the womens faces look 16 but their bodies look 20 and then theres the dude who looks 10 We need to have a training arc where he gains some muscle atleast. Then again this plot is already so freaky bro, mf fr is the sub
does the westermarck effect just not apply to these nutjobs? Cant imagine my little sister and i finding out we're not related and suddenly dating. Insane
Well, some people may has it :v u don't have to related it with ur real life, just enjoy the insanity
Suu being raped from a young age by men way older was disturbing to read about, nasty ass mothafuckers
Anyway, its really interesting how the relationship between them turned out but calling the genre of this "romance" is insulting to say the least. This manhwa was so much more than that, it dived into the conflicting ambiguous feelings Suu had towards the dragon and the crown prince and that he couldn't abandon the dragon no matter how hard he tried. The vagueness of the relationship between the 3 of them in terms of where they stand as partners was definetly cleared up but at the same time it was unsatisfying and felt like there wasn't a line between them at the end. Both the ML's hurt Suu and its hard to say that the crown prince is the only ML when the dragon played sucha significant role, Suu hurt the both of them as well but it wasn't to the same degree. I understood the reason why Suu was so careless when it came to giving away his body (between the dragon and prince) because of the CSA he went through he probably had this as a coping mechanism of some sort. He just wanted to have someone by his side after loosing so many others. Just wanna say to the Author you a real one ong, this shit was fire
bro i swear on god youre everywhere i go
Im super saiyan when it comes to reding and reviewing
nah fr do you even sleep lol?
i slept 7 hours last night but i got to bed at 4am so i graduated college this year and now im heading to uni so i have a lot of free time until applications start opening
nah i slept at 5am and woke up at 5pm dude i literally need 12 hours of sleep everyday
NAHHHH JITTT TRIPPIN 12VHOURS IF SLEEP? ARE YOU 4
mentally yes psychial appearance and age no
Yoh just be catching all em Z's thats why i cant sleep
LMAO TRUE
waaiit hold on tho i thought he was a virgin tho? see i thought he was getting sa'ed too but then he said i truly really am a virgin tho so idk at this point..?
What no it was so obvious he was lying???
idkk i thought so too!! but then idr what chapter or scene but there was a part where he was like no i really AM a virgin... or was it after they did it for their first time?? omg was iii even fooled ..
maybe a virgin in consensual sex?? He was definitely sexually abused
no ik he fs was, they just got me confused with all the back and forth of the flashbacks showing that and him being like "im a virgin
Anybody have a link to the novel i cant find a translation but i really want to read it since theres only 215 chapters.
i want to know too
I don't think there's any eng translation for the novel I mean there is but it got dropped at chapter 9 and last updated last year
Jo x Ian = a relationship where Jo serves as a light in a dark room and a way to leave the life he's currently living behind.
Tj x Ian = a relationship built on a trauma bond where Tj and Ian rely on each other for a sort of emotional support through sex (?).
I want Joe to be happy but Ian doesn't know what he wants, the only thing that's been made about his desires is that he wants an out from the gang life but his feels towards Taejoon seem so complicated.
did tgat guy bullying yeonwoo? I've been thinking but maybe its more than that, i feel like he might have sexually assaulted him too? That motherfucker lookin 30 at 16 icl
DAMN, SHIT IT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT AND EVEN WORSE
NAH
kinda just started scratching my head after this. should honestly be a psychological with the amount of mindbreaking rape scenes this has
This is mild compared to the novel.... the novel is waaaaay more hardcore than this.
Agreed. I read the novel halfway...
Yea i finished it with the mindset that i needed to know the ending so i could let go.
It took me several days to calm down. Its some pretty heavy psycho stuff.... i was not prepared for it XD
Yeah im definetly not into mindbreak/psychological novels, the art already makes me uncomfortable so
Where can I read the novel?
Someone dropped a link in the comments below
Just search on novelupdate
Thanks found it.
Can this shit end with Yeon-oh being happy with a motherfucker who doesn't treat him like a pocket pussy? Jaehyuk was getting character development and its like he was thinking 'You know i had to double it' when Yeon-oh was getting raped (@Myaa). Dump his goofy ass fr you deserve better gang
I don't understand why the hell the MC haven't moved his family just somewhere else like not into a penthouse but at least a different place the gangsters at any moment can be like fk this and kill his whole family. To me the MC likes the hardships tbh cause it's unrealistic his family in a hut getting attacked and he haven't once push dad to therapy a job, or even plan to move like wth actually help them not indulge. Hopefully he grows up in seeing he actual need to act like the head of his family rather than the check to keep the one light on.
the plot is whats keeping him with yhat weirdo lmao the author designed him to experience hardships and not do anything about it
Ok I'm on season 2 thankfully he gets smarter this read is way better now but the whole season one MC was so childlike it was almost unbelievable he was an adult that was an actor. MC have good development in season 2 so push thru to see progress.
By definition this is shotcon cause it presents tsubaki in a suggestive manner and as an obvious role of attraction (obviously i know). I get that right now its not inherently sexual but the author is being really sleazy with the cover saying "Shota (seme) x Oni (uke)". People wouldnt look over this if it was vice versa because of the heteronormative gender roles between men and women. Its kind of nasty to think this is ok, the author made it very clear by the cover that the kid would be the one putting it in which is nasty to even suggest considering bro is 10 or 11. Reminds me of those cases where female teachers would sleep with younger boys and get off light cause they were women i.e. submissive and always the victim. Yuu is not a pedophile but the relationsjip between him and tsubakimis clearly very inappropriate, it doesnt matter if Yuu doesnt take him seriously, Tsubaki is in grade school and Yuu is going to graduate soon. Boundries are important gang, especially when it comes to little kids.
SAY THAT LOUDER FOR THE ONES AT THE BACKKK this is what i've been saying for ages i'm so glad more people are realising
yeah it's getting weird...i initially read it thinking there'd be a time skip of when tsubaki is in college or sumn but this is getting uncomfortable.
see now if the author did that i could be fine with it but why are they going the pedophile route
Well I think it's fine if a kid has feelings for someone older. I had a huge crush on Shawn Mendes when I was a kid and my friend (in 5th grade) had a crush on a teacher. It's normal and fine kids just see older figures in a different light I really think that's fine. That is as long as the other person doesn't act on it. I think your right yuu isn't a pedo cause he strictly sees tsubaki as a little brother he's honestly just trying to spare tsubakis feelings which I feel is fine cause tsubaki is a kid. Like if a little kid says they want to marry their dad when they grow up. Most people would laugh including the dad cause they know they are a child.
I don't agree with u on one thing tho...I don't really see tsubaki being sexualized...maybe I don't understand something but I haven't seen the author sexualizing him. Tbh I'm just hoping for a timeskip rn...cause the age difference is only like 5 years cause tsubaki is 12. So it's fine for them to get together when tsubaki is of age
im not saying that last part you mentioned, im saying the author is being sexually suggestive about him. Like making it clear what 'position' he would be in on the front cover.
I mean on the front cover all he's doing is leaning on yuus shoulders...I think u may be thinking too much about it. I don't think that's very suggestive at all
this author does sexualise him though it's literally on the cover and they also draw him in pretty provocative (?) outfits. like remember the bunny outfit?? definitely not suitable for a child imo. also i personally would find it kind of gross for them to get together even if they were to get together when they are of age purely because yuu watches tsubaki grow up. i personally find that creepy as hell, but i sort of get your perspective as well
OHH MANN I GUESS YOU DIDNT READ WHAT I WROTE on the cover it says "shota (seme) x oni (uke)" which means their positions in sex
Rather than sexualising him directly they make his outfits suggestive AND cutesy so we cant outright say it, the author isnt as slick as they think LOLOLOL goofy ass
AHAHAH YEAHH literally but at the same time outright writing it on the cover god they are soo shameless. how does this have a 9.4 rating
the art and storyline are interesting and cute, the author is very sutble with the abnormal things in this story but they are there. Its easier to ignore it since the cover is in japanese and the actual manga doesnt directly or openly display predatory behaviours.
The bunny outfit wasn't provocative tho...tbh it was cute it didn't show any inappropriate parts of tsubaki...atleast from my memory. I'm not seeing it. It's also not too wierd cause they are only 5 years apart and are basically childhood friends. Yuu didn't raise tsubaki
5 years is a very big age gap 15 yro and 20 yro? insane.
also about the bunny outfit maybe im remebering it wrongg? ill reread it because im not 100% now if i got it confused with another manga, if i did my bad sorry
5 years isn't that much...I mean my parents are 9 years apart and their perfectly happy. It only becomes a problem when the person is old enough to be your parent...like 25 and 30 isn't a big deal or 17 and 22...it's not that big
These kinds of age gaps are only okay when both paties are above 18. You are desensitised to predatory age gaps, these kinds of things aren't something im qualified to help you with. Speak about these kinds of opinions you have with a therapist i cant change the fact you feel this way about child predators. My dad and my mom are 7 years apart, they met when my mom was 15 and he was 22. She lied about her age and when he find out he continued to engage in a relationship with her. My dad was child predator, I've accepted it but i know that I'll never treat a young girl the way he did, i cant even imagine being with an 11 yro. If your parents are perfectly happy that is ok but it does not change the fact that if one your parents met the other while they were are minor they were a child predator. Being that kind of person was normalised back in the early 2000's which i can understand but it is criminal and immoral. Statutory rape exists for a reason.
Having this kind of mindset is dangerous for the minors around you, i really do hope you seek medical help instead of preying on children. Seeing as you think its okay to do that. Genuinely, i am wishing you the best and i do hope you seek out psychological advice.
They arent 5 ysars apart by the way they are 7 years apart it says it in chapter 2-3. This doesnt justify the 5 year age gap you are sayinb is normal, but i am correcting you.
lmao umm...I'm not a pedo...I'm sorry if I gave u the wrong idea...and even ic it is seven years its still not that much...I'm legit underage myself.... I'm dying omg...also your thinking way to much about this dude. Yes your right a person should be of age I agree with that...which is why I said he ahould be around 17 before I can ship it....17 and 23 still isn't that much. Age isn't as important as you think (again as long as its jot pedophilia and the person ain't old enough to be your parent)
Also my parents met in college. My dad had to take some time off cause his mom was sick and he had to take care of her but then he went back to college and met my mom. Its not that deep. Idky your telling me to seek medical help.
(OK like I'm really not trying to sound mean or start an argument please keep that in mind...just trying to state how I feel though I am kinda bad at that so it might come off wrong)
Anyways yuu doesn't like tsubaki like that so it doesn't matter and again it's fine for a minor go have a crush on someone older cause that's just how kids are. Yuu hasn't made any actions towards tsubaki and is just trying not to hurt his feelings....idk what ur talking about to be honest (no offense)
Also not sure I worded what I wanted to say right I was just shocked u were telling me to seek medical help lmao I'm sorry I laughed
I take people people who think predatory age gaps are normal very seriously lol, shit is insaneee but i know you're a minor now. I take everything you said with a grain of salt now,i feel so embarrassed i wish you wouldve mentioned this from the start i wouldnt have even cared what you said 17 and 23 is insane though, nutty age gap but also their age gap would be 17 and 24 still a predator if that heppened. GOD, i need to stop assuming everyone on this website is an adult since i was 16 (¿) when i got on here. Dumbass move on my part.
I WANNA REFUTE YOUR CLAIMS BUT YOURE SAYING YOURE A KIDDDD, LOVE YOU LITTLE BRO/SIS YOU'LL UNDERSTAND ONCE YOURE OLDER OK
17 isnt really as old as you think females brains fully develope at 25 and for males its in their early 30's. Once youre starting your 20's you'll realise why its weird to look at kids that way but for now just think whatever you want it doesnt really matter you'll change.
EXACTLYY people are forgetting that the maturity gap between a child and a teen is absolutely insane. 5 years isn't a lot ONLY when both of them are adults
it is ILLEGAL for over 18s to do anything sexual with under 18s for a reason. it doesn't matter how "small" the age gap may be, there is a huge maturity gap between even those under 18. even a 14 year old dating a 17 year old is seen as problematic because the difference in brain development and maturity is significant. however if a 20 year old and a 23 year old is dating there is absolutely no problem.
Never said it was okay but it's not like anything sexual happened...the kid just had a wet dream which is normal for puberty. Yuu hasn't thought about him in any inappropriate way
But yeah 18 tho in some countries the age is 16 when someone is considered an adult but whatever doesn't matter 18 sure....once tsubakis 18 I fr think it's fine for them to be together
Lmao I'm 16
But I think u misunderstood something. I am agreeing with u...well for the most part anyway. I'm just saying yuu hasn't done anything wrong and once tsubakis of age they can get together. Other than that I agree with u
i guess but ig would be weird for yuu to develope feelings for him right after he turns 18 or way before he does, i wish there was some even ground here but im not suree
I want it to be like the typical slowburn bl 2ith the childhood friend
Like where they are separated for a few years and see each other again in college or somethin...and the one that always has a crush still has a crush and tries to make the other notice but the other one still sees them as like a Lil brother...I've read something similar tho I forgot the name. And then after some progression the younger one confesses and the older one realizes their feelings are still there and starts noticing them more and makes a decision...I like slowburn
okay yeah i can agree with that i think that would be okay. i think i've read plots like that before as well and they were fine. i just think the entire premise of this manga is so iffy ebcause the author yknow obviously is a shotacon lmaoo but then again dont like dont read ig.