BrokenEchoes May 28, 2024 12:13 am

When he decided to date someone as inexpressive as Mugyeong. It's not right to expect your partner to change who they are and suddenly become all lovey dovey just because you have anxiety/jealousy/obsession issues.

On another note, I really love how the artist draws their expressions, especially when the three of them see each other. It's hilarious.

    Marion May 28, 2024 1:14 pm

    Please never get in a relationship ever

    BrokenEchoes May 28, 2024 1:56 pm
    Please never get in a relationship ever Marion

    Right back atcha, buddy. No one should have to give their whole personality a makeover just to please someone like you.

BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 12:29 am

If the beta had feelings for a paedophile, would that mean the paedophile is better than the omega?

No. Anyone who thinks otherwise is monumentally stupid and clearly effed up in the head.

The omega is going to hurt the beta emotionally when he finds out he was drugged and I honestly hate him for that.

But the alpha hurt the beta physically, emotionally, and mentally, multiple times, and still has the audacity to wonder what he's done wrong. He knotted the beta and pushed into him even more when the beta fainted from all the rape. He doesn't give a crap about the beta being in pain and even dreamed about raping him again recently.

Alpha stans, seriously, what the heck is wrong with you? Get some help.

    Yuko May 25, 2024 12:45 am

    Who's a paedophile????

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 1:39 am
    Who's a paedophile???? Yuko

    Please read my whole post. If the beta had feelings for a random paedophile, would you ship him with a paedophile? No.

    So why ship him with the man who raped him so brutally and held him captive?

    FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS! May 25, 2024 1:42 am

    The omega is a rapist tho. So, how come you conveniently leave that out??

    Yuko May 25, 2024 1:58 am
    Please read my whole post. If the beta had feelings for a random paedophile, would you ship him with a paedophile? No. So why ship him with the man who raped him so brutally and held him captive? BrokenEchoes

    Ahh, okayy. Yeah that's why like I never liked the alpha. The omega isn't any better either, so this story is just doomed since the author is gonna pick from the 2 and not a third route ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Yuko May 25, 2024 2:01 am
    The omega is a rapist tho. So, how come you conveniently leave that out?? FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS!

    I think they were specifically mentioning all the wrong doings of the alpha because of how people were cheering for the alpha. And personally at the end, neither alpha or omega is suited for the beta and not even his own brother is good for the beta's support ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 6:33 am
    The omega is a rapist tho. So, how come you conveniently leave that out?? FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS!

    I didn't. That's why I mentioned the omega hurt him emotionally through the drugging because that lead to a betrayal of his trust and rape. He didn't hold the beta down and physically force/hurt him.

    The alpha has done all that and worse, yet you think it's okay just because the beta has feelings for him and he's going to end up with the beta in the end. It's not okay.

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 6:34 am
    Ahh, okayy. Yeah that's why like I never liked the alpha. The omega isn't any better either, so this story is just doomed since the author is gonna pick from the 2 and not a third route ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Yuko

    It is doomed. Just like the people who defend the alpha .

    Yuko May 25, 2024 9:21 am
    It is doomed. Just like the people who defend the alpha . BrokenEchoes

    Ikr??? Idk why I even come back to read this manhwa anymore ( ̄∇ ̄")

    FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS! May 25, 2024 12:00 pm
    I didn't. That's why I mentioned the omega hurt him emotionally through the drugging because that lead to a betrayal of his trust and rape. He didn't hold the beta down and physically force/hurt him. The alpha ... BrokenEchoes

    RAPE IS RAPE whether you forcefull hold them down or you make them compliant by druggiing. What is wrong with you people putting rape in separate buckets of how many times you rape someone or whether you force them or make them compliant with drugs. RAPE IS RAPE. PERIOD!

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 12:13 pm
    RAPE IS RAPE whether you forcefull hold them down or you make them compliant by druggiing. What is wrong with you people putting rape in separate buckets of how many times you rape someone or whether you force ... FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS!

    No one said drugging rape is not rape. Obviously it is.

    It's also obvious that there are worse forms of rape. Just like cutting off your whole leg is worse than simply cutting off the tip of your finger.

    So how the alpha raped him is far worse than how the omega raped him.

    Is that hard for you to understand?

    FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS! May 25, 2024 12:17 pm
    No one said drugging rape is not rape. Obviously it is. It's also obvious that there are worse forms of rape. Just like cutting off your whole leg is worse than simply cutting off the tip of your finger.So how ... BrokenEchoes

    RAPE IS RAPE. PERIOD.

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 1:15 pm
    RAPE IS RAPE. PERIOD. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SPOILERS!

    So you don't understand. Okay.

BrokenEchoes May 24, 2024 11:46 pm

Some of you don't know the difference between rough consensual sex and rape, and it shows

    Sntoryuu May 25, 2024 12:51 am

    No like fr, it was so unnecessary and out of character of him too. Why did the author feel the need to draw four sides full of rape?

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 1:41 am
    No like fr, it was so unnecessary and out of character of him too. Why did the author feel the need to draw four sides full of rape? Sntoryuu

    No idea. If Sehyuk was just going to rape him in the end, why bother making him hold back throughout the main story? Like what was the whole point of all that?

    Yuna May 25, 2024 5:20 am

    Sorry i meant to like

    BrokenEchoes May 25, 2024 6:25 am
    Sorry i meant to like Yuna

    That's okay

BrokenEchoes May 14, 2024 10:05 pm

In a place where he's supposed to be secretly recording and gathering evidence?

BrokenEchoes May 10, 2024 11:17 pm

He can't think of anything? Anything at all? Really?

    Moon May 11, 2024 1:57 am

    i laughed out loud when he said that

BrokenEchoes May 7, 2024 6:44 am

We need more webtoon artists to realise how sexy consent, respect, and foreplay are.

    mewo May 7, 2024 7:06 am

    wait when was the rape?

    BrokenEchoes May 7, 2024 7:18 am
    wait when was the rape? mewo

    Latest chapter. Uke was saying he can't do it any more. Seme ignored him and forced himself on him, even though the uke wanted to stop. That's rape.

    Evejsjsnsn May 7, 2024 7:42 am
    Latest chapter. Uke was saying he can't do it any more. Seme ignored him and forced himself on him, even though the uke wanted to stop. That's rape. BrokenEchoes

    That’s right! Shit was getting good, but ruined ir

    Mangalover1 May 7, 2024 8:09 am
    Latest chapter. Uke was saying he can't do it any more. Seme ignored him and forced himself on him, even though the uke wanted to stop. That's rape. BrokenEchoes

    Exactly! And the second time he did it without condom...

BrokenEchoes May 6, 2024 5:15 pm

For not saying she likes Yeonwoo ... There's this thing some mature people do. It's called thinking before you answer and taking care not to lie to other people just to make things seem fine. Lying is usually very disrespectful, though most people make it seem like it's nothing.

She clearly likes him but she doesn't seem to know what the feeling is, especially in a romantic sense. It would have been worse if she had told him yes when she wasn't sure if it herself. Some people are naturally not very in touch with their feelings, and there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm sure her past has a lot to do with it too.

I still feel sorry for Yeonwoo, of course. I feel sorry for both of them. But maybe try to hold off on the judgement until you see how she ended up like that in the first place.

    NutMan May 6, 2024 5:57 pm

    She is far from mature to have progressed this far into a relationship without understanding why she's doing it. I actually think this is a case of immaturity, she doesn't understand her actions enough to say the three words that sum up everything she's doing, she doesn't understand or worse, is ignoring the emotional toll not understanding those words mean in a relationship where they matter so much.

    BrokenEchoes May 7, 2024 2:26 am
    She is far from mature to have progressed this far into a relationship without understanding why she's doing it. I actually think this is a case of immaturity, she doesn't understand her actions enough to say t... NutMan

    Lack of knowledge doesn't equal immaturity. I think she felt something for Yeonwoo from the beginning and might have agreed to go out with him to find out what that something was. Not everyone is born emotionally intelligent and those who suffer from trauma often have their ability to understand/process emotions stripped away.

    She's not going to be 100% mature because she is still a child, just like Yeonwoo. Some adults aren't even 100% mature despite their experiences. Why expect so much from a child who's trying her best?

    Bbb May 7, 2024 11:53 pm
    Lack of knowledge doesn't equal immaturity. I think she felt something for Yeonwoo from the beginning and might have agreed to go out with him to find out what that something was. Not everyone is born emotional... BrokenEchoes

    Its not about her lack of emotion, but rhe fact she she is mature enough to say i shoul break all my relation if you want to acting like a alpha bitch in heat , being possessive and all they turning all questions on yeonwooa head , she doesn't do this to other characters. Just want her to do this lack of bullshit with a less traumatize person , doesn't even allow him to come to her home then goes to his home unannounce, everyone has a idea of Right and wrong even if you lack emotions

    BrokenEchoes May 13, 2024 10:13 pm
    Its not about her lack of emotion, but rhe fact she she is mature enough to say i shoul break all my relation if you want to acting like a alpha bitch in heat , being possessive and all they turning all questio... Bbb

    Not entirely sure what you're saying here but it still seems like you're expecting her to be mature about everything even though she's a teenager who is also traumatised. It looks like her trauma started even earlier than Yeonwoo's. At least he had loving parents who took care of him when he was a child and are still there for him. Haesol has no one but her friends.

    There's no such thing as right or wrong when it comes to feelings. Feelings happen and disappear whether you want them to or not.

BrokenEchoes April 26, 2024 11:37 pm

Even the positive ones. That's not easy for everyone, you know . It's awkward and embarrassing. Give poor Mugyeong a break.

The only thing I don't agree with is him answering that guy's calls all the time, especially when text messages are a thing. He's being dumb about that to be fair. But Yohan is way too possessive/clingy. After seven years he should know what his boyfriend's personality is like and shouldn't expect him to change himself just to suit his own needs.

    anabb April 27, 2024 12:03 am

    I do agree Yohan was doing too much, but at the same time, when you’re in a relationship you have to learn to compromise. Feeling embarrassed or awkward over showing your love to your partner is not an excuse to simply not do it. It’s also kinda fucked up to say you’re embarrassed over smth like that when your partner shows you affection all the time. After 7 years of being together, it’s going to get to you, even if it’s subconscious. He even asked him to not hug him so his cologne doesn’t rub off on him I wouldn’t react like Yohan, but I would def be upset and anxious too

    gros batard April 27, 2024 12:10 am

    omg thank you. I love them way too much to see any fault in either of them at this point lmfao they were my first manhwa. I just can’t

    BrokenEchoes April 27, 2024 12:23 am
    I do agree Yohan was doing too much, but at the same time, when you’re in a relationship you have to learn to compromise. Feeling embarrassed or awkward over showing your love to your partner is not an excuse... anabb

    It's not f***ed up to feel awkward or embarrassed by physical or verbal affection at all, or to struggle with showing your feelings. That's just how some people are and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Mugyeong's hasn't been very expressive from the start so Yohan shouldn't expect him to suddenly change his whole personality just because he's in a relationship. That's not loving a person as they truly are. That's loving your idea of them.

    If he wanted someone expressive, he shouldn't have chased Mugyeong and become his boyfriend in the first place with those kinds of expectations.

    BrokenEchoes April 27, 2024 12:26 am
    omg thank you. I love them way too much to see any fault in either of them at this point lmfao they were my first manhwa. I just can’t gros batard

    You're welcome

    Mirage April 27, 2024 1:07 am
    It's not f***ed up to feel awkward or embarrassed by physical or verbal affection at all, or to struggle with showing your feelings. That's just how some people are and there's nothing wrong with that.Mugyeong'... BrokenEchoes

    if we talked in irl relationship, I do get what yohan felt, he's anxious, his partner is not too different from before and after the relationship, heust need to be secured by little affectionate here and there, it's not like he asked for 24/7, at the same time mugyeong should noticed his partner too, that's a relationship, if you did say that yohan shouldn't catch him, it's not going to go up either, as partner we shouldn't be too clingy but at the same time, we had to pay attention too to our partner, from what I see it's yohan the one that worked hard on that, that's why I guess yohan is the real one here, had it been not yohan, mogyeong might hard to find a stable partner if he's like that, who wanted a partner that indifferent to you imo (≧∀≦)

    anabb April 27, 2024 5:24 am
    It's not f***ed up to feel awkward or embarrassed by physical or verbal affection at all, or to struggle with showing your feelings. That's just how some people are and there's nothing wrong with that.Mugyeong'... BrokenEchoes

    Yea sorry I meant more so it’s messed up to not show effort in that department after 7 years of your partner constantly showing that to you

    Your spouse 100% should be accepting you for who you are, but everyone has flaws and I would say that despite it not being a major problem, being non-affectionate after years of being in a relationship is a flaw for someone like Yohan who clearly needs reassurance in some aspect, just like most ppl would in that position. Most ppl wouldn’t react like Yohan ofc, but either way, it’s normal to go out of your way in some manner for the person you love

    For example, someone I know is an introvert and he’s dating a major extrovert, but because he loves her, he goes out of his way to hang out w her and her friends despite him not wanting to. And in return, she decides to stay in w him at other points. It’s balanced like any relationship should be. This one isn’t as balanced. One is affectionate and the other is the complete opposite, not being able to say the words “I love you” out loud confidently. That’s bound to hurt the feelings of your partner when it happens time and time again over the span of years. And Mugyeong’s also been asking him to not leave anything on him that may make ppl assume he’s in a relationship which is another blow to Yohan

    I do wanna make it clear that I’m actually rlly bothered by the way Yohan’s acting and would’ve broken up w him a long ass time ago if I was Mugyeong; being that jealous unnecessarily constantly is actually disturbing and I’ve seen plenty relationships end because of similar reasons. I just wanted to expand on why I think Mugyeong was also fucking up their relationship too

    BrokenEchoes May 6, 2024 5:01 pm
    if we talked in irl relationship, I do get what yohan felt, he's anxious, his partner is not too different from before and after the relationship, heust need to be secured by little affectionate here and there,... Mirage

    Why should anyone expect their partner to be different after being in a relationship? That's a recipe for disaster and why most relationships fail. Being in love and/or loved in return doesn't magically turn you into a whole new person. It's supposed to enhance the person you already are.

    If someone really loved you for who you are, they shouldn't expect you to change just to please them, which is what Yohan is doing.

    Mugyeong is making mistakes but they make sense because it's in line with his personality and how he thinks. He's never shown any signs of disloyalty so it's not his fault that Yohan doesn't trust him. And it's clearly not the first time this has happened.

    And he is paying attention to Yohan. He even bought him bread because he knows he likes it, and lets him do things in bed even if he's awkward. Yohan should be more grateful that he's being so expressive.

    BrokenEchoes May 6, 2024 5:07 pm
    Yea sorry I meant more so it’s messed up to not show effort in that department after 7 years of your partner constantly showing that to youYour spouse 100% should be accepting you for who you are, but everyon... anabb

    Thanks for explaining. Like I mentioned in my last comment to the other person, Mugyeong is making mistakes but they're in line with his personality and how he thinks. He's never shown any signs of disloyalty so it's not his fault Yohan continuously doesn't trust him.

    He pays attention to Yohan in his own way such as by buying him bread because he knows he likes it, and letting him do things in bed even if he's awkward. Yohan should be more grateful that he's being this expressive and tolerating his obsessiveness.

    Mirage May 7, 2024 2:12 pm
    Why should anyone expect their partner to be different after being in a relationship? That's a recipe for disaster and why most relationships fail. Being in love and/or loved in return doesn't magically turn yo... BrokenEchoes

    you see, I'm not talking about mugyeong should change, what he need to is to secured yohan for knewing that yohan is also loved by him, the way I see it, Yohan think he's a FwB by Mugyeong, that's why he always doing here and there, not that I said that Yohan is not wrong, but I do get his insecurity of Mugyeong's action, see that recent chapter, Mugyeong is not having a problem with being leaned by his friend, but he said not to hug him in front of the said lover, who will not feelng sad by that? and once again, I'm not saying yohan is right, the only thing that mugyeong lacked is only to say love, I met several people broke just because the person said they felt awkward to expressed it, that's why once again, I said this is only a manhwa, if irl relationship people like mugyeong won't last long with their partner, but that is if he did it to everyone since yohan is not his first love afterall (●'◡'●)

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