Sigh readers on here don't know how relationships work do they? Only roses in a relationship makes for fake relationships. Do grow up people. Bnaodfbas.
what does Bnaodfbas mean?
If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Gtf outta here with that attitude
Serioualy? Do other readers think that the FL should wait around for her family to plot against her or even kill her just because they want them to date first? And why do they recognize that this is a Chinese manhua but refuse to understand that there are differences between Chinese culture and their own? Then they have the audacity to claim the FL is 'd***' for doing nothing when she did do something while not realizing that by their own 'logic' they called themselves actually 'd***'?
Okay one question. Did the emperor's brother really mean to say your NIECE or did he mean daughter? Because I'm pretty sure he knows the FL is his brother's daughter not his niece. And because no one seemed to find anything unusual about what he said. And because why did he say 'your' instead of 'our' if the emperor's brother meant his niece too instead of his own daughter then? And if he meant his own daughter how did he get around to knowing about all this stuff too? Was he told by the person he had a child with all this stuff so he wrote it down in a diary/journal like his sister-in-law did?
I thought it was the empress who said your niece since the chat bubble was completely round, indicating that someone else not in that panel talking. I get it confusing since the brother was the only one in box.
You're right. The biggest clue should have been how the emperor's brother repeated the word careful in the next bubble. Why would he repeat something he himself said...? I fail.
I just f*cking can't with this dad. He's absolutely f*cking *inhales* *exhales* AWWWWWWEEEEEEESSSSSSSOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even though he's a cheater?
How is he a cheater if the empress agreed to it as she obviously did? And cheating has nothing to do with the kind of *father* you are. So of course I would still say that even IF he was a cheater. I hope you don't say Claude is a good father *if* cheating is actually enough to make you question someone's 'dad credential's. Claude's transgressions DO have something to do with being a father figure after all.
It's obvious the empress agreed to it because of how she was said to have treated the FL's mother kindly despite how she said the woman felt guilty towards her (the guilt clearly being about sleeping with the emperor).
I think an agreement was formed afterwards and although the empress was aware of it I think that it still qualifys as cheating, but she was cool with it cause they don't seem too in love
It would be correct to say that if an agreement was formed afterwards that this would still be considered cheating but *. Even if this is the case though I still don't think this has anything to do with being a bad father. Sh!tty husband yes. But bad father no. (Btw thanks for your very awesome reply!).
*Spoilerish ahead
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From what I've been told Estrella's mother threatened the emperor and it seems that the empress also has her own lovers. So I *think* both she and the emperor had a tacit agreement to turn a blind eye to the other's affairs from the beginning.
My comment about purely being a sh!tty husband if you cheat is based on the fact that it's called cheating whether or not you and your partner have children.
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I'm not saying that he didn't cheat just because he may have been threatened by Estrella's mother. I'm just pointing out that it may not have been, at least entirely, 'willing' (so to speak) cheating. I make a distinction between willing and unwilling cheating because I also make a distinction between criminal and non-criminal rape.
Also, if what I said under the last spoilerish section about the tacit agreement the empress and emperor had upon marrying is true, their relationship resembles other open relationships like swinger relationships.
I do have to avoid reading the second half of the comments, but yeah I do get what your saying and I do agree that he is a good father to his children, but I do believe cheating can effect your children in a way that can be considered bad parenting. I see his children are unaffected by it tho which is most likely because they are aware of the relationship their parents have, or because both parents took the time to explain it to them and make them comfortable. So although I was irked by his unfaithfulness of his parter (which I would never excuse cheating) but nevertheless he seems like a good emperor and father.
True. It can affect them in a way that can be considered bad parenting but as you suggested it is quite clear from the start that the other children were not affected that way. In fact, when you compare the way they treated her before they knew and after they discovered she was their sister, they treat her like a treasure *afterwards* unlike what one would expect in most cases, I do agree.
Um seriously uploaders/translators do not have to show how much they don't understand what homophobia is. Really, truly seriously you don't. It's irritating to see this kind of attitude upheld the most often without people realizing that they're judging fictional characters the exact same way most people judge others in the real world. For one just because I have sex with a woman does not mean I'm not ace. It just means I HAD SEX with a woman. For two rape =/= sex. For three, tsundere =/= a person responding appropriately to fing abuse.
Um the whole point of the downvote a comment is if you don’t agree with it lmao
Its literally just a manga and memes chill tf out seriously
This is way too serious for my small brain, why take mangas so seriously it's just fiction for entertainment.
I shall be on my way now enjoying reading manga.
I read to escape the real world, don't bring the world into my bubble.
Gosh my head hurts. I regret typing this but I thought long and hard to not post. Well, it took 3 minutes but-
I don't see the 'whipped' part that the uploader was talking about?
Dw, it's just slang for how blondie is going "ga-ga" for blue guy ^^
Here we go again with people spouting their fairytale b.s. that a victim has to trust her abuser and do more of the emotional labour than a jackass like this. Oh did you guys think communication is completely neutral? Why do you THINK then that abusers both in real life and fiction can so easily push the blame onto their victim by claiming that they are in the wrong for not telling them things properly? The abuser gaslights (yes, Edgar is gaslighting her peeps) their victim and the victim is always in the wrong no matter what they say and, actually, even if they don't say anything. This forces the victim into the even more untenable position of navigating the temperament of the other party (or employing more emotional labour) while the abuser can just say whatever tf they want in so called 'communication'. And the fact that people are so eager to show how mature (read: childish) they are by claiming that both victims and abusers are in the wrong if they don't talk just reinforces this point. Ew.
Again downvote only if you think abusers should never have to be responsible for anything. Bnaodfba s.
Amen
I would dissagree if this were another comic, but here you are completly right. Like how the hell should she communicate more? The ml is just using her then tossing her asside when she is not needed to relieve his boredom. He is selfish and is convinced that fl is only his friend cos of his power when she is not controlled by him. She did so many things for him yet he do not open up and just let her missunderstand everything, so why should the fl be the one at fault, when she tries but is ignored and made to jump around according to the youngmasters whishes? The ml s story is sad, but there were so many opportunity for him to change and open up but did not. I am dissapointed in him. The minimal changes in him are all thanks to fl s hard work of not screaming at ml for him being a demon instead of a friend, so others should stop hating on fl. She is the reason the ml is not a complete psychopath yet.(￣∇￣")
Fr and are people forgetting what he was originally planning to do to her? Like wth
You made a point.
In addition, I noticed that in fiction it always the girl that takes the role of communication and emotional understanding. It’s always her who has to put extra-effort.
Emotional labor is a real thing that women are expected to bear and even if they are not, they end doing this job anyway because otherwise couples would fall apart and interpersonal relationships would be a mess. Here a def : « the mental activity required to manage or perform the routine tasks necessary for maintaining relationships and ensuring smooth running of a household or process, typically regarded as an unacknowledged burden ». It’s valid for parters, friends and for the professional world.
Concrete examples : Emotional labor often refers to pulling out the feelings of your partner. They may walk around brooding or sulking or upset. They wait for you to try to guess what you can do to make it better, without actually communicating
Back to the subject at hand, I am TIRED of this trope where the female lead has to figure out the male lead because you know they are cold, mysterious and deeply hurting. And this, while he keeps being a douche-bag to her. Most of all I dislike that this process is romanticized. Why the FL basically acting as a psy for an almost stranger is seen as romantic?
Male leads should take the first step at least because the world doesn’t surround around them.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Still can't like Ye Ze. Since he knew that Bai Muzhi's death wasn't accidental but never investigated and he still has never thought about original Yun Xiaoran's circumstances.
Wow people really love innocent people being treated like trash. What a surprise. Not.