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That’s what I was thinking then I thought, what if the gun had an actual bullet in it then when he didn’t actually get shot then I thought back on the pill thing.

Haha, this story has all paranoid! But in our defense, we know SOMETHING is coming!

Fr the resemblance is crazy

cuz he's homophobic so he choose to settle for the uke female version lol

"future fujoshi's" thats not a good thing at all bro

Why?

And for the record, I'm not a "bro". I'm A woman. A fujoshi, as a matter of fact. And fucking proud of it.

dont act like fujoshis have a good rep now lmao

Again, what the fuck does that mean. Too much of a coward to say what you actually mean? And seen as how you are here reading porn on an illegal website too, are you really in any position to talk shit or pass judgement on others?

I can explain. ;; Fujonshi, or the translation of 'rotten woman' is meant to be an insult. As it's talking about women who find pleasure within gay man.

Now, it's more so an adjective as for the mesning, it mean 'Someone who likes BL' however, due to many of them. Specially young children, it got to the point of fetishizing gay men.

Basically, when you call yourself a Fujonshi, to many due to bais. You're saying 'I fetishize gay men! And I'm a disgusting person who thinks killing stalking is romantic.' because of bias because the majority, not minority. Are like that.

I really don't think calling people, who were fighting for someone right to be themselves really should be called that. But I haven't read the chapter, so no context. ;; but that is an opinion nonetheless.

~ Urah

It was 'rotten women' in the context of their suitability for partnership. It was coined on 2Chan by mysgynistic men to ridicule women who actively enjoyed m/m romance and dub them unfit for marriage.

Aside from that nothing you said is based on anything but opinion and anecdotes.

??? It's the fact that connotation and prejudice caused these actions. When you think of a certain group of people, you get random thoughts. It's why 'Furry' 'DSMP Stan's and 'Fujonshi' the OP asked, 'What the hell is wrong with it.' I awnsered, as nonbiased as i could be. And I even stated my opinion based on what the PO said. ;;

It doesn't change the fact that a majority of people who call themselves Fujonshi do fetishize men. ;;

~ Urah

If I am willing to call myself a fujoshi, it's because I clearly know the meaning of the word. And just like otaku and nerd were originally insults that people now PROUDLY call themselves, so is fujoshi. And frankly this whole "women are fetishizing gay men" is a load of scrap MEN came up because they are not happy to know what it feels like to be treated the same way women have since the beginning of time. It is about sexual preferences. We enjoy watching two men have sex, what's wrong with that? We have the right to like that just as much as men do. The irony is that in my original comment I was celebrating the fact that two girls were fighting for the right of two men being together. And what did men do? Talk crap about my choices and preferences as a Woman. That makes them hypocrites and bigots. 'I'm a disgusting person"!? How the fuck would you feel if anyone said that about gay people!? That is just down right offensive. Just like it is of you to even say that about another group of people just because of our sexual likes. How dare you and the two other people, who are clearly men, who made the other comments.

Bigot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:

Bigot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:

Well said, thank you!

The body is AFAB, and I'm non-binary. ;;

Again; if you want to call yourself that. All power towards you, but it doesn't change the fact of what people think when you call yourself that.

Gay men are talking about being fetished is misogynistic now? ;; misogyny and homophobia are two different things and at times go hand in hand. But nonetheless, they're two separate subjects. People are allowed to complain as both genders have their own issues.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying what you want. It's when you fetishize it, it becomes a problem. As it makes it like you don't see gay men as people, but objects. ;;

I read the context, and I said. I felt like calling them Fujonshi isnt appropriate, and when I got the context. I feel like calling them 'Fujonshi' still tactless because they were fighting for human rights. Not enjoying BL, you called them Fujonshi which caused the misunderstanding.

~ Urah

??????? I'm a bigot for pointing out the reason 'Fujonshi' has a bad rep. I'm really to listen to others opinions. But that doesn't change the fact that, A lot of them. Who are young teens, do fetishize the community because they don't understand.

~ Urah

I don't know where you're getting 'majority' from cause there are no researchers passionate about the feild of Fujonomics that I know of so you couldn't possibly have any statistics on this. These connotations are entierly founded on opinions and anecdotes.

Maybe I should phrase it as the fact of the majority I've seen, which has been My apologies, but doesn't change the fact it's not longer a thing that should be praised because it's now changed as a community.


~ Urah

So you are non binary because you don't want to be "labeled" but you are ok with perpetuating the "bad reputation" of another group? Plenty of people don't believe in non binary or they think that homosexuality is wrong. Does that make them right? Is it ok to disrespect that group of people? "well, everyone thinks that" is such an ignorant answer that shows that you can't think for yourself. Fujoshi was given a bad rep by MEN. Just because some people believe that doesn't mean it's true any more than bigots thinking two men loving each other makes it true.

Nobody is asking to be praised for it, just that you stop constructing stigma around a term based on personal experience. People get dog-piled on this site for saying anything in defense of Fujos but we're supposed to believe they're Satans apostles cause some child said she wants to be a yaoi uke(/lh)?

No? I'm non-binary because I generally, don't see myself as a gender. ;; it's a label, and I'm okay with labelling myself as non-binary. Don't act like you know me.

If people respect the group, than that's fine. Religious freedom is something I believe in, as in many religious it is. If you respect them, and treat them normal and don't argue to them. I don't see an issue. I KNOW, people don't believe in non-binary, but as long as they treat me with respect. It's fine

Again, it's because of the bed rep, like right now. Saying Gay men complaing about this group, is misogynistic. That's why people find the group, bad.

;; I hope I make sense.

~ Urah

Fair point, but I think it depends ON the person. I've seen people be serious about saying Fujonshi is something to be praised about. ;;

The issue about the second part is probably because how Uke/Seme is also seen a fetish terms. ;;

~Urah

I don't know how to get you to understand that these are not real problems.

Fetishizing a community... Isn't a problem? What?

~ Urah

Don't act like I know you? But you KNOW fujoshis are bad because we fetishize gay men? Everyone says it, so it must be true? You know don't know me or every fujoshi out there. I am extremely supportive of the LGBT community. I have been called a dike and a faggot for attending pride rallies and protests even though I'm straight. So this whole '"treat them with respect " argument is BS. I DO treat gay men with respect. And yet here is the very community I have fought for disrespecting me just because I call myself a fujoshi. You don't see yourself as gender, therefore you ARE genderless. And you expect people to respect your nouns. I am a fujoshi but I KNOW I don't fetishize gay men. Therefore I expect people not to insult me or spread misinformation or a "bad reputation" about me and my kind. It's that simple.

Bby, you ATE!! The western had fucked up a lot of Japanese words with their mistranslation and adding bullshit to it but I love how you gave them facts. If they just did some accurate research and not follow a whole bandwagon of ppl who are WRONG, they would know why we’re proud to be fujoshis/fudanshis

there's a whole research paper on it, maybe you should rely on Google once in a while

i aint gon get into this argument but pls dont use slurs you cant reclaim since youre straight. censor them or just say d slur and f slur

that's not a good thing ur actually weird asf and Im a woman as well bro

Whatever you say, bigot. I am done arguing with a bunch of children and bigots who can't be reasoned with.

Thanks!

The fact that I have somehow been made out to be the bad guy in a story where I was actually the victim just proves that people on this site are opposed to straight women being into yaoi, period. you completely ignored the fact that I was at a rally to fight for the rights of the LGBTQ community and honed in right into the bad words. Me saying those words had nothing to do with MY beliefs, it was about telling a story accurately.

You still used slurs lol.

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was that a genuine question?? I thought I was pretty blunt seeing as people in that category dont have a lot of good rep. Any obsession with relationships involving the opposite sex isnt good lol. For your information, I haven't actually read this yet, Im interested since its completed and happened to read your comment. And yes, I do believe I have a position to talk as much shit as I would like :)

talk about baby rage.

First off, not a man! Secondly, are you just invalidating the fact that gay men don't wish to be fetishized simply because they're men?? I have no huge problem with people wanting to watch and read LGBTQ stories while being the opposite sex of the couple, whatever. It's when it spills over that I have a discomfort with it. Third, your not disgusting for enjoying a good manhwa with a gay lead couple who maybe happen to have sex every 5 chapters. Just don't let it spill over into the real world and have expectations for genuine gay men.

And with this comment, I don't have any real issue you with you. Fujoshis are (unfortunately) repped with fetishizing men the same way a man who enjoys yuri is. At the end of the day, people like you won't ever really have a good rep, it will always be deemed weird in some way :/

:(

Thank you for saying that. Knowing that at least one person was willing to even TRY to see it from someone else's perspective without letting prejudice and stigma cloud their judgment is nice. But it makes me sad that the LGBTQ community, who themselves are judged and ridiculed by society as a whole for being weird, out of the norm, abnormal (their words, NOT MINE) is so quick to judge others just because they don't understand us. Someone literally said to me that by calling myself a fujoshi, I had announced to everyone that I was "A disgusting person who fetishizes gay men" A disgusting person, really!? Not very understanding of people who have been called that themselves.

And here I thought, Fujoshi is the other part of Fudanshi. Lol.

What's wrong with it now?

Apparently, we are insensitive, anti LGBTQ freaks who "fetishize" and "dehumanize" gay men. The ironic part is, I just read an article that says fujoshis may be the ones who actually created BL/yaoi. Since there really wasn't any BL available back in the day (2000's), women on chat sites, like 2channel, started shipping male characters from existing work and they started writing their own fan fiction, you know, DJ. But they felt guilty that they were forming relationships between characters whose sexuality were not actually specified in the stories. That is why they gave themselves the self deprecating name "fujoshi". Which at th time actually didnt even mean " rotten girl" it meant something else and was later redefined by shocker, straight men, who didnt approve of women reading porn, much less gay porn. So, to solve the problem of the guilt and supply their needs, female authors started writing original works with the male characters actually being romantically involved. That way fujoshis wouldn't have to imagine characters being together and feeling guilty for it. Then BL started gaining tons of popularity and made it's way into main stream. The irony is that clearly, yaoi was written BY women, specifically self proclaimed fujoshis no less, FOR women. So anyone on this site or anywhere who has a problem with fujoshis, needs to either get over it because they have fujoshis to thank for having BL/yaoi at all or they need to stop being hypocrites and stop reading yaoi.

DAMN, STOP EATING THEM UP UGHHHH （/TДT)/

Haha. I'm not even aware of the other meaning of it. And I also saw other people commenting and calling themselves that but I don't see anyone reprimanding them that it's a bad name.

Because they aren't over speaking about gay men and not using slurs.

~ Urah

What's with the long asssss comments here abt fujoshis and fudanshis??! Demn MGG's comment section should really be shut off for good bec of toxic ppl who take their righteousness, morals and serious topics to an illegal site that publishes FICTION.

Fujoshis/fudanshis are just men/women who enjoys READING BL manga/manwha/novels. They are just fanatics of this genre just as like how others are into romance, sci-fi etc. That's just all no more no less. The bad rep comes from just people who dont understand/against people who read this and assumes that just bec they(we) are into this genre we fetishize/dehumanise gay relationships. Obviously, there are some that when they are ignorant or they dont want it, they say something negative abt it. iygwim.

She just made a simple comment then you just make a big fuss abt it.

If you dont want to be coined as "fujoshi" or "fudanshi" then dont be, there's no need to be butt hurt or twisting facts just to make point. But still it wouldnt change what it REALLY MEANS.

This comment !!!

On top*

Again, I'd like to reiterate i thought op was ASKING an actual question. The op, not anyone else in this comment section CALLED A GAY MAN MISOGYNISTIC OVER NOT LIKING THE COMMUNITY FOR FETISHIZING THE PEOPLE. Not to mention the OP used SLURS THEY CANNOT RECLAIM.

The original comment IS NOT THE ISSUE. It's how the op is behavior. Which we called out here.

https://www.mangago.zone/thing/about/686808/

AND HER DEFENDING THE ACTION OF A SLUR AND OVER SPEAKING https://www.mangago.zone/thing/about/686777/

THATS THE PROBLEM. NOT THE WORD.

Marigold.

Agree with you, looking forward to the official translated version and purchase them

Lol yeah that was a lil extreme with the dinners everyday but for the plot I agree!There's some lonely ass bosses out there some of them seem like they don't have friends and don't want the fun of all the coworkers around them to end. the closest I've had to this was one month we had a company bbq, then a company dinner, then a "volunteer" too clean the beach and have a picnic after. Free food but didn't all count as paid time u nu wish they thought of liability thing and cancelled our dinners I feel taegyeoms corporate pain

I've got to ask, did you read the chapter properly? They were friends with benefits, not boyfriend and girlfriend. Seme also hadn't seen her since he started fake-dating the uke. They also didn't do anything in the hotel, he only met with her to tell her that they wouldn't be seeing each other again.

The seme tells the girl "let's stop seeing each other". He didn't say let's stop hooking up or being friends with benefits. And the only reason why they hadn't seen each other after the seme started the fake relationship, is because both the seme and the girl have been busy working. So technically he was still with her when he started the fake relationship with uke and he himself said they were not allowed to see anyone. Plus in a different chapter when the uke asked him if he was still seeing the woman who used to sponsor him, he said he wasn't seeing anyone.

I've got to ask, did you see chapter 35 which was added today,? The seme admitted to the uke that he was seeing someone while in the fake relationship with him but he ended it. So I did read the previous chapter correctly.

Yes I saw it, but you're saying he was cheating, but he never did. He hadn't broken the fwb off with her, but he hadn't seen her while he was with uke except for that last time to break it off.
Sorry if it was misunderstood, that's what I meant, that he wasn't cheating and he hadn't been with her since he started with uke.

Well i mean, that's like saying it's not cheating if it's in a different area code . . . just because they hadn't seen each in a while or slept together in a while because of work doesn't mean they were not together. She didn't know that the seme was sleeping with someone else and the uke didn't know he was seeing someone so he technically was cheating on both of them. He should have broken it off with the girl as soon as he started the fake relationship with the uke. BTW, they were more than fwb. He especially said "seeing each other". That is definitely above fwb.

It still doesn’t mean he was cheating on anyone. The only one to be confirmed cheating was the girl who admitted she was meeting with him while she had a bf. “Seeing each other” is a very general saying that can have multiple categories under it. It can be used for cutting off friendship, relationships, fwb, etc. I’ve seen the line, “let’s stop seeing each other,” in thousands of stories, including when characters cut off fwb. You gotta understand that the phrasing “seeing someone” does not automatically mean it’s an official relationship. It doesn’t need to be spelled out explicitly like “let’s stop fucking each other.” For anyone to get the point. You’re the only one who really misunderstood his words. Whether what the Seme did was wrong or not- TECHNICALLY, he didn’t cheat on anyone like you assumed. If he was really dating the girl, I’m sure she would’ve been more upset but she was chill with it. Showing that they weren’t dating at all. Anyways, I’m not saying the Seme is a good guy or innocent- just saying you were incorrect that he cheated on anyone.

The fact that the girl was sleeping with the seme while she had a bfjust proves that she is not into monogamy and that is why she was "chill" with the seme sleeping with someone else while they were seeing each other. And again, he told the uke that neither of them were allowed to "see" anyone else while they carried out their fake relationship. And whatever context "seeing each other" carries here, he himself admitted to the uke in chapter 35 that he had been "seeing" someone but he broke it off with them. That IS cheating,

Plus it seems to me like 25 other people agreed with me, so clearly I'm not "the only one who misunderstood". Bottom line is he lied to the uke about being exclusive with him in any way shape or form and that is cheating no matter how you look at it. And then has the nerve to get mad and jealous about the uke's friend.

I do not consider it cheating if it’s a contractual relationship and they didn’t cut the contract off. They aren’t in an official relationship and last I checked neither of them confessed yet. Like I said- I’m not discussing what the Seme did was wrong or right, just confirming BY DEFINITION cheating was incorrect. I also don’t care about your likes, just shows the amount of people who also misunderstood unfortunately. You’re correct that he did basically did not cut off the fwb connection but at the same time he’s WAS TECHNICALLY truthful that he hasn’t physically seen or done anything with anyone else since he had gotten into this contractual relationship with the Uke. He likely was not planning to see anyone and did confirm that he didn’t continue or see anyone while he was with him despite keeping the contact. It was basically like ghosting someone but not putting in the effort to go out of their way to confirm the fwb is over until later.
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Anyways the friend is no better than the Seme if you’re in defense of him. As well as the fact that it’s odd that if you hate the Seme so much, why are you here continuing to read the updates every time it comes out? I could never continue a story where I hate one of the leads. You know now that there’s a 99.9% chance they will end up together.

The contract didn't call for them to sleep together. The seme chose to take it to that PERSONAL level so saying they are not in a relationship is just an excuse a douche bag would use to justify cheating. As for the FWB issue. The seme told the uke he is not allowed to "see" or sleep with anyone else and that he wouldn't either because it they got caught, the public would think they were "cheating". The uke agreed as part of the contract. But then the seme blurred the line between work and personal and feelings have clearly been developed on either side. I don't know about you, but I would be super pissed, both professionally and emotionally if I found that my supposed partner who insisted we be exclusive had a FWB on the side just because they don't think that technically counts as " seeing someone ". Again, an excuse a douche bag would use to justify cheating. And just because two people haven't seen each other or had sex in a while, doesn't mean they are not together. Like the girl clearly stated, they were both busy working. If they were not together or seeing each other, they wouldn't have needed to " break things off", now would they? And I never said I didn't like the seme, he is mainly a good guy. He did something wrong and I "called him out on it" like I would anyone else, real or fictional. That is why I keep reading the story.

(not in general, I'm only talking about this situation) At first I also thought it was cheating but there's no ACTUAL romantic relationship that being hurt thou, ml is not in a relationship (EXCLUSIVE ROMANTIC RS) with anyone even with the mc. I don't really remember the rules of mc and ml's relationship contract but it seems like it was not stated that they need to be exclusive to each other, even if he had sex with the girl in that scene it's not considered as cheating (but I would feel bad as a reader lol) because he and mc hasn't establish a formal dating relationship yet. If it was stated in the contract and he breaks it, technically he's not cheating on the mc BUT on the company lol.

But mc and ml already had sex with each other and it seems like they are catching feelings. Again, they haven't establish their formal romantic real relationship.

In the girl's case it's very obvious that they are not in a romantic relationship, they are not bfs and gfs (at least to me) it seems like they only see each other for fun and lust and the girl mentioned that he's okay with ml's fake relationship with mc indicating that she's okay if ml if fucking other people aside from her.

And the fact that he has a rumor going around about him fucking the pretty sugar momma (I hope she's just a disposable character, I don't want her to be a problem in the future ughhh) I bet the girl's aware of it and still okay being f buddies with the ml.

It's not cheating if they haven't talk about it and establish a rules and boundaries that a couple would have.

Everyone keeps talking about "technically" this and technically that and contractual. But the relationship between them has gone far beyond that at this point. At one point, in an early chapter, the seme is at a restaurant with a blond guy and they are talking about the fake relationship with the uke. The seme says he would like it to be personal too. And he made petsonal , alright. He slept with the uke and he keeps getting all jealous and possessive of him. So in a way, it is cheating. The seme can't have it both ways. He doesn't get to act like it is a fake, professional relationship where he gets to see people on the side if he wants, but then try to get in between the uke and his friend because his friend likes the uke. Then has the nerve to get mad at the uke for kissing someone else.

We says it's technically not cheating because it is not, their relationship is based on contract set by the company not their love for each other. It's still not cheating if they're not in romantic real relationship and hasn't talk about their rules and boundaries OR if one hasn't break the rules of the contractual relationship (breach of contract).

Even if he wants it to be personal or if it gone far beyond the contract (they had sex and starting to catching feelings for each other), if they haven't make it official or again set rules and boundaries.

Yes he can't have it both ways but there's still no cheating happen even if he gets jealous THEY ARE NOT IN REAL RELATIONSHIP. Yes their feelings would be hurt that's why they have to make it official and talk about it so they can set rules and boundaries as an OFFICIAL couple and when they start dating as a real couple then the ml happen to had sex or whatever (not exclusive to sex) with other people without his partner's consent and approval that's where actually cheating happen,

If I have someone I had a crush with and this someone has similar feelings to me but we are not dating then I suddenly saw this someone kissing other people it is still not cheating because we're not dating, they're just leading me on and they're s an asshole for that.

If I was in a contractual relationship with someone, we fucked, we kiss, we tell sweet words to each other then suddenly I catch them fucking other people it's still not cheating AS LONG AS there's no rules that being broken in the contract BUT if we had it in our contract that we must not see other people then they break it then that's were we consider it cheating.

Can’t believe you actually managed to make this’s even weirder xD

sound complicated than dad and son

Complicated is my super power

You made out an reasoning question I m always bad at it. But kinda make sense