nilsuki May 20, 2020 5:01 pm

İ read this for the pink haired seme’s character design and the memes ;-;

nilsuki May 18, 2020 10:28 pm

İm seeing the alert sign all over the place there İS GOİNG TO BE sometjing that İS HORRİBLY WRONG but İDK WHAT THAT İS/WİLL BE SO İM ANXİOUS AS FRİCK

nilsuki May 18, 2020 10:01 pm

İM CRİYNG FUCKK NO İM NOT CRYŞNG YII ARE SHUFLCUFC

nilsuki May 15, 2020 7:23 pm

*starts singing God’s plan in the bg*

But that build up was so good, although i had a few issues with the final confession scene and niel kinda lowkey being a hypocrite by telling jensen to forget about it and then bringing it back up, but i still like the ending and im happy niel patched things up with eugene again !! The family picture caught me in the feels, they rly are a big fam

nilsuki May 11, 2020 12:28 pm

Damn i actually teared up. İ dont even know where to start but the facial expressions everyone had and the fact that the trio is still together and giyuu did not lose someone again makes me both happy and melancholic..... ahhh i guess this is the end huh

nilsuki May 10, 2020 6:23 am

Do yall know where i can buy the official hard copies for this? Thanks im advance

nilsuki May 10, 2020 5:47 am

I think people who brand this as another “rape fantasy yaoi” are kind of missing the point. I wont comment anything about the sexual aspects of it but I think theres a heavier emphasis on the theme of breaking of “given roles.” İts just that the setting is fucked up and would not work out irl but thats why its fiction. İts even listed as psychological if im not mistaken. And this manga at least has minor character developments and isnt just a porno fantasy thing. People may have different intentions while reading it (personally i like it because i also enjoy the main protagonist’s cockyness/strength perhaps?? and want to know how things are going to end) but İ think the author wanted this to be way more than just a “oh another rape scenario in yaoi”

    nilsuki May 10, 2020 5:50 am

    And i guess each to their own ?? (İs that the right term idk haha) but even if people do point out the bad sides of it İ doubt itll do much other than overtake the comment section. Everyone knows that thats what is happening and you are right about your concerns but thats not really going to convince many people...? İm still going to read it you know, and no İ dont support such a consent lacking act at all.

    Lula5911 May 10, 2020 6:47 am
    And i guess each to their own ?? (İs that the right term idk haha) but even if people do point out the bad sides of it İ doubt itll do much other than overtake the comment section. Everyone knows that thats w... nilsuki

    Well said

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:41 am

    It doesn't change the fact that it's poorly written.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:43 am

    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for porn and smut purpose. Let's not add unnecessary double meaning to them.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:24 am
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    Thank You I thought about rereading after I fell off from reading a few years back and I suppose I’m the only catching the direct “women are weak” spiel. It’s gross and pathetic when yaoi stories that are supposed to only involve men somehow find a way to demean women. Not to mention the pure vulgar toxicity of it. It honestly should have just been smut instead of feigning to be some deep, psychological thriller.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:34 am
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    It does feel like she wanted to write psychological but failed. She’s caught between wanting to write something dark and psychological but the Yaoi bits which demand a happy ending (“couple” together) prevents her from reaching that. If she dared to not have them be together and to not push the “love” angle and actually had Azusa attempt revenge savagely this could be good. A lord of the flies scenario. But since she insists on Yaoi “love” that’s kinda impossible. Wasted potential.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 9:45 am
    It does feel like she wanted to write psychological but failed. She’s caught between wanting to write something dark and psychological but the Yaoi bits which demand a happy ending (“couple” together) pre... @Anonymous

    Exactly! These people don't won't dark and twisted. Not really, they pressure the author for "happy" ending which means seppuku for any dark themes and realistic writting.
    The revenge could have been savage. Karino's downfall could have been also so dark and good.
    But nope. Yaoi logic.

    Goryfantasy22 May 10, 2020 3:31 pm
    Exactly! These people don't won't dark and twisted. Not really, they pressure the author for "happy" ending which means seppuku for any dark themes and realistic writting.The revenge could have been savage. Kar... @Anonymous

    you know the story isn't finished yet lol

    lgbtanimes May 10, 2020 3:42 pm
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    LMFAO why does it sound like one person writing the same shit

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 5:05 pm
    LMFAO why does it sound like one person writing the same shit lgbtanimes

    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 7:34 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    I looked through your comments. The one who is spamming this comment section is you.(For years now.). Also attacking ekchem making discussion with nearly everyone who had the audacity to not like the story and criticised some parts of it. Yawn
    And I've never answered my own posts. Live in delusion. Probably I also made all the accounts which started criticise the story and it's plot. And I use different level of English each time.
    Live in your bubble

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 7:51 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    Oh and one more thing. Yeah I've written few posts. Although I've never answered myself as you accused me etc. But who cares. You know why people start to "troll". Because we can't stand "purified" comment sections and people like you who try to keep it that way. Although you are not the worst. But on this site people love personal attacks, threats. Oh the lovely times when comment could have been deleted by dislikes. In some comment sections only one opinion was the right one, one ship was the right one. Others were deleted and there was a real witch haunting. But when some of us see ignorance as people pretending rape is not rape because victim physically felt some pleasure, justifying rape, saying that someone deserves being raped, gang rape because he was mean in the past and that the biggest punishment for the serial rapist you can come with is losing Azusa FOR SOME TIME, just to get him back not long later... Sorry some of us can't stand such ignorance. And then you can make the whole essay with good arguments but then after your post there is another just above yours how Azusa deserved it all and he was shitty but op hopes he will have lovey dovey with Karino. I'm lost for words.

    Or people treating the story as some masterpiece. They have the right but let people express freely why they don't think it's such a good story.

    But I'm not gonna waste my time any longer (today I was barely there). I can't save the world and change people's mind about basic things like definition of rape... If people who don't care.

    Have a good day.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:14 pm
    Because it is lol, the person keeps writing constant hate in the comments. Typical troll. Butterflyinwinter

    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.
    And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally about the comment section and examples of some diamonds.

    And one more thing. I used to be like you and other people... the users who tried to make some points, point flaws etc... I mocked them, used manipulation, choosing parts that matched my narrative etc. Others love me and I got much approval. But with time I noticed these people were right. The ignorance on this site is disturbing. And it's not only among teens. People in their 20s, 30s use some not existing deviations of rape and sexual assaults, victim blaming, hating on characters just because they came between their lovely ships, saying that someone completely drunk or on drugs can give valid consent, who don't understand what coercion is... It's worrisome. I know it's not the place to educate anyone... But when you see that adult people don't understand such things.... It's better to educate them here... Then them living with such views irl. They can hurt someone on get hurt by their ignorance.

    That's all. Once again have a good day.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:26 pm
    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally abou... @Anonymous

    Definitions of rape*

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:26 pm
    I looked through your comments. The one who is spamming this comment section is you.(For years now.). Also attacking ekchem making discussion with nearly everyone who had the audacity to not like the story and ... @Anonymous

    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:29 pm
    And lmfao I never used offending words etc or made fun of anyone. I always try to stay civil in my posts. And I wouldn't call my posts constant hate.And to be clear in earlier post I was writting generally abou... @Anonymous

    Your English is poor Hon.
    I can find more mistakes.

    Biss May 10, 2020 8:30 pm
    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone. Butterflyinwinter

    Don't waste time on such trolls. You will see they are going to come back tomorrow.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:33 pm
    I give info about the story I really like lol not attack people about liking a certain character , grow up and leave the fans of this story alone. Butterflyinwinter

    Did I attack anyone? Show me? Not you are just making things out of thin air. You can like Karino all you want but you have to admit he is a rapist. Serial one. Not making excuses. And should face some consequences. Even for his own good.
    But whatever it's talking to the wall.

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:34 pm
    Oh and one more thing. Yeah I've written few posts. Although I've never answered myself as you accused me etc. But who cares. You know why people start to "troll". Because we can't stand "purified" comment sect... @Anonymous

    You think we don't know what rape is? If something like this was happening in real life do you really think no one would react? This is a story. And only a story. These characters aren't real. Ogawa Chise writes dark psychological manga. If you don't like it don't read it. That's all.
    Have a great life and release your anger somewhere else.

    Butterflyinwinter May 10, 2020 8:36 pm
    Don't waste time on such trolls. You will see they are going to come back tomorrow. Biss

    You're right. I just can't with people like this...

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:49 pm
    You think we don't know what rape is? If something like this was happening in real life do you really think no one would react? This is a story. And only a story. These characters aren't real. Ogawa Chise write... Butterflyinwinter

    People, maaaaany people on this site over and over again use biased definitions of rape. Say that something is not rape because victims enjoyed that. That if someone said stop in the middle they are obligated to continue. That sex with someone who is passing out because they are so drunk, on drugs isn't rape.
    That Azusa deserved rapes and everything because he was mean... But the real rapist as punishment should lose Azusa's trust for few weeks and get him back after that and live as if nothing happened. Just wtf. Don't you see something illogical in this way of thinking?
    Characters aren't real but issues they face ARE. They shouldn't be underestimated.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:49 pm
    Don't waste time on such trolls. You will see they are going to come back tomorrow. Biss

    I'm not ... But ok.

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 8:50 pm
    You're right. I just can't with people like this... Butterflyinwinter

    I didn't write today even a one opening post. But you probably think I created every one of them and maybe made few accounts. Facepalm.

    lgbtanimes May 10, 2020 9:28 pm
    Oh and one more thing. Yeah I've written few posts. Although I've never answered myself as you accused me etc. But who cares. You know why people start to "troll". Because we can't stand "purified" comment sect... @Anonymous

    who gonna read your MLA ass essay butt hurt weirdo

    Anonymous May 10, 2020 10:01 pm
    who gonna read your MLA ass essay butt hurt weirdo lgbtanimes

    Sweet. You just show your standard and level with such reply. I never lower myself to offending anyone. It's just in poor taste.

    Megaz May 11, 2020 3:35 am
    Sweet. You just show your standard and level with such reply. I never lower myself to offending anyone. It's just in poor taste. @Anonymous

    I'm sorry, but you're so cute, thinking your constant trolling and criticism is making a difference.
    I'm honestly laughing XD

    Anonymous May 11, 2020 6:33 am
    I'm sorry, but you're so cute, thinking your constant trolling and criticism is making a difference. I'm honestly laughing XD Megaz

    If for you making 3 opening post and discussing with fee people under their own posts is constant trolling then I don't the know. But you are just another fujoshi (your post about people complaining about rape itself) who makes things out of thin air. I have seen it billion times before. Example: PotN. Someone complained about whatever. For example why people give so much credit to Seungho but exaggerate Inhun's faults. Such poet is of course questionable. I'm not gonna say if I agree or disagree. But after such post I see another crying that people who are still complaining about rape should fuck off. I had to go through 10 pages. No one complained about rape. Rape was just an example of Seungho's "wrondoings"in that post which compare Inhun and Seungho.

    Megaz May 11, 2020 8:47 am
    If for you making 3 opening post and discussing with fee people under their own posts is constant trolling then I don't the know. But you are just another fujoshi (your post about people complaining about rape... @Anonymous

    I'm sorry, i see more than enough posts complaining about the plot (like the one a bit below this post), but it happens that most of them are from "anonymous".
    what? I never complained about rape itself, now it's YOU putting words in my mouth and making stuff up out of "thin air". I was just saying that ppl should stop dissing on the manga because there is rape in it...
    You must have a lot of time, huh, to create multiple accounts and write a bunch of paragraphs. What did this manga ever do to you, lol.

    nilsuki May 11, 2020 9:23 am
    It doesn't change the fact that it's poorly written. @Anonymous

    Thats a matter of personal preference (as in you can pay attention or not) i dont think its a masterpiece either but i mean ill still read it. İm no expert in judging whats well written or not so, im not the person the discuss about that

    nilsuki May 11, 2020 9:27 am
    Author wanted to write something psychological but failed. They wanted something dark... It's moot of they succeeded or not. For me, not really. And the endless rapes especially in side stories are mostly for p... @Anonymous

    hmm i wouldnt know about “unnecessary.” İ just like plots that challenge the status quo in a radical way. Sure it sucks ass and is badly written, but those elements are still present. Anıther thing is, I did start reading this a long time ago and would at least want to see it concluded

    Anonymous May 11, 2020 3:25 pm
    I'm sorry, i see more than enough posts complaining about the plot (like the one a bit below this post), but it happens that most of them are from "anonymous". what? I never complained about rape itself, now it... Megaz

    Yup I created every account in different year. I'm genius.
    You said people complain about rape... And people don't complain about rape but how it's used and how unrealistically it doesn't have any impact on victims.

    Anonymous May 11, 2020 3:36 pm
    hmm i wouldnt know about “unnecessary.” İ just like plots that challenge the status quo in a radical way. Sure it sucks ass and is badly written, but those elements are still present. Anıther thing is, I ... nilsuki

    This story have some interesting points although a big part imo was wasted and badly written. But there are some pros about this title.
    Yeah I also want to see how it's gonna end but I don't have bigger expectations at this point.

nilsuki April 21, 2020 7:53 pm

at this point idc bruh i rly should have waited till it was complete. İ kept thinking “okay realistically how wıuld this play out. Think realistically. Be realistic” AND HECK NONE OF THİS MAKES SENSE HAESOO YOUR RESOLVE BETTER BE STRONG OR ELSE WE GONNA GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE. Also taku, tf? İm rooting for you but??1??1 GİVE HİM SOME TİME? Akckksfs

nilsuki April 17, 2020 9:05 am

Personally İ want taku to date ME so like, hehe. But tbh, i just, jowoon kinda took his sweet time to,,, idk start caring for heasoo? Well okay i know he cared about him this whole time. But now that hes slipping through your fingers, NOW you wanna be affectionate? İts kind of a,,, idk ive always hated this “im doing to protect him” kind of mindset, like do you really think thats gonna make things better? Right now im rooting for Taku because he brought fresh air to the whole situation, Jowoon is the one losing his composure despite it being his decisions that brought him here, Haesoo was swept along and got used to things being that way, so depending on someone else after all this time is making him sad and anxious, its unknown territory. Despite all this, i really think if Jowoon hadnt triggered this chain reaction by saying “dont fall for me” and “ i wont fall for you” with the mindset of “i wanna protect you from this sadness” things would have turned out better. İt couldve remained a secret from their parents (unless haesoo rly wanted to be sincere with his mom but after lying so much why bother at this point) and after the remarriage its not like their parents are going to live for that long.

İt also makes me think of how haesoo longed for a secure future, and all this vagueness with jowoon stressed him out and made him have trust issues with taku. But now that Taku is pffering this security to him, he might be more appealing to haesoo idk.

İn the end, im actually glad they were sincere with the phonecall between haesoo and jowoon. İ really do want them both to be happy or at least content with eachothers company as brothers. But as Taku said, two people, no matter how in love, are still two different individuals. İts time to find their own persons now, and move on from this unstable relationship

    Sanky April 17, 2020 9:46 am

    I do think until know we don't know what H mind: he is little confused : why he cried in the end of the call even he know is the right things to do ?. For me the call is not the true feeling of both of them. J was always like this, is not call of affections what he said to him on the phone, is more like he want H stay way of Taku. But I still think the latest words of J was sincere, he can always count on him

    Sanky April 17, 2020 9:56 am

    I don't finish my idea: " he can always count on him no matter what is our relationship ". Why we see the evil in him, when we know him just by the H side story. For make it clear I hope also, he is going to finish with Taku, the relationship is more healthy ( I really hope he is sincere). I hate the fact that J left back side while he was also one of the mc. I want the 3nd season J side story

    Anonymous April 17, 2020 10:24 am

    But now that hes slipping through your fingers, NOW you wanna be affectionate? What u mean? Joowon has always been affectionate towards Haesoo. It's just that their dynamic that is shifting.
    After their "break up" in the hotel room, Jowoon respected Haesoo's decision to put a distance between them, he didn't even call him, he just started losing his cool after being PROVOKED by Leo. He's not being affectionate out if nowhere, He's worry that the most important person in his life is being played by Taku. Since Haesoo just admitted he "likes" him.
    (Kinda spoilerish)
    I think you should worry more about Haesoo's situation right now. His emotion is legit unstable but Taku is overwhelming him when Haesoo clearly asked for time to heal.

    Sanky April 17, 2020 11:05 am

    He does care about H but in his way. When Leo call him, and talk about H : he said " don't talk about Haesoo with that dirty of yours" and and after the article about H modeling for T : if you do I kill you. He have nothing to gain by telling this. During the confrontation between J and T : " don't dare to put a scratch on him".Even T tells to H that J was in love. People may hate him because his arrogance and possessievness who hurt like hell H. But still care about H. I reread some chapter it's look that T want take J place to H heart by not being kind but by being mean to H and want push H out of J life (even being his brother?). It's looks like he took the same road as J.He developed same character as J : arrogance ( he want win over J ) and possessievness toward H, the only difference, he is going to be with H unlike what happens between H and J.

    Anonymous April 17, 2020 11:52 am

    I don't rly agree. Like I agree with some do your points...but Joowon was the one in their relationship who was actually affectionate. He was the one who called Haesoo, visited him, who told him how much he missed him, who hugged him, was worried about him etc. Haesoo was the one who was rather reserved and kept his feelings mostly under control, pretending indifference.

    MsCarat April 17, 2020 7:17 pm
    I don't rly agree. Like I agree with some do your points...but Joowon was the one in their relationship who was actually affectionate. He was the one who called Haesoo, visited him, who told him how much he mis... @Anonymous

    They arent in a relationship thou. Haesoo doesnt owe him anything. They were never a proper couple. Joowon chose to do those things. Joowon was the one who told Haesoo not to fall for him.

    nilsuki April 18, 2020 4:38 am
    But now that hes slipping through your fingers, NOW you wanna be affectionate? What u mean? Joowon has always been affectionate towards Haesoo. It's just that their dynamic that is shifting.After their "break u... @Anonymous

    No no no i did say that ik what you mean, and all ill say is that taku is cornering him and i concluded my piece by saying they need time to find their own person. İm not rly gonna defend jowoon here since i looked at him as objectively as i could but im still biased since i dislike people like him and i wouldnt stand him in that situation so youre still free to interpret the story your own way.

    nilsuki April 18, 2020 4:40 am
    I don't rly agree. Like I agree with some do your points...but Joowon was the one in their relationship who was actually affectionate. He was the one who called Haesoo, visited him, who told him how much he mis... @Anonymous

    Thats cuz he made haesoo believe that he was toying with him and there was no serious thing going on. İts more about the impression he made on haesoo than his actual intentions, and youre right about the “jowoon seeking haesoo out” part, but haesoo said so himself, he doesnt have the right to complain, so even if jowoon did something he cant really go and act selfish (the good kind where you give worth to yourself) and jowoon brought that upon himself. He is affectionate but haesoo doesnt see it that way

nilsuki April 13, 2020 10:27 am

İ wish the curse one had its own series cuz that looked GOOD

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