We must protect this cinnamon roll! He's too cute! When has the word "dick" been this cute?!
I have something against hedonist characters. I hate them... I love this story but it makes me cry so much because I'm here ripping my hair out, trying to truly NOT HATE Heejae but also hating him and suspecting him of later hurting my cinnamon roll~~~~~~ (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I'm a boring person. I enjoy twisted stories and 3ps but at this point, I really just want my cinnamon roll to be happy and safe in a monogamous relationship. Should I not keep my hopes up for that ending?
I have trouble liking Heejae too. I don't mind hedonists, I have other issues with him! I think for me, it's more that I find it hard to like characters who get off on controlling others and see them as toys. Not the BDSM aspect, more the... personality aspect. His overall spoiled-rich-brat-gets-whatever-he-wants attitude towards others (but especially Jisuh!)
Yes yes yes. His personality that goes "everything is boring so I want a challenge" is what ticks me off! Hopefully, Jisuh also changes a bit so that Heejae learns to change as well.
Am I the only one who is shipping the main guy and his sugar daddy? I feel terrible but I can't help but ship them.
Sunbae is a "better" human but he doesn't suit Kyunghee. Honestly, I don't think they would be any happier as a couple than Kyunghee x Sugar daddy.
I don't know... Do I sound insane? (well... wouldn't be the first time lol)
Glad I'm not the only one who ships them together! ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I actually ship them too, I completely agree with the sugar daddy just fitting the mc's personality better ... I just hope some changes are made to how we decides to pursue the mc
well I feel the same
Well Although I don't agree with you guys I guess I can't understand where you're coming from but keep in mind that the sugar daddy is not only insane but is using the uke's mom and blackmailing him, In which, the uke decided to retaliate in the best way he found possible.
The only reason i ship them is because both are assholes XD
Yeah that’s why I said it’s be better if the sugar daddy changed his ways (as in stop what he’s doing to the mc) but their personalities mash the best and the uke doesn’t love the other guy and I don’t think he will so I do believe the sugar daddy and the mc to be the better couple (only bc their personalities match)
I don't really think their personalities match, the sugar daddy won't change his ways, and if he did he would only be pretending, it wouldn't last long plus the uke seems to have feelings for the other guy although it might not be pure he still has some.
I feels like only the sugar daddy makes the uke's heart race
Same... they’re like meant for each other if that’s the case. The only reason I don’t ship Jisuk with Kyunghee is because Jisuk’s too damn innocent for Kyunghee lol
Exactly
I mean, it's fairly obvious they're supposed to be the main ship and will probably stay the focus. I wish I could ship them, too, but I keep wishing he'd grow up and treat his sunbae better instead.
Just kiss and make up! Just kiss! PLEASE! lol (≧∀≦)
No but really, don't fight~ my babies~
Ok ok ok. The fluff was too much, I almost suffocated.
But I wonder... I'm very similar to the uke. I'm not as shy as him but I am definitely insecure and I definitely related to the part of him in which he apologizes like CRAZY! I am the type of person who tends to apologize at everything - to the point people get irritated. I don't know if it's because they don't think my apologies are sincere or if they are just sick and tired of hearing them. But it feels bad to NOT apologize for something that might have been your fault. It feels weird to be ok with doing something you think was bad or your fault and not apologizing.
LOL ok, that became a rant. BUT back to my point. Because I'm similar to the uke, I was super happy when he found someone who loved him - even his insecure self - and that someone was able to change the uke's life. It makes the story so much more romantic for me and warms my heart~
I love this story so much that I've decided... I want to finish reading it in English - BUT even if it doesn't finish being translated... I've make up my own ending in my head! I'll think about my own alternative ending! LOL
THEY GET MARRIED AT THE END AND BECOME THE INFAMOUS POLICE COUPLE!
LOL just kidding (not really, that's how desperate I am （/TДT)/ ). But thank you to whoever updated the latest chapter! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
The third chapter triggered me so much... The otaku boyfriend triggered me... everything about him!!!!!!
I don't know why though... I was so angry at him. I know that sometimes people are busy or people are too wrapped in hobbies or their jobs or people just have bad communication skills (me too （/TДT)/) and it's human to NOT know what your significant other is thinking... BUT I WAS SO TRIGGERED!!!
Anyone else feel the same? Haha At least the ending was happy... I guess... Ugh~ Still, for me, a bouquet of flowers and sex would not make me a happy girl - especially if I was in his position... Sex as the problem solver in this story was too much of a cop-out solution. Ha! Yaoi-logic, though. I love it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I felt the exact same. Wanted to find the ending cute but a big part of me was thoroughly dissatisfied and wanted it resolved over more chapters. Hit too too close to home. Yuu tried so hard ):.
Seriously, setting aside gender and whatnot - "so you've primped yourself after you finally remembered about my obviously insignificant existence, storm in here with murdered flowers and expect me to what...? Lemme show you the door real quick."
Triggered? That was the final countdown for nuclear annihilation. My lover can have the most obscure interest, if he/she introduces me to his/her latest obsession I'm able to at least have a taste and decide if it excites me, too (9 out of 10 it does, because I'm so damn curious and excitable). Treat me like decoration and you're out. OUT!
Agree
Am I the only one who feels bad for Jiwook? I know that he did bad and stupid stuff. And I also know that he was someone who lead to his own brother's suicide.
BUT!!!!!!! He's a kid (YES! A KID! A TEEN!) who didn't know what to do. He loved his brother so much but wanted to have his own identity that he continued to hold back his feelings until they exploded.
Yes, sure, he was immature to automatically think that his brother would know what he was thinking. BUT who has good communication skills at that age? I definitely didn't! Maybe he felt that his brother was being stupidly oblivious to the differences of treatment they were getting. IDK...
Yes, sure, it was a dumb idea to hold a grudge towards his brother. BUT doesn't holding a grudge mean that he still wants the attention from his brother? Doesn't wanting to get a reaction from his brother still a call for attention from his brother?
YES, I know that Jiwook is a little twisted but I can't ignore his feelings and experiences. Yeah, he made a dick move. A lot of them. But even seeing that he was trying to copy Joohoon, I thought he just wanted approval from someone.
LOL, I don't know anymore. I might sound angry but I was just trying to explain my own feelings and as someone who kinda felt the inferiority towards a sibling. I know that Jiwook's back story doesn't excuse his behavior and attitude towards his real brother and to Taemin. But I don't want to ignore his story... ahaha but I totally feel the people who still hate Jiwook too.
LOL, this got too long. Thanks for everyone who read it all ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
I felt a bit bad for him - but that doesn't excuse any of the pain he caused his brother. Actually I started to wonder if he was mentally ill. If he was hallucinating.
Oh, yes! I don't excuse any of the stuff he did. He's a definite dick. lol. But I just felt so bad for him and his experiences. It's a very relatable life experience for me.
And to what you were saying, I think if he were mentally ill, Jiwook would be depressed or have low self-esteem from the environment he was in. (Or if you were referring to Siwon, he definitely was depressed, had PTSD, and was suicidal - which I DO NOT BLAME HIM FOR)
But I don't think it was an influence of mental illness that makes Jiwook a dick lol. I think it's the environment he was raised in and the causes and effects that bounce back and forth between him and the people around him. Also, it's also his personality. He was not twisted but holding in his feelings and having complex things occur at once caused the distorted image we and he has of himself.
No ships given! Come back when you're a main character Jiwook.
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I definitely like this story... sometimes I hate this story but I always come back to read it because I'm just tempted every time... ╮(￣▽￣)╭ So I conclude that I have a love-hate relationship with it~
BUT what I really need to say is that I feel like I'm getting no where with this story... there seems to be no plot apart from the game and the development of the couples and sex (which I don't really mind at all lol ლ(´ڡ`ლ)) But I do want some plot and movement of the story... especially with Karino and Azusa. THEY ONLY FIGHT AND HAVE SEX (again, i don't mind lol but i want more from them)...
Am I the only one who feels this way? Do others disagree and feel that there is more plot that I just haven't opened my eyes to? Please tell me! I feel lost every time I read this story but I can't stop reading it!!!!!!!!!!! I want to fall in love with this story even more but I just feel so lost~
I agree with you) i'd also love some charachter/relationship development. There is potential here, and author gives some hints about not-only-sexual relationships between boys, but it's not fully revealed yet. And will it or not - that's a question I hope it will, because yeah sex is good and all (and we don't mind), but it would be more interesting to see some interaction between characters))
yes yes yes! You have totally summed up what I've wanted to say! I was trying to be careful NOT to write something too triggering, especially with how others perceive this manga. But you have done it!
I want the character and relationship development in this manga to cross the line a bit more. The mangaka is GREAT about making us anxious but I really hope there is more than twisted-ness in the manga.
IT'S SO CLOSE TO A ROMANTIC-ish/ LOVE PLOT BUT SO FAR AT THE SAME TIME~
I would like to know more about Karino, and it wouldn't hurt to see something bad happen (even something small) to him too. i don't hate Karino.
lol. I get it. You don't hate Karino but want to see something happen to him so we can see him off guard or see a development in his character, right?
Yes. Also every so often I'd like to see Aszua come out ahead--just a little bit, even for a short time.
Aw thank you! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
So now will be a lot of text. And I apologise beforehand for my English, I'm not a native speaker.
I actually admire (somewhat) how Ogawa Chise manages to draw some reeeal twisted up SHIT in one stories and good deep plot in others. I just hope that this manga will end up as good as it possibly can in this kind of "universe", not in that "wow, and that's the end? well, thanks I just threw away a good portion of my time into the bin" kind of way.
*not trying to offend anyone, but it happens sometimes* So yeah.
I just think sometimes it's good to read some PWP/smut, you know, to relax maybe *to wank xDDD*, but I prefer this types of manga to be oneshots or maybe 1-2 chapters long, because, you know, PWP *duh* x) So when a story is already 14 ch long I'm kinda waiting for some good plot and character development, otherwise it'll become boring ╮(￣▽￣)╭
And about not triggering anyone, yeah, I feel you here :)
Sometimes I feel like I'm walking on a minefield trying to write my opinion on one thing or the other. But I guess it's better to not really care about someone liking your comment or not, you can't please everyone, there always will be people who will not agree with your opinion. It's just life :) Unless you're offending someone, it's ok to share your thoughts.
Because, you know, some people are not shy at all telling others "your comment is shit you don't know anything so go away" *exaggerating here a little bit* ╮(￣▽￣)╭
So yeah)
And before someone starts to throw poop at me, I will take my leave ^^
I agree with you :)
I think it will teach him a little bit to not take everything for granted. To actually see that some things can be taken away from him, that he can't always be in control of the situation.
LOL, your comment in the end killed me. And your English is fine - it's pretty good for not being a native speaker!
And AGAIN! I agree with all you said. It's hard when reading this story because I just feel like the twisted-ness of the story is just being dragged for way too long and I seem to always need to re-read the story to figure out if I missed part of a plot (but I missed nothing because there's only bullying and sex - which I don't mind ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ ... It just gets repetitive （/TДT)/ )
Ahahaha, before someone starts to throw poop at me too (and before you get annoyed with all the long comments and notifications) I'll take my leave too!~ ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I can't and won't stop reading this story but I can tell already that it will be a frustrating story. I know that this couple will fight and will not be exactly sexually (and emotionally) monogamous throughout the story... but I want them to be happy.
*sigh* really, I already love this frustrating story. Anyone feel me?