I think the artist should put the comic on hiatus or spread out the releases and focus on improving their art. Now hear me out. The reason I say this is because a lot of the artists I have encountered online are hobbyists, and pursuing webcomics seem to be on the rise. Many saw how popular webcomics are and are jumping to get in on the action. Webcomics tend to be weekly, so that means less effort on the art in order to submit work before the deadline. There's little time to go back and correct any issues because aside from the actual drawing, the artist needs to consider the story plot points, panel flow, appropriate angles and framing, and more. In addition to this, many artists started off by incorporating the anime style, so there's not much foundation. By foundation, I mean, learning the anatomy of the face and body, studying color theory in order to choose the right colors for mood, time of day, etc. Bascially, studying from life or references and drawing from them. Now this does not mean tracing.
I did compare the first and latest chapter, and there is improvement, but the characters fail to appeal to me as a reader. The major improvement I noticed was actually environment! They are drawn pretty well. However, the characters still look... wrong, for a lack of a better word. It still spells "amateur."
I do find it quite admirable that this artist draws a lot. Comics take time to create. In their Patreon, apparently the comic updates almost daily? But just based on this information, it kind of proves my point that there's so little time in between chapters to focus on the essentials of art. The artist's goal seems to be churning out a lot of chapters. My advice is that if the artist is serious about art, then they need to take a break and practice the foundations. And THEN from those foundations, you can start to stylize to your liking. A lot of cartoonists started off drawing realistic. For example, Rebecca Sugar, who is the creator of "Steven Universe" has done realistic figure drawings ( https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTU_ZWPUYAArRJ3.jpg) So different from the her cartoon style. But starting from anime and staying anime is not the way to go.
I really enjoyed reading this series, but I was wondering if this was just me. I was actually a bit shocked when I saw what Andou did to Oguma. I know the former did what he did out of retaliation because the latter was going to rape Kishiwada, but anally raping Oguma with a traffic cone was a bit overboard. My personal belief is that no one deserves to be raped. Granted, I have seen worse stuff like that terrible YOI doujin with the toilet cover. I just wanted to point it out since the manga was pretty lighthearted and full of smexiness yet that one scene was a high contrast, in my opinion. Other than that, the manga was really good and quite unique.
Honestly I thought the same thing I even looked like 5 times to make sure what I was seeing was what I was actually seeing. And I didn’t like it at all. So no it wasn’t just you because you’re right no one deserves that. They’re wrong for their intentions of raping but I think there’s another way around it then doing what Anduo did. So I totally agree with you 100%
Despite being explicitly drawn i think that wasnt necessarily the case since oguma would have suffered from serious injury and that would send ando to jail. I think the author just tried to emphasize in a comical manner that ando beat the living shit out of oguma.
Yeah, I think you are right. The artist could have done it a different way though. Oguma was hanging in the air with the traffic cone still in his butt hole, and those cones have some weight to them. Not too heavy, but heavy enough that it should have fallen down by then. Seeing that it was still there makes me believe it was down there pretty deep. I think that in itself is a bit unrealistic since those cones have some girth to them, but the thought is pretty scary. If the manga did treat the issue seriously, Andou definitely would have gone to jail if it was found out. ^^;
Honestly,that's what a rapist deserves.Don't really feel any sympathy for Oguma.It's an eye for an eye.He knew he was in the wrong but he still was about to take advantage of Kishidawa anyway.
I mean, that's true. But I don't think raping another because they raped someone else makes the former a better person.
I might get some hate for this but let's be real. That was clearly intended to be light and funny. When the author had to write scenes where there wasn't consent she made that clear. That one frame was just supposed to be a gag like you see in many shounen manga. Putting things up the butt is usually comic relief and not because of the rape, but because it's funny, like farts. I'm 99.999999% sure that's all it was and that there's being way too much read into this
That may be the intent, but it came out a bit wrong in my opinion. There's always better ways to convey something, and that was not one of them. Why the author chose that as comedic effect, I'm not sure. Even if it is fiction, one always has to be mindful of what message is being sent.
Just to add to this, the manga seems like it's still ongoing. I do not know if the author addresses the aftermath of Oguma's butthole, but I'd be surprise if he came out with light injuries. People can suffer internal damage through the anus, which is why I didn't actually laugh in that panel. I don't think ill of the author. I just think they could gone about it differently. Beating him up to a bloody pulp would have seemed a bit better, considering how much fighting went on in this series.
Agreed.. that one scene was dark in contrast to what you said about the manga being light and funny.
People have said it numerous times already, but the comment section is getting way too toxic. I have to say that both the translator and reader sides are in the wrong though.
One thing I have noticed from seeing arguments about copyright is that many readers are treating Mangago as if it's their whole world. They depend on it to discover new comics and are unwilling to branch out and search on their own. "It's thanks to Mangago uploading this comic that I knew it existed!" I feel like this primary feeling is why a lot of readers are defending the fact that this manhua was uploaded on here. And also the fact that a lot of users might also be lazy. Yes, Mangago is convenient because it hosts a lot of comics. It requires more "work" to look up a group's website to read an individual comic on their own reader or to download it. I'm sure a lot of us has a point in time when we have a huge number of tabs open that are just comics.
As illegal readers who are basically just free-loading off of others' work, we should at least change our habits little by little to phase out of Mangago. Translators are making a risk, yes, by putting an author's work illegally on the Internet. I mean, who doesn't want to discuss about new comics and anime? I heard so many readers complaining about there being no updates for the day, etc. Translators are readers too, and they love discussing with others about developments and whatnot. I'm not saying that what all of us are doing are morally right. But some users make it sound like that translators are mostly the ones in the wrong.
As for the translators, I understand your plight. I have heard many stories from other groups. It can be scary to get a warning letter from a publisher. Some readers might not be able to understand what a group goes through. However, from the comments I've been seeing on your side, your attitude will not help your case. Even if you are angered by some readers, it does not give a good impression for the group as a whole if your comments are worded the way they are.
P.S. For those who want to discover newly translated comics, go to Baka-Updates Manga. You'll find a lot of comics that are not uploaded on Mangago (since it's mostly Yaoi-oriented...) You can also follow your favorite comics, and an icon will show next to its name when it shows up on the front page. The names are updated mostly in real time, and group sites are also listed if one is available.
I love how rational and neutral your comment is. It's quite well thought out , and not getting defensive at all !
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I agree with your point of view. I recognize scanlation groups as noble people and I admire their voluntary effort for our sake. I believe they, and we as a community, should unite in educating readers and scanlators equally in these matters as they concern us both, no need to get beligerent or start calling readers parasites. I wasn't aware of this situation, I can look for other sites if someone would kindly communicate with me ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
It would be effing funny if Araki tries to get the Chief to help him get together with Kyujo, but ends up helping the Chief and Kyujo instead.
I just smashed the like button. Now I have a new ship. Thanks to you. OMG I'm so getting my hopes up now.
Snow Flower Scans translated this before, but Mr.Blue told them to take it down along with CBAW. So... Does the new scan team want the same trouble?
EDIT: Yup, no one cares about the artist or the warnings that came with CBAW because it would get in the way with people reading this comic for free. Whooo. Dislikes. Y'all dislike what I typed because it's true.
EDIT2: Just to add to this, a lot of Japanese artists remain silent in regards to piracy. Why? Because they can't do anything about it. Copyright laws in Japan aren't the same overseas.
Please read about this little comic from a mangaka about illegal distribution.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-01-10/uramichi-oniisan-manga-explains-problems-of-illegal-distribution-sites/.126173
When a company outright makes an email to tell you to stop, shouldn't you stop? They gave warnings specifically to Snow Flower Scans, but it applies to EVERYONE. But of course, many of you guys don't care. I'm mostly talking about those who know of the drama surrounding CBAW.
wow...well, I'm not surprised that you got disliked.
I wonder the same thing because there was a lot of drama going on with SFS.
ikr why can't they take warning seriously...
those mofo never respecting people
Do you by chance know the new scans group link? Or are they a private group too? (Cry For Me Scans)
They really don't want to take warning serious. What you are saying is true I agree with you
I really don't know why this type of comments get so much dislikes, seriously. It's just a warning with good intentions. Of course we all want to read these comics that's why we're all here on magago, but come on, there are some things that we all have to be aware of.
people disliking when it’s just an honest warning shows how immature most of the users on mangago are. you can’t just ignore everything and cover your ears when people voice facts. this new scanlation team will eventually be forced to take this down whether you like it or not and all the work they put in will be a waste since this company can take it further legally if their emails are ignored. so a warning for the team to avoid wasting their efforts shouldn’t be shut down just because you selfishly want to read for free not caring what happens to the scanlation team. it’s very disrespectful. please mangago. put yourselves in their shoes
Possibly stupid question. Is there a place to read this in english legally then? Or has it been published in english??
No, not yet. Only CBAW is officially translated in English on Tappytoon due to its popularity. But this one might if there was more demand for it.
I like the portrayal of Tomomi's character. Unlike in many yaoi comics that I have read, she doesn't "fangirl" but rather treats a homosexual relationship like any other heterosexual relationship.
I appreciate the upload today, but Salty Potatoes Trans was working on both chapters 3 and 4. This series was not dropped yet by the group, but someone else took over them and translated those two chapters. It is a bit rude to just assume and not ask, but the original scanlators must have felt like they wasted their time.
Here's the notice from the translators: https://saltypotatoestrans.tumblr.com/post/169500633710/when-you-see-ai-to-makoto-ch-4-in-mangago-its
i know thats just disrespectful like i know ur a new group but your not going to make friends that way
Am I the only one bothered by Han Tae Yi's floating earphone cords? Lol.
I feel super sure now that the artist used Inuyasha as inspiration because not only does the cat dude looks like Inuyasha, but the first shirt he wears is red. Not that I mind. It's like a parallel universe except he gay. Lol.
BL Inuyasha?????? IM IN <3