Sorry but I don't understand why this has a high rating
1. The art isn't good, especially the proportions
2. Very unrealistic, who the hell will trust a person so easily and go to their house in heat? Though i can just accept it cause it's manhwa anyway
3. (read up to ep 6) the seme is basically using the uke as replacement. It'd be fine if he fell for him because of any other reason other than he has the scent identical to his deceased husband. Idk if the rest of the chapters will justify that and say "they're different after all bla bla bla)
4. Nothing special, very cliché tropes
I couldn't agree more w ur third point. I can't stop thinking about it that it makes me anxious. I'm fine w the other points tho
it’s fiction get over it not everything has to make sense. people just like the story that’s why it’s rating is high
It doesn't have to follow logic. But it would at least have to have a good plot if not then art for a high rating. But nonetheless its only high bcs only very few ppl have read it.
at first i gave it a 5 star bc yk its kinda cute i kinda like where its going but honestly the highest rating this should get is a 2 star imo.
the plot isn’t good enough for YOU not everyone else, i understand the plot completely and this is a good read. your single opinion isn’t gonna change that
Am I trying to change Ur opinion or something? No. U can read this ugly art and I wont care lmao.
Well done for understanding the plot like everyone else, that wasn't hard....
If for u it's a good read, why would I bother waste my time to convince someone over some mediocre story like dis much less even try to change someones mind who'd like this story. Like I get it some ppl just r into the weird cliche tropes.
My reply was also for stating reasons as to why the rating is high, not to advocate against this.
We understand that you're not too much of a fan of logic. Just say that next time.
i obviously don’t care how much you hate a story with only 7 chapters you can call it ugly and mediocre cos i know 100% you can never do better and your only takes on this is 1 it’s unrealistic, LMAO it’s fiction, 2 bad art, the art isn’t even that bad i know tons of other bls with much worse, and you assuming the seme is using the uke YOU don’t even know that so how you gonna put that in a statement as to why you dislike it when that’s not true. get off the little high horse you have
it has logic not my fault yall to dumb to understand it
and that’s the only thing you can say love it when people don’t have a counter argument
The user above blocked me so this is my reply to you. //
You just replied that "not everything has to make sense" on my original post that says this manhwa is unrealistic. Meaning ,you were acknowledging this manhwa has no logic, and now suddenly, it has logic?
Oh come on now, you just proved my point. You really don't Iike logic.
Ur practically fighting the air like hellooo I didn't even say that, that comment is a whole different user.
Did I say I was good artist? Is that my job? Do I make living off that? Why would that even matter...
Art is subjective until it reaches a threshold of how bad it can be, that's when it's trash.
Wether I can draw or not doesn't change their art is bad lmao.....
Just cause the art isn't bad enough to be considered shit doesn't mean it's still not shit
What high horse? Do u hear urself....Ur acting like I'm making up such grandiose shit up when all im doing is stating what's going on so far.
Like dude come back to me when it's completed to tell me that, did he or did he not approach him just cause his scent was of his hisband.
Ofc u could argue that in future ch there'll be some sort of flashback that will give us the white hair dudes POV. BUT we don't have THAT, THIS is what's happening in the present AND this is what it's basically like for the receiveng end (the other dude)- practically a replacement.
Idk how u can deny that....that was the reason they slept together ... Ur practically reaching and clutching nothing to think that was not how their meeting all began.
you’re so dense
^ And "that’s the only thing you can say , love it when people don’t have a counter argument"
U rly can't keep a consistent argument can u? Always contradicting urself every change u get
Bitch ik u reading this lmao. U blocking me alr shows how narrow minded u are.
I need the official mature pls I need new c*cks on my collection
He literally never had interest in men and now he wants to f*ck only that man suddenly?
Bro get a clue. You like him but you did the unthinkable. (Yes, I finished the novel.)
Although, I'd say he's meant to be gay. No woman could withstand his violent fcking.
Also I'd argue, he's not worse than Ceasar.
What he did is indeed worse, but they're technically enemies still when he did that, he never really understood he liked him until he tried to kill him.
I hate someone who acts like they love you but do nasty sh*t even more.
Also, don't start me on saying he doesn't "love" him. Love rarely feels like fairytale. "So if he love him then why... Blah bla blah" bro they were technically enemies.
The ahole seme with -10000 eq only realized it when he almost killed him the second time.
It's natural to want to do harm to your enemies, just so you know.
Although I still didn't like the ending because I wanna see him become more human after realizing his feelings for TJ. But the author only illustrated the sweet part.
I prefer the character development of Ilay from Passion tbh.
May I know where do you read the novel?
I find it crazy, not to mention dangerous, how many people want to romanticize porn! Specially the dark ones where the MC is literally part of the mafia or an assassin!
"Why can't the authors focus more on the romance than the sex? Not everything is about sex". Uh, it is in PORN! If people don't like it, they should read romance novels or rated PG mangas/manhwas or stick to manhuas which are for the most part heavily censored.
Fr. There was no real romance involved on the r*pe scenes. Zhenya didn't even know himself he had feelings for TJ. Which is a good thing. He r*ped him because they were enemies + his unknown feelings, not because he "loved" him like the usual yaoi plot.
Like u said, it's basically p*rn.
Just a clarification, I wasn't saying r*pe is a good thing. It never was and it'll never be, however, the good thing about it is, they were not romanticized and aren't out Zhenya's "pure love"
No, I get. Didn't think you were condoning rape.
Where can I read the novel?
Saw the raws and is it just me or the art style kinda changed? The coloring got more modern and better, but the shape of Ilay's eyes are different. I liked the older one more. :/
Read the novel and...
It's full of r*pe.
The thought of falling in love with someone who r*ped me is so disgusting. BUT, with how the story developed, I couldn't blame TJ for falling in love with Zhenya. They were each other's match, but they just started sooo bad because of how Zhenya was raised as a person. After all, they were technically enemies, so it just makes sense that Zhenya would want to beat TJ up. I could stomach that, more than someone who claims to love someone and is cheating or physically harming them. Every time Zhenya tries to kill TJ, I feel like puking, but the thing is, he doesn't know his own feelings. He could only express them through seggs.
Overall, I'm not that satisfied with the ending. I want to see Zhenya to become more human. I want hkm to feel the guilt when he hurt TJ before. I want him to see the long term effect of him physically harming TJ and feel guilty, and that guilt will change him gradually. But nope, there's none of that.
The sexual tension was good though and Zhenya's character wasn't just a made up seggs addict psycho just cause the author wants him to be.
Reading this made me automatically think of Roses and Champagne Σ(￣∇￣||)
So frustrating because the story is interesting and appealing fo the eyes too but then it ain't no more my cup of tea sadly (/TДT)/...
Do you perhaps happen to know the ending? Because I think i'm gonna drop this, but I would like if you explained how will they end up!? Together healthily or together toxicly? (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
They're both bad tbh. I read roses and champagne manhwa too, but I haven't read the latest chapters this year. I would say, if Caesar claims to love the uke and do the ahole sh*t in the name of love, I'd say, I hate him more. Zhenya is a straight up psycho who doesn't even know his feelings. He grew up just like that with -761000 EQ.
As for the ending, TJ escaped from Zhenya. He went back to Korea, but Zhenya followed him and surprisingly became an ambassador of Russia in south Korea.
He's still emotionless psycho, but he was listening more to TJ. He doesn't physically harm him anymore, except during seggs where he bites him hard and his hands leave bruises to TJ's body. Overall, he did change, but the thing is, the author only showed the positive part and the sweet part. Like I said, I wanna see how Zhenya feel guilt towards TJ. He tried to kill him like twice, the first one, was kinda understandable cause they're enemies at that time and he was really trynna kill him. The second one was the nauseating one, cause the way TJ struggled was described so vividly . He was so pitiful. He tried to kill him because je couldn't understand why TJ tried to escape several times from his private island. He couldn't understand also why he's annoyed at the thought of TJ leaving, when he, Zhenya himself said he doesn't sleep with the same person twice. But at that point, he had already slept, no, r*ped TJ more than a gazillion times. In short, he was already developing feelings for him, but he doesn't know it because his EQ is even lower than the depths of hell, and he's annoyed that TJ ie leaving him.
In the end, TJ left with Zhenya's sister's help like I said.
Zhenya even got friendly with TJ's mom.i wonder how she would react if she knew what Zhenya did to his son? I mean, since Zhenya became an ambassador, every time he visits her, she is so friendly to him and even scolds TJ for being cold to Zhenya.
TJ also fell in love Zhenya, probably because he's seen the pitiful side of Zhenya. Like I said, they're a match. No one can handle Zhenya. Same with TJ. It's just a pity that Zhenya has a screw loose. It didn't have to be Stockholm syndrome if they had met as real allies. I would say, they would've fallen in love anyway, regardless if they're enemies or allies.
You can ask me if you wanna know more :D
.. If TJ falled for him, I suposose there must be at least one scene where they do it romantically, or with consent? I mean, without Zhenya straightforwardly having to force himself to TJ? Genuinely curious... don't tell me there is non romantic scene!? Are all are all rapy Σ(っ°Д °;)っ??
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Well, I'm so glad he left Zhenya at the end least! That's clearly a happy ending ヾ(☆▽☆)
So sad they weren't in the same team ┗( T﹏T )┛ their relationship might have been a little less messy (?)
Goooosh!! Thank you so much darling (=・ω・=) you literally saved my time!!
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There were some consensual Seggs scenes at the end, where the side stories are (Vol 5)
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Wait, sorry for the misunderstanding, he did leave Zhenya when he escaped from him from Zhenya's private island in Russia, but when Zhenya came to Korea and became the ambassador, they were still sleeping together. So in general, they were still a pair at the end.
Sorry if I couldn't explain it properly.
The ending isn't when TJ escaped from Zhenya, but after that, when Zhenya became the ambassador. That's where he "changed."
Loooool okay dokey!! Thanx youu~♡
Well, I am please that there are some consensual scenes at least !!(￣∇￣")
Omg I just finished the novel and I agree wholeheartedly, like zhenya is a psycho but I feel like how he was established as already cruel it wasn’t a major surprise of what he did (compared to caesar at least bc I had no novel spoilers and I was like ) I genuinely loved how he changed and got ig “softer” with TJ. He’s still fucked and a part of me will always dislike him but hey, if TJ is happy I’m happy
Yeah. Zhenya is literally just a big puppy raised as a an alpha wolf. Bogdanov family is quite eccentric and not exactly the ideal environment for a kid to properly grow. If he and TJ grew uo together, we have 1 less psycho in the world. But alas
The sweet moments make me cringe currently. Can't wait for the revenge part. (⌒▽⌒)
Chapter 13 official has messed up pages. Ty for rearranging, pls!
Zhenya will basically r*pe TJ instead of the old man ing TJ. In the novel, Z even groped TJ after they did it while doing something else else (I forgot but I think he was having a phone call or something?) TJ was almost wasted at that time because the monster Z had just awakened and he was thirsty for TJ the whole time. Btw he also licked TJ's hole, though it's only one of the rare times he did it.
Oh that's when he told him he's Psikh and the truth about the Anastasia.
WHEN???? IN THE NEXT CHAPS??? OMG WTF.