I just read till ch.22 and Fukami says he can't fall in love, he feels unconfrotable in the normal kind of romantic relationship, but he does have an high sexual drive.
I am aro ace, so both asexual and aromantic, and i totally undertsand what he says about being unconfortable in a relationship... but i guess this story will develop as in: i just never found true love, kind of thing, which is sad for us real aromantic. but hey, i m reading a pay gorn so what can i expect. still pretty nice as a story. i just felt like saying it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
there is some plot in this sex...
oh wait.. i think the plot is sex at this point...
And that's okay. Don't like it drop the comic. This isn't constructive criticism
so, i started this long ago, but the first 10 chapters were disgusting so i left it. today i was like.. lets give it a go again.
so...
furst of all,.,... I FRICKING LOVE THE BLODIE WITH THE KID AND YA KNOW that couple is my fav. they are so cute and they are the reason i kept reading. mc is annoying sorry.
Also, what happened to the 3 tops of the main couple? the first chapèters were all about sex and grape. and now that they know they are gonna be dads, they seem like TAEJU from low tide in the twilight? super caring? wtf happened.
i dont like the whole drug dealing thing, i would have prefered a manhwa in which uke was take in prison for a misunderstanding kind of trope. i know it would have been less strong as a story, but i just feel like noone here is a real good like ya know? i sympatize with everyone cause ofc the story makes me do so... but in real life these are all pieces of shit. the guards too.. corrupted to heart. but here i am like. omg cutieeees. like taseo and alejandro, are super cute.... but if i rationally think about what they are i m like... wait a minute...
anyway, i want more of the blondie with the kid, i wanted to cry with him when he said he misses his child and the babys dad....
but seeing some comments here i think i m the only one not invested in the main couple. like yes i want to know whos the father and who uke will choose. but if it takes so long i prefer focusing on someone else worthier
OMG YESSSSS, my hopes where given innnn.
i was afraid it would be the cliche of the big guy wanting to top and grape the sunbae . BUT NOOOO the SUNBAE would have LET HIM TOP????? omg so open mindedddd, he just wants sexxx,I AM SO PROUD OF THIS
(lets forget that he just left, but what i mean is that i liked that he didnt force it on him to bottom, and that he wasnt thinking things like, i m less manly for bottoming ya know)
4 months... 4... 4 WHAT? u bullshitting me? YOU DONT BECOME A 6 PACK FULL TRAINED BODY WITHOUT STRETCHMARKS EVERYWHERE IN 4 MONTHS
ok, he went under a full training and strick diet. so probably a professional thing can make it work, but he was literally big... he wasnt chubby... and no strecthmarks?
i know everybody looks and works different, but loosing weight too fast or gaining weight too fast the skin kind of breaks. he was chubby all his life, and now he suddenly went bulky . idk man... i know it is fiction but i wanted something more...
also... i can already see him trying to top while putting sunbae on botttom and forcing it...
i dont like it. i would just hope they talk it out. he has a facecard to die for, maybe sunbae will think about it. or talk about it idk, i dont want them to force on themselves
Girl math
what was the point of making the beta becoming an omega at the end? like i m really confused..
USually authors make these things of abnormal changes because they want to make them pregnant or having struggles with pheromones... but here it was for nothign? literally the last page of a story, Oh you are an omega now, good luck... cant you let me have my alpha x beta story without having to go through this???
Notice how in this manhwa the chubby character that masturbate and stalkered the ml is the main character right? so we all say, oww cutie, you can do itt ecc.
But when in other yaoi there is a chubby character, he usually is a disgusting stalker that masturbates, and wants to rape the main couple.
So basically what i want to say, is how different perspectives are, and how we view something just based on if he is the mc. Like when there is an ex in a story, and we hate him, then we have their own story and we found out the ex also strugglked and is a cutie.
The same when they do the "ugly" be bad and disgusting, but we have "ugly" mcs as well and they become cute
I also like to see the side of the "bad" characters, they are usually my favorites cuz they have nuances, not just "good" or "bad"
totally, i agree
I was literally about to say the same thing!!! under no circumstances is this shit okay or "cute", but the story is feeding it like it is.
Yeah, but in this one is like ok to be ugly you find love, but the side character who was fat still become thinner
this looks nice. But poeple that say, please dont loose weight... you want him to die of an early age? he is clearly overweight. The method and words sunbae sed are not sweet and ofc he has ulterior motives, but he is not chubby. he is overweight. And as much as i support body positivity, i dont support unhealty ones. Tbh i dont want him to become a six pack guy. i would just like him to loose some weight. BUT ofc this is a yaoi, and he will become a model so that the sex looks better. But i liked a chubby cutie. ALSO i want that he looses weight in plausible time. not that in 1 year he comes a six pack... it doesnt work like that.. i mean i m not an expert but that definitely too extreme since he was clearly big
I 2nd that. Despite how rude it may sound to others-- Obesity is a chronic disease, not a lifestyle choice. And it will only lead to further health complications if an obese individual can't find the help to properly manage this progressive health issue... Doesn't mean a person has have these insane social media's body standards!
Has to have*
Yea true, ofc as cute as he is just rn it is unhealthy the weight he’s at and portraying his eating habits and diet. But like u said and a lot of others have agreed it’d be better if he’s still just chubby and doesn’t lose ALLL the weight and is still a little big. I would love that (▰˘◡˘▰) but we know how the generic works…sigh
yep. like it s totally ok to not be skinny, or as society portrays, but i think health is important. and that's a fact
totallyyyyy (づ￣ ³￣)づ
plus, when you lose weight, you tend to feel better about yourself, which is something that the ml really needs rn
i know this story since years but never tried reading it cause people commented that kang haseul didn't really like him, so it got bitter for me.
Finally 2 days ago i started it because i felt like i waited enough and i wanted to try it myself. Im so glad i read it cause i love this. i'm glad i waited since now they are really in love and everything (which i had to wait 150 chapters... but ok) still super nice. I love the traumas portrayed and relationships.
BUT
I have some complaints:
SPOILER
1) lots of the earlier chapters are about the blond girl. like... ok nice, but tbh i didn't care less for her at first... like i thought a part of the story like that would have been good later?.. you know first you explain the main character and then in case the sides. I liked that thanks to her we see the traumas of the others, and development, but idk, i just think she had too much screen time? (both the bullying and the skirt.. like, just one of the 2 problems was enough), but this is my personal opinion. i like her, just thought she was too much about her
2) the mc was most probably raped in middle school.. if not that, molested with naked pictures and stuff.... so... HOW can u be ok with physical intimate touch... like he has the whole trauma about the bullying, but when it comes to that part, it seems that scene disappears... idk, if i was molested to that point... i would be strange to kiss deeply someone and think of them in the bed? idk if you know what i mean. it's just like... i would have liked a scene in which you could see he was a bit scared, and then thanks to her he understands that she is his safe place, that she wouldn't make fun of his body, or idk. Not him just thinking, omg these things only in marriage... like cute... but not the reaction i thought.
3) also the fact that he is seen as a woman... when others do, they are monsters, bad people.. when thought, kang haseol did in the literal first chapter... no-one bats an eye.... But when others??? society ... SOCIETYYYY
If you read till this point thank you, and feel free to comment, like maybe i just have a dramatic vision for things. let me know you opinions
I think the difference between haesol and the others is that the others essentially mocked him and ridiculed him for it despite being aware of his actual gender and overall had malicious intent, however haesol didn’t have any bad intent when she thought he was a girl, she was genuinely asking and didn’t know at all. That’s my personal opinion- I think it’s a difference in intent
I was actually pretty excited about that. Guess I got tired of the typical boy meets girl story and they like each other. I'm curious as to how the story will develop if Haesol didn't actually like Yeonwoo. Will Yeonwoo continue to love Haesol even if Haesol doesn't love him back? Or worse, Haesol fell in love with someone else and Yeonwoo gets his heart broken. Or will Yeonwoo break up with Haesol after he realize she didn't love him and get his heart broken anyway? Honestly, there are so many interesting scenerios that I was looking forward to. Needless to say, I was caught by surprise. Luckily, it did not dissappoint.
Yeonwoo breaking up with Haesol felt so real and so deep. He loves her so much. But no matter how much he loves her, she will never love him back. So there is only one thing left to do. He needs to break up with her. Even though he still loves her. Even though it will utterly break his heart, he knows that it's for the best. Remaining in the relationship will only hurt the both of them even more. Which is why he made the decision to break up with her. To stop loving her even though his heart ache at the thought of casting his feelings aside.
But then, she kiss him. Even though she doesn't love him. Even though he's already steel himself to not love her any more. The tears that he endure and the sorrow he felt, nothing compare to the pain that that kiss alone brought. That kiss made him realize just how hopelessly in love he was with her. But then he is reminded again that no matter how much he loves her, she will never love him back. No matter how much he pour his heart to her, she will never accept his feelings.
So why kiss him? Why give him hope when there is none to begin with? Is the person he love truly this cruel? A person who will simply string him along until god knows when and cast him aside when she finds someone who she truly loves? If that is the case then why did he fell in love with her? Why did he fall for someone so cruel? That kiss wasn't just an insult. It was a curse. It made Yeonwoo regret loving Haesol. It made him hate Haesol. It made him hate himself for loving Haesol. If the type of person he falls in love with is truly this cruel, he might never be able to fall in love again.
But then, Haesol embrace Yeonwoo and cried when Yeonwoo told her he hated her. Even if everyone else doesn't love her, even if the entire world hated her, Yeonwoo alone is not allow to hate her. For Yeonwoo alone is the only one she can't bear to be hated by. Cause Yeonwoo is the only one she truly loves. She only realize this when she saw Yeonwoo's love turns to hate before her very eyes. That is when Yeonwoo realize that the kiss wasn't a curse. It is a kiss to break the curse.
No, i feel like ur wrong with him being okay with touch because just because just because you have trauma doesn't mean that you think about it or are triggered by it all the time like think about it this way, just because you have one or a few bad experiences at ur favorite restaurant but every other time was great you're not going to never go to that restaurant again, you just blame it on the chef cooking that day and you could say the same thing for sex...kinda its oversimplified but I can understand where you are coming from tho as a person who hasn't experienced any sexual trauma, its complex and not as debilitating as media often portrays it but also it does depend on the person
true, but some others didnt mock hiim, and he seemed a bit pissed. but yeah you are right, she had the most normal reaction
yep i think the same. that part was beautifully portrayed, their real confession ecc. i felt it so hard, and it was so real for that
i'm sorry to break it to you, but i spoke because I experienced a sexual trauma... and because of that i feel repulsed by intimate physical touch. i dont really want to talk about it, but... it's not like movies.. yeah... from a point it is even worse...
And i know everyone is not the same... but your exemple is too plain... you know right that being graped and going to a restaurant you dont like it s not the same right?
if you eat a cake you dont like, and next time someone offers you a cake, you might be "traumatized" by the taste, and not wanna taste it, but you might wanna try it and find out you like it, it was just that time that it was bad. because it wasn't to the point your psyche got destroyed...
BUT that depends from the gravity of the trauma...
one year of SA and severe bullying, where he literally panics every now and then by just nominating the middle school years... makes me think that it was pretty much a BAD SEVERE TRAUMA
So, i'm not saying he needs to be repulsed by physical touch at all... but you know, i expected at least one thinking about that...
everything else in this manhwa was portrayed perfectly, so i dont like that now the power of love makes it go away by blinking an eye
?? I obviously spoke also from a place of also being sexually assaulted multiple times and im the opposite, i have no problem with intimacy with other people and it traumatized me yes but not in a way that it effected my sexual intimacy, I know it's oversimplified but that's how I view my assault i will not allow those people to have such power over me that i deny myself from extreme pleasure moments because of why? These people had the nerve to me when I explicitly told them no?? Fuck no I won't let them have the power so yea thats how it is for me yes Im sorry you have experienced it in a way that its debilitating you. Im sorry who whoever did that to you should have never did that and I hope they suffer in the deepest pits of hell, because yes it's not easy at all after something like that happens and it does affect you but sexual trauma is SO different then other trauma. Idk how else to explain it but more complex your body literally got violated in the worse way, it's intrusive. But thats what makes the brain act weirdly because depending on the person and yes how servere it was you act differently but I know myself and i know other people(people who are very close to me) who have experience extreme and I mean extreme assault and it does not effect their intimacy with other people, it makes them the opposite [hypersexual] and thats the route that I and the other people I know went down, so yes I feel like it should have been portrayed more but not necessarily in a disgusted way tho because it's not the case for everyone's trauma
thanks for explaining it from your pov. that's how you cope with it, and you have a strong mentality. i'm glad for you it turned out for the better.
but yeah, for this manhwa and this weak character, i just hoped for something stronger too. just that
ok i m totally here just for the animals/variants. they are too cute.
it totally broke me when seme said: i m not 10 y.o. if u want to have a walk with me it s obviously sex.............................................................................
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........................................ This is the sound of my heart after hearing this bullshit