I have accepted long ago that this ship never sailed to begin with...i have always shipped rare pairs and til present, it shows. Its a pattern i cant break through.
I remember the time when my heart was filled with hope hope hope with this pair. I feel really bad for lego..theres just no consoling him. He never had a chance. But i want him to be happy. Even if he doesnt get the man that he loves. I want him to be happy.
Expecting a much colder mono, in the succeeding chapters, im gonna miss how fun and childishly manipulative he was..
I fear for when theyre working together again.. lego would certainly be walking on eggshells with him and hes as fragile as one. TvT my poor poor child.
ALSO, WHY ARENT THERE ANY FANFICS OF THIS MANGA IN AO3 OR FF.NET. I NEED THEM
Some consoling mono x lego fanart would be good right about now.
After my exams.. i might have time for it.
Right now i just wanna see lego cry.
He prolly looks cute. XD
I guess i can understand where pre-memory loss mono was.
Id love to bully him. Hahaha
Knew it. Mono was doing those things deliberately. He has always been cunningly smart.
Artist sama, im expecting to see crying Lego in the next chapter please. He cant be trusted to bottle these feelings. Hes hurt and hes just acting tough and it hurts to see him do that to himself. ╥﹏╥
Dont worry my son..i could always draw you and mono together TvT
Actually I was surprised that Mono did all those things on purpose... even though MonoXLego is (obviously) not going to happen (it hurts... hard) I still don’t see MonoXBaron happening. I have the feeling this season is more about « letting go of the past » (for both Mono and Monday).
Still poor Lego
I feel bad for him.
Lets look into the mono-lego history and see where itll take us.
They started as a criminal(lego) and a watcher(mono). Lego uses his freedom as a messenger to go anywhere and offers his services for bad[clandestine missions, trips to the mortal/nether world(cuz he recognizes the blue flower), and lastly ginger's favor where he finally got caught in the act by mono who totally knows what hes been doing and asserts his authority by (groping) ahem. Arresting him on that rooftop and delivering him to trial. Lego's love bloomed at that scene. (Pfft). I guess the tribunal decided to put lego under mono's watch and now works as his lackey with a gps sewn into his backcollar (courtesy of mono). Lego's been obedient since then. Following mono's orders, albeit begrudgingly to deliver boxes out of fear or just to get out of trouble.. or maybe he unconsciously wants to gain mono's favor cuz hes been thinking about his feels a lot in the past few chapters. You can see hes confused tho bout why he cares cuz he prolly doesnt care about anything but himself before(is why he do those illegal jobs for fun or thrill of it as long as it benefits him in some way). Then Lego was almost molested by an incubus and was forced to face the facts that its mono he wants after the incubus morphed into the faces of his past crushes and settling on mono's and before anything happens, lego was saved by mono himself(thanks to the lego tracking system). Shocked by this revelation, he sat it out outside the restroom and moped there for a while about the wth is going on with his life and why mono is suddenly so hot and like a moth to a flame, hes caught. Not long after that, while resting(cause pondering about feels is exhausting yo) suddenly theres the plot device, the aphrodisiac flower that would bring them closer(couldve been more closer) together. Drunk with the heady feels of unwanted arousal, lego rushed to mono's room(affecting ginger-rum otw where they settled in in the restroom) and demanded that he wants him.(cuz apparently mono has a reputation but mono says he never initiated it) lego prolly saw that as his chance to possibly get rid of his feels after doing it with him once, or confirm it(cuz hes in denial or just that dense that he needs more proof that theyre endgame..prolly..hopefully..eh.), but typical mono to humor him.. getting him excited only to callously do his job as his superior to save him from whats ailing him and then brushes him away to the side because baron came in, lego realizing that he has no place in mono's life nor heart in such a harsh and bitter way. (I still dont understand why lilith put that crystal in him..did she pity lego cuz without her intervention, lego wont do anything to close their gap? ) and now...hes forced to listen to his crush talking to his crush about how he had wanted him for centuries regardless that baron is married(prolly) and has a child(mananan), and goodness, i would paint him a masochist for doing that to himself. Lego is certainly hopeful. Hes drawn to him but he cant have him and he knows it. But he fights on cuz thats what he feels. He wants mono. And that tiny hope makes me pity him so much and also love him.
I hope he barges into the room and be like
"Mono, you can have me."
I want to see them together..
But its near impossible, i just hope artist sama heeds my wish TVT my baby must not end up lonely. ╥﹏╥ ill love him lots. Pls just give him to me.
Omg i soo agree I'm so happy when people voice thier thoughts on monoxlego caus their my favorite ship
Mono, dont use lego as a stop gap for baron please...
My baby is too pure for that kind of deceit.. ╥﹏╥
Frfr we have gotten to see all sides of Lego and now he's in love and his love don't want him...or maybe he does we don't know...but i can't take it if Lego gets hurt
RIGHT?! Mono is a..a..puzzle! You dont know whats going on with his head, one moment hes flirty..then hes serious..then hes all about work..then he goes edgy then he just suddenly kisses baron out of past retribution or sumthing or just to rile him up and then i just think hes hurt cuz aside from being rejected by baron and punched, hes frustrated and ugh idk just he feels awful about hinself and then he sees lego, so honest and open about his emotions like literally his emotions show on his face, and monos smart enough surely to see hes enamoured with him and hes just so..vulnerable..and confused about his feelings about why he cares for mono, and mono might just use it for petty revenge like make him feel bad to feel good for himself... or date him on a whim and i just cant see him be hurt TnT
That that suzuki guy is a beast in bed and is just holding back. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
So cute how hopeless a romantic the little brother is tho. Adorable ♡
RIP DJUN by hugs. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Yes pls keep eyeing each other ♡
And hahaha i wish hed flop on the surface of the water after he dove. Hes so cute xD
*Bui intensifies*
I love the determination in his kyoong su's eyes. Once again hes leaving yule, hopefully for good this time... and that nothing will change his mind. Its for his own good TnT
I feel like hes been through so much(countless rapes..kidnappings..bdsm.. insanely manipulative ppl) that i just want him to have a nice peaceful life alone somewhere cuz it seems like theres a chance every person he interacts with is already..or unconsciously cray as well.
Hope you have a nice life kyoongsoo and that yule gets well someday. And gosh. I love how the artist draws glasses. The brother looks so sexy in them ^^
Remember when everyone hated skyler?
Guess every a-hole has a tragic backstory and POV's make you think differently of characters.. i feel bad for him and everyone mainly cuz they got judged too fast and their problems are all connected in some tight convoluted trap of despair that it hurts reading this manga. I hope all goes well.
People were arguing with me that basically Skyler is evil and deserve to be punished. He selfish ect, ect... I
And, I kept telling them they were missing key moments in the plot. Understanding subtleties takes maturity. They should try going beyond their first impression.
Skylar doesn’t deserve the abuse from his mother. She one of those bitter resentful ass mothers who use their kids as a punching bag because not able to be with the father. The fucking disgust but it doesn’t stop the fact of skylar behavior toward his old childhood friend. He still an asshole and mean
His sad backstory doesn't make up for the way he treated Yeonduk. All these problems between them could've been solved if he'd simply talked to him. Instead he made all these assumptions and ran with them. He was an asshole. Maybe he's a misunderstood asshole, but that doesn't make his actions any less infuriating or any more acceptable. Skyler doesn't deserve to be treated like trash by his mother, but Yeonduk also didn't deserve to be treated like trash by Skyler.
Again, no where above did I or the original comment excuse Skyler's behavior (and nor did I excuse his behavior in my past comments).
So, stop making up opinions about ideas neither one of us expressed!
Try focusing on what we actually said instead.
And if you are still confused, just go back to both of our comments and point out where we stated Skyler gets a free pass on everything he did.
What I stated, was that people aren't either good or bad, no one is one dimensional.
Don't just judge his bad behavior, understand why he behaves that way.
If you only focus on the outcome you will miss the root.
What Skyler did to Yeonduk was, in a sense, a bit worse than what his mom was doing to him, because he was paying Yeondok's kindness with mistreatment while there was no love lost between his mother and himself. He ignored the signs that Yeonduk genuinely cared for him and kept mistreating the one person who kept going out of their way every day to ensure his wellbeing and comfort. I don't see Skyler as being over attentive towards his mother and being paid with mistreatment, not in the way he did to Yeonduk.
Anyway, never mind, I was just thinking out loud. I'm not saying any other opinion is wrong.
Sorry that you felt wrongly attacked. You are correct, I read too much into OP's statements and unknowingly went off on a tangent. I still don't agree with bringing up old thoughts that other readers had in the beginning of the comic and trying to guilt them for having those feelings just to vindicate your own feelings from that time. Anyway, I guess that's the point of a discussion thread anyway but those are my thoughts.
I didn't feel attacked.
Secondly, I never guilted anyone. I only asked them to dig deeper. And that had nothing to do with vindication. It was just me giving great tips, that works in reading fictional works and in real life. In fact, they are so great that I am going to repeat them:
1. Go beyond your first impression.
2. People aren't either good or bad, no one is one dimensional.
3. Don't just judge someone's bad behavior, understand why he or she behaves that way.
4. If you only focus on the outcome you will miss the root.
P.S. 1-4 improves critical thinking skills!
So, if you feel guilty do some soul searching to figure out why!
And, yes, this is a discussion thread, and I decided to discuss past comments!
Sorry but um why didn't you say the same thing to the person just below the OP, then, as they were making very similar arguments, just in regards to YEONDUK this time, to the ones made here that you felt attacked the OP and you?
See, it is also YOU who are the ones arguing that we are saying things that we never said. We never SAID that Skyler didn't have his own issues to deal with. All we WERE saying is that that is IRRELEVANT. To then argue against that fact IMPLIES that you DO think the root make a difference to the outcome.
Also, it is a tired method of waiting to see what caused an abuser to act the way he does but immediately condemn the victim. So it was REFRESHING to see people condemn the abuser but wait to see why the victim acted the way he did.
But, strangely, some people don't seem to like those kinds of refreshing ideas. Each to their own, I guess.
I responded to your comment, but many of my statements actually pertain to the things that OP has written, especially since your original comment is not very long. In hindsight, I should've probably split my previous comment up into two and made it clearer what I was addressing.
But I still stand by my comments, whether they pertain to you or not. I have no guilt as I've never made any statements about the characters that I regret. As to whether you guilted anyone you tried to talk to in your conversations in the early days of this webcomic, I wouldn't know as I was not there and my comment was not directed towards those old comments but rather your responses in this thread. Everyone in the comments is looking for gratification of some kind. And I do still think that OP and you were looking for approval that your previous comments were correct and that those who disagreed were wrong. But let's leave that at that as we both obvious disagree on that point and neither of us will budge on it.
And thank you for the critical thinking lesson, but it is not something that I needed to relearn.
Your statement is quite interesting, considering the whole Good vs. Evil debacle on human nature has being going around for years...
I do agree with the idea that there isn't whole
In case you need this explained more simply, the OP below is saying that we should immediately condemn the victim, Yeonduk, without considering what happened in his past while you are falsely accusing U.S. of doing the same to the abuser, Skyler, after all.
Sorry, 'attacked'
As for number 3, ironic as I JUST got finished pointing out most people DON'T judge the bad, they condemn the good, just as the OP below and you, seemingly, did since you falsely accused us of misrepresenting your words when that is actually what YOU did to US. AS I said above. Thx.
Sorry but um why didn't you say the same thing to the person just below the OP, then, as they were making very similar arguments, just in regards to YEONDUK this time, to the ones made here that you felt attacked the OP and you?
No. I didn't. Anonymous. And why you would think that I'd beyond me. Do, do I assume that every "Anonymous: commentioned is you? Does that make sense? Is that logical. I don't know who comment you are talking about but it's not mine and and I not sure what made you pick a random comment out and assume that it's mine.
But, I can find my old comment if needed, and repost them!
Your whole comment started off on the false premise of assuming that a random comment was mine when it wasn't...
Oh, and here is one of my original comments.
Again, I don't know what comment you assumed was mine and why your brain Eben wentry there, but, fine you did, and you were wrong!.
My Old comment:
[Real QuickFebruary 15, 2018 2:17 pm
Before, I was going to explain some more because people are still missing or not understanding some important details, but after this post my life took a negative turn and I had to deal with some serious shit (which I thought I was forever done with)... It's slightly better, and I have free time this morning. So, what the hell...
So, get the plot, don't get the plot, whatever...
But let me point out that his mother is not just deceptive and manipulative (that's a weak assessment and weak wording).
Instead, she is mentally, emotionally, and psychological abusive. And he's been dealing with that all day, everyday since he was a young child.
Since he was a child, his mother has devalued his self-esteem and self-worth and ruined his mental health. He has trust issues and he fails to make real connection with others that are not money or status related, specifically "his sister's status" related.
Everything in his life is a psychological game, he does not know who to trust or if he should trust anyone. So, since he was a child, he's been living in survival mode/do whatever is necessary to get by. And that is hard to deal with as a little child, and all of that affects how you grow up and who you grow up to be.
And no one said this, but I gong to say it anyway: I am not making an excuse for him allowing someone to physical attack someone. He has to take responsibility for that.
Yet, instead of calling people bitches and thinking that that's all that needs to be said, try thinking why someone behaves that way, try internalizing the counterpart's behavior!
But truthfully most of your "analyses" are elementary and shallow. Try going deeper. You will learn a lot from it
And ignore my bad grammar...]
-Exacty/Real Quick
Again, I don't know what comment you assumed was mine and why your brain Eben wentry there, but, fine you did, and you were wrong!.
...my phone's auto-correct is weird...
Your brain went there
Whew. This is a fire storm.
Bringing up past events to induce guilt wasnt what i intented while writing my observation.
It was merely to depict how each of the mangaka's characters have depths waiting to be explored. Not only is our understanding of them superficial but also limited to what the mangaka wants us to "see". So its best to dig a little deeper first before reacting, but eh, wheres the fun in that, id rather see a lively comments section than people holding their tongue. XD But thats what makes the story brilliant cuz if each of the characters would have a POV moment, im certain we'd all feel for them because the mangaka makes them so relatable(by gathering our pity). Reading about the root of their misery and how they deal with it is so captivating that you cant help but think "*enthusiastically* is there more to it? What about this character? Do they have an angsty background too? More plz. "
As i was reading the succeeding comments, i cant help but confirm how some quarrels root from misunderstandings due to quick judgments(and assumptions) about the purpose/meaning of one's inherently innocent opinion. Its like skylar-yeondook all over again, (srsly these two needs a long talk). But yes, Please learn to stop(to control your impulsiveness) and reread. Itll save you and your circle a lotta stress(and unnecessary arguments). ^^
Ill stop now, i sound like a hermit Lmao xD
pigglypoof. What? You and mini_b2013 took their comment way way out of context. Your comments had nothing and I mean nothing to do with what they posted. If you guys stayed on topic with their comments and just had a different opinion from theirs that would be one thing. But you argued against point they did not make. And yes, we all want vindication on here and you pigglypoof want just as bad as Exactly and GoSpark, but learn to take a lose too! Sigh why am I commenting on this thread...?!
Let me try and clear up some things here:
1. Exactly & GoSpark
You are both correct that I read way too much into your original statements and I have already admitted that I was wrong on that front. I obviously need to be more careful when trying to interpret the meaning behind other people's comments. Besides mistakenly thinking that you both supported Skyler's previous behavior, I still stand by most of my comments as they are my true feelings and thoughts about the topics I was discussing. You may exclude them from this thread though as they don't refer to anything either of you have said.
2. Exactly
I have never seen any of your comments besides the ones written in this thread. None of my comments pertain to any comments you've ever made outside of GoSpark's thread. Sorry if that was unclear. One that note, I actually agree with just about everything you've written in the Feb. 15 comment. At the very least, we are in the same school of thought about Skyler's mother and about delving deeper into the mental health aspect of this webcomic.
3. Sara
I've already admitted in a previous post that I misunderstood their original posts as being in defense of Skyler's actions. And I understand that my original comment did not pertain to their original comments. If that wasn't clear before, I hope it is now. I've also never said that I'm somehow above looking for gratification in the comments section. We all enjoy commenting for the affirmation that we are not alone in our thoughts. What I disagree with is bringing up other readers' previous beliefs and throwing it in their faces to make yourself feel that you were "right" in arguments from months ago. I understand that is not what either commenter intended, but that is definitely the feeling I get from their original comments in this thread. Of course this is all based on comments made in THIS thread and only this thread as I've never read or seen any of their comments outside of this thread.
Youre fine, you do not have a fault as youre also entitled to your own opinions and yes please stand by them. ^^
I should just write my comments better next time xD
It does sound a bit passive aggressive but my tone wasnt like that at all more like a passing thought but how would the readers know right?
Have a nice day ovo/
Same to you! I wish you well!
I did not comment to you lastest post.
I didn't feel like.
My last comment was enough and as I agreed with you earlier this is a comment thread and that's what we are currently doing, everyone fairly shared their opinion, nothing more, nothing less (although the time to end it has definitely come for all of us).
My latest comment (yesterday's) was directed at Anonymous.
And I am also satisfied with my response to Anonymous, so I am done commenting to that person too.
But, quickly, I was not seeking vindication because I was not persecuted. So, instead, you sjould have accused me of being a glory hog, but I never wanted vindication.
Stupid phone... Should not sjould...
IT WAS INDEED LIHUAN AND NOT SOMEONE HE USED TO KNOW
(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Im happy for my son. ♡
This manga just..gives off good vibes TvT
Its like yuri on ice all over again. Bless u artist-sama （/TДT)/
╥﹏╥ was so high..only to be brought down...again..
Thank you...i know it was too good to be true..
(But ill check it out >w< thanks for the info!)
It was a long time ago, so don't be sure of that, I don't think he still likes the boy from other manha
When youved lived for so long youre bound to have a lot of issues. Goodness.
This story runs so deep.
...
Im worried about lego losing his screentime. I hope next time i see him, hes doing things to save mono from losing his memories...i doubt hed want mono gone no matter how much he acts flippant about it... hed long for how caring mono once was and hed prefer that version than this colder mono...
And maybe after doing that...he'll let him be and find a new love begrudgingly cuz he knows mono will be happier with baron now that their issues are clearing up and hes self-sacrificing and innocent like that. TnT
Lego darling... （/TДT)/