not to mention,in the movie, dragon Maleficent,that cursed her to sleep for eternity, has to be slain in the romantic timeline. It is an outdated concept cos its centuries old tale but it is definitely not self insert. The movie also reinforced love for loves sake when Aurora had to be in an arranged marriage.
This Isekai? the duke literally neglects his wife and was the sole fault that led her to being bullied, so its like, Love at first sight only if you are quirky and fake about materialism? prove your love by beating a maid three hundred times and hanging her? The lack luster romance as well does not make sense and will not happen in reality unless you sucking up to a rich old sugar daddy. Like sure Sleeping beauty is a pretty average concept because its a tale from over hundreds of years old, but isekai, for a modern invention, is just blatant fantasy and indulgence. Might as well wank off to a picture of a mansion with Chris Hemsworth in it and you would have the same effect.
Little mermaid is the closest to Isekai because she gets to go to the human world and get everything she wants just by being strange. And that is why I detest the disney version. It is one of those early works that tried to avoid the super moral but super sad true ending written by HCA and thus inspired the isekai genre. Ariel gets everything she wants after a small conflict that had to be solved by Eric alone because her father gave her a pair of legs even after her actions led to him turning into seaweed. Its entertaining, just like isekai. But there is nothing deep about it, and just like isekai, its morally dubious in its need to be lighthearted and happy for the MC all the fucking time
Just because Disney screwed up doesnt mean Isekai is off the hook. Because Disney is more or less changing their script and their characters have to work for their happy ending. Here we have Isekai drawn this year, that is more indulgent and senseless than movies from decades ago and stories from centuries ago.
Wait...did Letty not get any inheritance?? And what kinda Kingdom is this...is the monarch just a powerless title?? They can't do shit against them nobles....Sheesh.
I know her parents are shit, but they didn't even leave her some money??
Letty in disguise right in another country?