I have been waiting ao long for this cos they really look like my OTP ongniel you guys should check them out (ong seongwoo and kang daniel) but the art is so pretty i LUv It already
Im also glad that the translator used "Pain on your tushy fly away" instead of butt cos Hetian's way of saying that line is exactly how you would say it to comfort a baby/small child. And Mo crying in his embrace shows how he wants to expose his weaknesses to hetian... oldxian is really amazing, beautiful art and albeit being so short, every chapter is so refreshing (never cliche)
We have this saying in chinese that you dream about what you desire in the day Just came from weibo to comment this
And lmk who will be the uke and seme finally? XD i know this is so trivial n shallow but i rlly am rooting for kon chan to top
Kon is the top judging from the raws.
We all knew he would top when hayakawa imagined his sexy face when the nurse was giving him a blow job ;p
I dont understand why people say that he is an asshole, just try reading everything from the start with the knowledge that the seme doesn't actually know about all the sexual hallucination and you will see how he is just someone with a childish personality who likes to make fun of jinwoo just because he has cute reactions, i mean the things he does to him purposefully arent even that bad. For eg, the 'meaner' things he do like being 1st in his year etc was all because of his mother's expectation and not to spite jinwoo (uke) if you didn't have a biased opinion you would be able to see through the small actions that he actually really cares for jinwoo. He might not even be in love with the uke tbh i think he admires and likes him platonically but not yet romantically, i also think the hallucinations are not actually sangtae thinking about jinwoo, but rather, his sexual desire level. It really doesnt makes sense for him to ve thinking about sex 24/7 yet do so well professionally, well its just all my speculations but u guys have to consider that most of the story is just exaggerated for comedic effect
I don't hate him, but is hard to like him, and it's still annoying if you put yourself in Jinwoo's shoes. Besides, taking the credit for something Jinwoo did all the work for isn't funny(not even in universe), neither is taking a photo of him butt naked and then humiliating him. I'm sure the author will try to make Sangtae's character more sympathetic with his backstory,but at the moment he's still a jerk, comedy or not.
No he didn't took the credit the official workers gave him the credit and it's true he is more capable and sociable and Ma himself told it's very difficult to change people's conception
He could have said something. If he's that capable and reliable, maybe people would believe what he said. And there was no need to rub it on Jinwoo's face.
I disagree entirely... Sure, there're SOME moments where he is just teasing Jinwoo, but those parts aren't the parts that make everyone hate Ma and make it obvious that he's a little bit of a douche. There are moments where he literally just speaks out of spite despite not knowing Jinwoo's condition. There was the part where Jinwoo's boss gave full credit on the project to Ma and Ma rubbed it in Jinwoo's face, etc. As far as him "not knowing about the fantasies", that is a popular excuse, but doesn't change the fact that they ARE still HIS fantasies and they aren't just a minor inconvenience to Jinwoo, they're LITERALLY crippling. Even in real life, if you found out that something of yours, like your dog tearing up your neighbor's yard while you were at work, inconvenienced someone you'd apologize because it is still indirectly your fault. That's what the people who use that argument ignore, their isn't just one type of "fault", indirect fault is a very commonplace thing. Like everyday commonplace. Examples are your animals keeping your neighbors up, your kids knocking things down in the store leaving a mess for the employees, etc. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
But he didn't actually accepts the credit he was given, he doesn't say it directly because if he does he is basically denying aloud that he isn't the character his mother wants him to be, and the coward in him would pretend that he is the perfect person. However, he questions people's praises to him such as when they called him perfect, he laughed at the praise in his mind because he knew for a fact that isn't who he is. He doesn't clarify that he isn't that amazing man because he is too much of a scaredy cat to let his mother's expectations down. I do agree the photo thing is too much but i'm pretty sure it is the comedic part in this comic, seeing how the jinwoo isn't really that affected (if you compare it to real life, do you think anyone would be that calm? It is just how the author pokes fun and makes light of the story) Anyway, he doesn't really do much about the photos, he doesn't spread it nor blackmail (correct me if im wrong)
Hmm about the dog example, i dont think it applies to this the same way, like if you own a dog u have the responsibility to be liabke for what the dog does, however his sexual fantasy isn't something that ma sangtae can ever expect to affect someone. Furthermore, jinwoo was cursed because he vomited on the holy statue thing, i dont think sangtae should need to be held liable for that... i mean, he should feel guilty that jinwoo is suffering becauze of him AFTER he knows about the uncontrolable fantasies but as of now, i don't think it is very reasonable for him to need to reflect since he doesn't jnow what is going on. I still fully agree that he really needs to reflect and make a sincere apology to jinwoo, but as of now i don't find him to be a jerk. I think of him as cowardly, but I still do find him nice,he just needs to stop pretending to be his mother's standard of perfection and be himself
I actually agree, i don't think he should be held liable for the visions until he finds out about them. What i meant is that they are HIS fantasies so he should have to apologize, naturally AFTER he finds out. I disagree that the dog example doesn't fit, i find it to be very similar actually. Think about it, you don't know the damage your dog has done till you get home and your neighbor tells you, you then apologize. Sangtae doesn't know the damage his fantasies are doing, but when Jinwoo tells him he is expected to apologize. As far as him "never expecting the fantasies to give anyone trouble", you don't assume your dog is going to give your neighbors trouble either assuming it isn't a little shit. If your dog is behaved you don't leave the house thinking "man, i hope he doesn't destroy the neighbors yard". The reason i don't like him right now isn't because of the stuff he is UNAWARE of, it's because of the stuff he has said and done to Jinwoo. The fantasies are on the back burner for now. I didn't like how he called Jinwoo his "plaything" to his friends. I didn't like how he talked shit to Jinwoo after their bosses gave all the project credit to Sangtae. I didn't like the very beginning where Sangtae clearly pushed Jinwoo down on purpose and talked shit before offering him a hand up. I didn't like how, each time Jinwoo gets in trouble because of the fantasies, Sangtae always has some SCALDING shit to say to Jinwoo despite not knowing it's his indirect fault. There is a lot to dislike Sangtae over even putting the fantasies aside...
I know everyone is happy with the uodates but there hasn't benn updates on the raws for about a year now so i'm realy worried... this is one of my faves but i have already finished till chapter 30 and there still isn't updates :( i hope its still ongoing... Also, one of my other fave is deadlock (which also havent been updated in a looooong time, can someone let me knownif there are raws anywhere? :'))
It is ongoing! There’s up to chapter like 66 now! You can read here!
https://www.lezhin.com/ko/comic/vampirelibrary
Sadly you have to pay to read the chapters ╥﹏╥
there is also an official english translation?
First of all, i see this anon going to every single comment of people who dislike jiho and talking about black slave - white owner but come on, how is this even the same... the issue here is more of Jiho's self esteem. I do understand that Jiho is born with a smaller frame and physique, but so was Vasco who had been bullied so hard without anyone to help him unlike this ungrateful Jiho. BUT Vasco traind so hard to improve, he did not have complaints, he did not give up after 9 push-ups. Jiho was the one who keeps having negative feelings about others. He thinks that he was born 'not handsome', 'small' and have no friends when in fact so many so called popular people have always been helping him... I am angry at him, angry at the fact that he completely disregards the lives of 2 people (one of them a bully, which you might think 'deserves' but that guy is psycho, he should be placed in jail or a mental institute, and the other, someone who is trying to help you!!!!!!) I'm not mad at the fact that a 'hot body' is gonna die or "prefer hyungsuk in his new body", im mad because jiho wouldn't have known about the fact that hyungsuk had another body, yet he is so willing to kill him and erase his existence without a care in the world. No hesitation, no validation, just downright murder. Rather than comparing to slave-master relationship, it's more like how some people blame naturally skinny people for promoting an unhealthy body image when they were born skinny, just because their existence make some plus-size people feel bad???? (Like the Zendaya issue recently) You get it anon? Feeling you are not up to par doesn't entitles you to eradicate others for self entitlement.
Didn't mean to get this triggered but... out of this manhwa, i realy do hope for people to develop a more healthy mindset. I know some things in this world cannot be changed, there will definitely be people who would compare you to others and make nasty remarks, but you can choose to block out negativity. Not completely, but choose to live happily. A better personality will attract the right people in the long run, ohysica attributes do not.
There's one problem. We don't know yet if hyung suk will still live after his other body got destroyed. Remember, there's a possibility that he'll die for real because his consciousness was transferred there. If he dies consciously at his other body then then other one will die too.
DAYUM the subs catched up so fast, the latest subs are from the latest raws which just came out yesterday???? finally i have a platform to discuss without spoiling anyone
Can someone tell me where do i adopt an ethan? I never knew such a pupply-like daddy existed YUMMY (´ڡ` )
You don't adopt Ethan.
Ethan adopts you.
*get an adopt me sign ready for next chapter*
I read the previos chaps quite some time ago and i almost forgot everything... so what was the thing that heejae did to make jisuh want revenge? Im so confused lollll dont rlly understand what they are saying :/
Exactly! He didn't hurt him that bad that he needs revenge he just need to leave if he doesn't like him
Tip: read it all again.... actually Heejae did something manipulative....
Just read the chapters again
He only hired the uke ex to scare him so what?! The uke knew the seme wasn't all that nice,, he doesn't want to leave him yet he loves and wants to stay with him but he wants to hurt him!!! I mean it is not a big deal and the uke is really irritating..
And that is your opinion.... I am just riding with the flow...
I thought you don't know..... that is why I commented in that flow...
Noticed the split between people that are supportive and the opposite and you are the later....
Maybe it is not a big deal to you but for him (uke) it does... according to what the author build up for his character....
In analyzing Jisuh (uke), he is your timid one but as the chapters progresses you can pinpoint his views of love and also you knew his past. I do think what drive him to be that person is because he do not want to be stepped in again by another manipulative guy. His pride won't allow it, he had is shitty relationship before and became the receiving end, cleaning up the dirt of his ex. Making him wise and an idiot as the same time. Wise that he never got revenge and idiot for being so madly in love and cleaning his mess..
Now, here comes another one, but with a different approach to make him look like a fool again (but Jisuh never knew Heejae loves him or he became transparent). Even with no feelings involves in their relationship, he felt used again for he knew what Heejae really wants of him (before Heejae lost in track). Being used as an entertainment for the other might stem his resentments from the past that Jisuh ended up being like that...
Betrayal is different from not being nice.... in Jisuh's book that is....
He could just confront him and leave as you said but he chose to bite back... it is something that somewhat stupid but for Jisuh that is better than being his former self again, admitting himself for defeat...
I understand what u r saying it is fine if the uke wanted revenge but not like this ,, plus he wanted revenge but also staying with the seme after getting it. I'm sorry this plot is so weird and annoying and I'm definitely dropping the manga
Yes.... when a story does make some sense to you then you better drop it.... I also did that to some mangas, manhwas, manhuas that i have read....
I know you are making fun of me/ being sarcastic,, but to answer you not it doesn’t make since ,, the plot is annoying and stupid and I’m not that interested since the beginning but I guess a person like you,, like these things so good for u ,, continue reading but I don’t care
What??? You are accusing me of mocking you??? Oh my!!! Just where in my sentence did you perceived that I did mock you??? Oh no....
I am just telling you that it is fine because i did it too... simple.... just how did you twist my statement? You have some problem gurl!
Clear your mind and go outside and breath and be in one with your mind.... Just a piece of advice since you are perceiving my statement way out of proportion....
Usually when a story DOSNT make sense u drop it not the other way around,, I'm dropping the story because it's annoying and confusing.
No need to over react honey ,, ok u aren't making fun of me and I misunderstood but let stop this argument it's getting ridiculous